jtstanley4621 said:

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Ragoo said:

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jtstanley4621 said:

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cbr said:

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daggertx said:

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This show is becoming the Last Jedi bad....

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No way, even 4 was nowhere near that bad.

I just am of the opinion that anyone hating her burning everything is just failing to understamd the entire point of the whole show.

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At least for me personally, I'm upset about WHY she did it, not that she actually did it. do not think that they did a good job establishing her going down this path. Yes, they beat us over the head with her losing her inner circle (Jorah, Missandei, Jon telling Sansa, etc.) but I don't feel like that is the type of subtle, slow build that we have come to know from Game of Thrones. The writing is not as tightly packed and subtle as it once was.

Being upset with how it went down doesn't mean that you misunderstand the entire point of the series.

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why do you think she did it? I personally believe she never once intended on taking Kong's landing in one piece. I don't think she is mad either. I think she understands that she needed to completely destroy cersi and her "subjects".

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She showed restraint even after they killed Rhaegal while she was on the way to King's Landing. She said she did not intend to be the Queen of Ashes.

As for the why part: Essentially, the writers are banking on you believing that Mellisande was the final straw. Which I think is fine, but to me felt very rushed and as a result, the mass genocide was something that seemed to jump the shark a bit too much.

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bangobango said:

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bobinator said:

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I don't mind so much what they've done with Tyrion. He continually suggests paths that seem 'right,' and then he's wrong for various reasons.

He's like the oppo-Littlefinger. He continually underestimates how extreme people will be and tends to assume everyone else will think logically.

His suggestions always have perfectly well thought out logic, and because of that they often end up wrong.

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Yeah I don't disagree with that now, but I feel like that wasn't the guy he was in the first 3 or 4 seasons. My gripe isn't so much just with Season 8 Tyrion as it is the overall arc of his character from where he started.

Season 3 Tyrion would have never dreamed of trusting Cersei or underestimated her ruthlessness. Didn't make sense to me for his character to regress like that over time.

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Tyrion murdered his dad with a crossbow while he was on the ****ter and strangled the love of his life to death. Yeah, they've destroyed his character.

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Tarponfly said:

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My problem with the final season of the show is that it does not match the slow and deliberate build-up of the first eight seasons. For years we have been listening to people tell us "Winter is coming." Then winter comes and the Army of the Dead is wiped out in half an episode. Next two episode, half the characters die and Dany goes full-on ape **** and destroys an entire city. Sure, I get the hints at her being a "mad queen" leading up to this season. However, the leap from feeling like she might lose standing with Jon Snow being outed as the rightful heir to the Iron Throne to homicidal maniac in one episode seems a bit extreme.

It seems as though the writers and cast just checked it in to move on to other projects.

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cbr said:

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Tarponfly said:

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My problem with the final season of the show is that it does not match the slow and deliberate build-up of the first eight seasons. For years we have been listening to people tell us "Winter is coming." Then winter comes and the Army of the Dead is wiped out in half an episode. Next two episode, half the characters die and Dany goes full-on ape **** and destroys an entire city. Sure, I get the hints at her being a "mad queen" leading up to this season. However, the leap from feeling like she might lose standing with Jon Snow being outed as the rightful heir to the Iron Throne to homicidal maniac in one episode seems a bit extreme.

It seems as though the writers and cast just checked it in to move on to other projects.

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I think the whole (and only) point of the night king and the end of the world is that even armageddon wont stop the wheels of the game from spinning and make people act honestly and ethically, or even appreciate each other. That is why it came and went and they didnt go 24 hours before people start backstabbing and killing again.

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smokeythebear said:

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cbr said:

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Tarponfly said:

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My problem with the final season of the show is that it does not match the slow and deliberate build-up of the first eight seasons. For years we have been listening to people tell us "Winter is coming." Then winter comes and the Army of the Dead is wiped out in half an episode. Next two episode, half the characters die and Dany goes full-on ape **** and destroys an entire city. Sure, I get the hints at her being a "mad queen" leading up to this season. However, the leap from feeling like she might lose standing with Jon Snow being outed as the rightful heir to the Iron Throne to homicidal maniac in one episode seems a bit extreme.

It seems as though the writers and cast just checked it in to move on to other projects.

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I think the whole (and only) point of the night king and the end of the world is that even armageddon wont stop the wheels of the game from spinning and make people act honestly and ethically, or even appreciate each other. That is why it came and went and they didnt go 24 hours before people start backstabbing and killing again.

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I'm still biting my tongue. There are maybe 2-3 ways they could land this plane and properly incorporate the relevancy of the Night King. Do I have any faith D&D ACTUALLY do that? No. But it is still possible.

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Shife said:

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Prediction: Bran wargs Dany and asks for teh buttsecks from Jon

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bangobango said:

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SAtxag16 said:

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bobinator said:

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I don't mind so much what they've done with Tyrion. He continually suggests paths that seem 'right,' and then he's wrong for various reasons.

He's like the oppo-Littlefinger. He continually underestimates how extreme people will be and tends to assume everyone else will think logically.

His suggestions always have perfectly well thought out logic, and because of that they often end up wrong.

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Yeah I don't disagree with that now, but I feel like that wasn't the guy he was in the first 3 or 4 seasons. My gripe isn't so much just with Season 8 Tyrion as it is the overall arc of his character from where he started.

Season 3 Tyrion would have never dreamed of trusting Cersei or underestimated her ruthlessness. Didn't make sense to me for his character to regress like that over time.

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Tyrion murdered his dad with a crossbow while he was on the ****ter and strangled the love of his life to death. Yeah, they've destroyed his character.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Her burning all of the scorpions is not the problem. The problem was the three bolts that hit Rhaegal last week.

But that's all water under the bridge.

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Furlock Bones said:

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SAtxag16 said:

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bangobango said:

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SAtxag16 said:

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bobinator said:

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I don't mind so much what they've done with Tyrion. He continually suggests paths that seem 'right,' and then he's wrong for various reasons.

He's like the oppo-Littlefinger. He continually underestimates how extreme people will be and tends to assume everyone else will think logically.

His suggestions always have perfectly well thought out logic, and because of that they often end up wrong.

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Yeah I don't disagree with that now, but I feel like that wasn't the guy he was in the first 3 or 4 seasons. My gripe isn't so much just with Season 8 Tyrion as it is the overall arc of his character from where he started.

Season 3 Tyrion would have never dreamed of trusting Cersei or underestimated her ruthlessness. Didn't make sense to me for his character to regress like that over time.

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Tyrion murdered his dad with a crossbow while he was on the ****ter and strangled the love of his life to death. Yeah, they've destroyed his character.

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Thank u!!!

My guy goes from having his sister and father sentencing him to death for a crime he didn't commit and killing his father and his lady, then convincing Daenerys to make him her Hand to just being a dummy who thinks that same sister would all of the sudden do something that benefits someone other than herself and honor her word???

C'mon man

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Varys and especially Tyrion have suffered most without GRRM source material. I think even ardent show supporters would agree with that.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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aTmAg said:

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Z said:

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google it genius


You might want to learn what a joke is... or an emoticon.....


And keep talking about my daughter whackjob. Game's on now. I'll roast your entire ****ing city to the ground - odd though nobody would have called me a homicidal maniac before. I guess that's out of character for me.

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So you are saying that your daughter predicted all along that Dany was going to go genocide on a city full of innocents, but you did not?

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I'm saying shut the **** up. Clear enough?

Can everyone please flag this *******'s every attack on the last few pages. Staff needs to take the trash out. I don't care if they take me out with him I'll take one for the team.


I'm done.

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You just pulled a Hound, sacrificing your own life to kill the Mountain.

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