HtownAg92 said:
Here's a question about theories: why is it when there is someone with an unknown background, there is always a theory that they are a Targaryen? Even sometimes there are theories of "being a Targ" for people we know exactly what their background is (e.g.Tyrion). Why must everyone be a Targ, and why would it matter if they were?
Spot on.bonfarr said:Seabreeze said:
Yep, stay away from the interwebs if you dont wana know what happens.
It's like passing a bad car wreck, you know you shouldn't look but you just can't stop yourself.
HtownAg92 said:
Here's a question about theories: why is it when there is someone with an unknown background, there is always a theory that they are a Targaryen? Even sometimes there are theories of "being a Targ" for people we know exactly what their background is (e.g.Tyrion). Why must everyone be a Targ, and why would it matter if they were?
DannyDuberstein said:
Have some faith. This picture of health has some time and books in him yet.
Has he said anything recently about wrapping up the story in 7 books? I know that was the original plan, but I just don't see how that happens with only 2 left.bangobango said:
I think he finishes at least WoW.
Reading quotes from him, I think the way they've ended this might be inspiring him to get his story out there.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think that was a Bran vision. That was simply the show showing us what happened to Craster's baby. The audience saw it live, not through Bran.Zombie Jon Snow said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Y'all lost me. How did we get on a WW baby?
It's in Bran's vision - from way back.....the NK made a WW baby out of the last of Crasters male born.
PS - some people say we are not done with the WWs because of this - we never saw the baby's fate.
Is the actor even included in the Season 8 cast? That's a rhetorical question because I don't really want a spoiler, but I sure hope they were smart enough to just invite him to the parties and not to any actual filming.bonfarr said:
So what is Robin of Arryn up to these days, any chance he shows up to save the day? Has he gotten better with a bow? These are things I want to know.
bonfarr said:
So what is Robin of Arryn up to these days, any chance he shows up to save the day? Has he gotten better with a bow? These are things I want to know.
Yes, and it was 1 of my 4,689 complaints. Didn't you read my manifesto?!gigemJTH12 said:
Was there ever an explanation for Gendry calling himself Gendry Rivers? Isn't his ******* name Waters?
gigemJTH12 said:
Was there ever an explanation for Gendry calling himself Gendry Rivers? Isn't his ******* name Waters?
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Bran wargs into Jaime in two time periods and murders Aerys and Cersei simultaneously!
smokeythebear said:Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think that was a Bran vision. That was simply the show showing us what happened to Craster's baby. The audience saw it live, not through Bran.Zombie Jon Snow said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Y'all lost me. How did we get on a WW baby?
It's in Bran's vision - from way back.....the NK made a WW baby out of the last of Crasters male born.
PS - some people say we are not done with the WWs because of this - we never saw the baby's fate.
Someone give me an ice dragon so I can tackle this wall of words!Barbarossa said:Quote:
Bran wargs into Jaime in two time periods and murders Aerys and Cersei simultaneously!
I think Bran has to play some sort of big role in the upcoming episodes, otherwise his entire story was just a plot device to have the army of the dead get south of the wall, which in turn wasn't even the biggest conflict in the show. I felt the same way during the Battle of Winterfell when Bran just kind of reboots for a while instead of having some foreseen brilliance that helps turn the tide of the battle... he gave Arya a dagger but she was already loading up on weapons that could have done the job without him. Anyway, someone's probably thought out something similar before, but if Jamie gets to the throne room I hope Bran's involvement goes something like this:
Jamie arrives at King's Landing and attempts to gain Cersei's trust to get inside the city walls. Cersei eventually gives in as she is still carrying his child and might even feel guilty for bedding the pirate while Jamie was away and taking that finger in the bum... any time they've been apart for more than two episodes they always make up somehow so I don't think that would change here. Once inside the throne room, Jamie tries to plead with her to not go through with the battle as it will surly kill most of the citizens in the city and she pulls some "this is for us and our family" speech. Jamie kind of gives up on trying to convince her otherwise and watches the ongoing battle overlooking King's Landing, still torn on what to do.
Meanwhile Bran, knowing of Jamie and Cersei's history and knowing that they would inevitably meet in King's Landing, uses this opportunity to warg into Jamie and see through his eyes into the past. Jamie feels that something is wrong but still seems in control of his body and continues to watch the chaos of battle unfold around him, Targaryens still fighting Lannisters... but now they are on opposite sides of attack. He slowly begins to realize that he's no longer witnessing the Battle for the Seven Kingdoms, but instead it's the Sack of King's Landing twenty years prior. He returns to the throne room in a surreal daze and finds the Mad King standing at the foot of the throne, furious at Tywin Lannister's recent betrayal, yelling for his alchemists to "Burn them! Burn them all!" with the stockpiled wildfire underneath the city. Jamie finds himself suddenly standing at the throne, realizes the sword weighing heavy in his hand, then lifts and buries the blade into the Mad King's back. That instant he feels the haze leave his mind and can see clearly, looking around the room sensing that there is something different... he then slowly looks down and sees Cersei at the end of his blade, blood pooling around her as her last words, "burn them all", leave her. He stumbles backward, confused and frightened, onto the Iron Throne and realizes what he's done. All the bad things he's done in his life, all done in the name of his love for Cersei, are for nothing now... After fighting his way through the city, Jon finds Jamie sitting on the throne, just as Ned did all those years before, this time having slit his own throat.
Cut-scene to Bran, having just used Jamie to save King's Landing, defeat Cersei, and justify his purpose in the show, looking back through time at various family-member wedding nights and old craftsmen catalogs.
You know, you make a point about the wheel and what would qualify as breaking the wheel. It's very possible that Dany ends up torching the Red Keep and melting it to the ground. Without that central capital and the throne, then everyone will be given their independence again. I don't know that Dany would really go for that if given the choice, but if she destroys the Red Keep and the throne and then dies, well then Jon could easily give everyone their independence and just head back up to the wall.cbr said:
Ive been thinking about how a game of thrones ends.
I mean, the obvious message from totally ignoring the existential threat to mankind and the once in 10,000 year victory means that the writers are cynics. Therefore they know the game never ends. The only way it even pauses is when one person completely dominates and exhausts all resistance, and even then it picks up again as soon as they or their heirs get old and weak, or someone else thinks they get an edge. (As in king baratheon storyline). The game has to pause because they only have 2 episodes left.
So the only way this ends is with basically everyone dead, the armies exhausted, and one person with a clear advantage.
Probably wont have dragons or wizards lurking around either. Destabilizing. Probably not a woman loner like arya or a schemer like sansa, tyrion or varys. Unsullied dont have what it takes. Hound doesnt either. No way cersi wins. No way its jamie after his absurd flip flopping. Brienne is out after her recent droop too. The euron dude is a cheap cartoon villain, he gets fried. Its obviously jon and thats obviously why he was revived. But thats pretty obvious, so the only other possibility is bronn.
HtownAg92 said:
Here's a question about theories: why is it when there is someone with an unknown background, there is always a theory that they are a Targaryen? Even sometimes there are theories of "being a Targ" for people we know exactly what their background is (e.g.Tyrion). Why must everyone be a Targ, and why would it matter if they were?
Someone may have responded to this, but they aren't all nuts. There is a reason he got the nickname "Mad King"MuckRaker96 said:WEll I'm not going to post my Dany as the Mad Queen essay 10 pages ago again,but it probably is a warning that you shouldn't put a ruthless Targ on the throne cuz they're nuts. Even more so with a dragon.bobinator said:
Yeah... it's hard to make all the pieces fit because we don't have a good feel for what exactly Bran is capable of, but I've never been able to get all the way past the fact that they had to set up and film that shot of the Mad King just for this vision. Everything else in the vision except for the Mad King scene are things that have (or look like they're about to) happen over the course of the show.
