Zombie Jon Snow said:

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aTmAg said:

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digital_ag said:

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aTmAg said:

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digital_ag said:

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bangobango said:

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By far the more hostile posts are from people defending the show.

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100%

Lots of people running interference for D&D. This thread might as well be on the politics board.

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Or, perhaps you are over generalizing. Apparently I am one of the ones "running interference for D&D" yet I have been criticizing them plenty.

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Every 3 pages we get the same post: "You guys criticizing the show are just mad that what you expected to happen didn't happen."

I made a casual observation last night about Missandei grabbing Cersei and jumping off the gate. I think you were even the person that chimed in "ackshually that couldn't have happen you people will complain about anything".

The lack of self-awareness is pretty astounding.

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Because if she was capable of doing that, Cersei wouldn't have gotten close to her in the first place. It's not that hard to understand. Cersei is not a dumbass.

At least try to make your criticisms have some merit.

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You offer no proof of that except your opinion Cersei wouldn't get that close.... but the evidence does not support that.

I think she simply lacked the will to do that - too scared or maybe frozen in fear hoping for someone to save her - and she would have likely failed but I thought she might try it as well. It's not completely out left field. she isn't a warrior of course. I think it's easy to say she should have done it though - it was certain death - I would have.

We can see in these pics that

1. her wrists are shackled but her hands are free and her arms are not bound. She could have extended her arms for sure and grabbed with her hands.
2. her feet are not bound in any manner
3. Cersei is very much closer to her (from above you can see that) then anyone else and she could thus get to Cersei I think before anyone got to her (not that she could succeed in pulling her off necessarily but she could have reached her.
4. nobody has a weapon drawn until just before the execution - the Mountain is well behind her
5. Cersei moves just a turn and one step to reach Missandei - she was very close.

Here from above you can see how close she is




Here is her wrists shackled but no other restraint - this is also the angle of the shot when Cersei turns and takes one step before grabbing her arm. She was even closer then.




Here you can see no restraints on her legs - her entire body fell after alo indicating there was nothing binding her to the platform.





^HERE - she could have fallen to the platform and grabbed the flowing dress with lots of material and pulled as she slipped over the side hoping to pull her with her for example. they wouldn't even be able to get to her before she was close to going over.

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Champ Bailey said:

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Nope. It was awesome.

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aggietony2010 said:

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bobinator said:

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There has been nothing in the shows or the books which suggests Cersei is a genocidal maniac.
She's power-hungry, but even her lust for power is based entirely around her Lannister identity. Power is simply the means to obtain prestige and security for her and her Lannister brood.

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You mean other than time she blew up a holy temple and killed everyone in it?

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She also is a bigger ***** in the books and isn't faithful to Jamie at all. Book Cersei will be dead of the pox within the year. Doesn't she also basically rape one of her handmaidens? Though that does all pale next to the whole going full Al-Qaeda on the Sept.

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cbr said:

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Tobias Funke said:

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CBR, you sound like an absolutely nightmare to watch these episodes with.

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Lol, I don't talk during them, I just chimed in because people were ragging on anyone pointing out that this one was a letdown.

I think I'll go rewatch the missandre nude scenes in honor of her passing now.

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bangobango said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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bobinator said:

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This zapruder film breakdown of whether she could have grabbed Cersei is kind of weird to me.

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I think it's just weird to say it is impossible.

It's obviously possible. But

1. they didn't write it that way so the possibility was really irrelevant
2. she isn't a fighter so it was unlikely for her character i suppose

but not impossible.

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I don't have a problem with that b/c most people do not do heroic, suicidal acts when faced with a situation like that. I mean, think of all the mass shootings, I think it is being a little too harsh to say that was a stupid scene b/c she could have committed suicide by grabbing Cersei and jumping. Not many people would have that courage to do something like that.

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bangobango said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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bobinator said:

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This zapruder film breakdown of whether she could have grabbed Cersei is kind of weird to me.

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I think it's just weird to say it is impossible.

It's obviously possible. But

1. they didn't write it that way so the possibility was really irrelevant
2. she isn't a fighter so it was unlikely for her character i suppose

but not impossible.

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I don't have a problem with that b/c most people do not do heroic, suicidal acts when faced with a situation like that. I mean, think of all the mass shootings, I think it is being a little too harsh to say that was a stupid scene b/c she could have committed suicide by grabbing Cersei and jumping. Not many people would have that courage to do something like that.

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cbr said:

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bangobango said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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bobinator said:

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This zapruder film breakdown of whether she could have grabbed Cersei is kind of weird to me.

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I think it's just weird to say it is impossible.

It's obviously possible. But

1. they didn't write it that way so the possibility was really irrelevant
2. she isn't a fighter so it was unlikely for her character i suppose

but not impossible.

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I don't have a problem with that b/c most people do not do heroic, suicidal acts when faced with a situation like that. I mean, think of all the mass shootings, I think it is being a little too harsh to say that was a stupid scene b/c she could have committed suicide by grabbing Cersei and jumping. Not many people would have that courage to do something like that.

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True but she had to hear them say they were going to kill her immediately if danaris didn't surrender immediately. She knew danaris would not surrender. And frankly that danaris might do something dumb if she got mad enough. So she knew she was dead. Just seemed impossible that she would not take that ***** on a wall dive.

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cbr said:

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bangobango said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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bobinator said:

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This zapruder film breakdown of whether she could have grabbed Cersei is kind of weird to me.

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I think it's just weird to say it is impossible.

It's obviously possible. But

1. they didn't write it that way so the possibility was really irrelevant
2. she isn't a fighter so it was unlikely for her character i suppose

but not impossible.

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I don't have a problem with that b/c most people do not do heroic, suicidal acts when faced with a situation like that. I mean, think of all the mass shootings, I think it is being a little too harsh to say that was a stupid scene b/c she could have committed suicide by grabbing Cersei and jumping. Not many people would have that courage to do something like that.

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True but she had to hear them say they were going to kill her immediately if danaris didn't surrender immediately. She knew danaris would not surrender. And frankly that danaris might do something dumb if she got mad enough. So she knew she was dead. Just seemed impossible that she would not take that ***** on a wall dive.

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InternetFan02 said:

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How long does it take to travel the King's road? Is negotiating passage through the Twins still a thing? Do the Lannisters still control the twins even if the Freys are gone? Jon and Davos just gonna show up in King's landing or do they get bogged down for 2 seasons like Robb?

Unanswerable questions.

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