Maybe that's the reason last episode was so dark - it was -14 degrees at night and all the extras had Venti hot chocolates in their hands during the attack; cinematographers had to darken the scenes so you couldnt' see them.

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Here's the thing. This show's first 4-5 seasons were basically faithfully adapted from a well written series of books. The past 2 seasons are them doing their best, but they dont have writers that are nearly as talented, and it's unfortunate. I still enjoy watching the show, but I also can't just act like its not being handled poorly.

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Its HBO, theres no excuse for bad writing. They had two years for this season and not much to show for it. I'm going to finish this out and hope they pull out a miracle here. I think kililng Rhaegar off like he was a mosquito gives me some hope that they have the guts to make some hard choices. They are openly playing with the idea of killing Dany off. So, Dany is dying or Varys is, thats for sure.

I only tuned into this thread after the episode so I don't know if anyone else can relate, but I had a viscerally disgusted reaction to Jamie getting with Brienne. I'm a bad person who doesnt like ugly people and she is grotesque so it pained me to see that, its nasty. I don't know why they do this except to make Jamie killing Cersei more shocking, or his return to her side more shocking. I really hope Jamie doesnt kill Cersei because its too predictable.

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I know some people are starting this, but this is weird man. I thought it was an awkward scene, but if it literally pained you to watch considering no more than they did, then that is kind of weird.

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Do people like reb realize they don't have to press "post" on every asinine thought that tumbles from their head?

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check out my post count, brah. if you think thats asinine then you aint seen nothin yet.

deal with it. uggos doing anything sexual is nasty.

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I feel that. Poor girl.

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'Not killing civilians' is definitely not a 21st century thing. If anything, willingly killing civilians was a 19th/20th century thing. It wasn't really a thing before that.

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Can you please back up that statement?

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This idea that Tyrion would try this hard to save Cersei is hard to swallow. It is just really making him look like a complete dumbass.

Should've kept Jaime and Brienne platonic. I really do not understand what changed from before Jaime heard about the ambush to when Jaime decides to leave and go south. In both cases, he knew they would likely kill Cersei if they could. I guess this means he now thinks they're going to fail, so he is going to finish the job?

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Tyrion still holds out hope for Dany and is trying to save her by preventing her from killing everyone in King's Landing. He tried to save King's Landing by persuading Cersei to surrender. I'm sure he knew that he had zero chance of convincing her to surrender peacefully, but he had to at least try.

Jaime was drunk, and he's sad about all the evil crap he's done for Cersei, and he has a deep friendship with Brienne, and he really appreciates how she spoke up for him in Winterfell. There really isn't much that he wouldn't do for her, including popping her cherry.

And now, he's either giving in to the dark side or (more likely) going south to deal with the monster, Cersei. I'd say his character arc is right on track.

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Arya crushed my dreams for her. I wanted her to kill Cersei then go back to Gendry. He likes her the way she is. All murdery and *****

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I have a bad feeling. This is a guess, but... I think Arya is going to get the drop on Cersei, but then realize Cersei is pregnant, and hesitate just long enough to get herself killed.

I don't think Dany will burn KL.

She'll come to her senses just like she stopped her kamikaze attack on Euron's ships.

Just watched the episode and I'm not going to read all the posts over the past 24 hours, so I apologize if this is a repeat. Now that that's out of the way, I really dislike Dany now. It was like watching my kids grow a temper tantrum.

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I expect Jamie to fail and get killed by the Mountain. His character has been redeemed, but now it's time for the tragic/bittersweet aspect to the redemption, which is that the final act of his redemption will mean his death. I just don't think he's successful in his attempt

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the mountain is gonna kill the hound and jamie or just one? i don't think they'll let him get both.

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I think the Hound kills the Mountain. Both the Hound and the Mountain die IMO. The Hound may end up mortally wounded from the fight.

I kinda think that.

She is good and won't do it.

Starbucks coming out with GOT cups?

DSAg44 said:

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Starbucks coming out with GOT cups?

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Gotta get your "Ghost, redeye blend"

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Thinking about the upcoming battle with Cersei, I'm thinking whatever plan Dany/Jon come up with in Episode 4 will likely go to ***** Maybe the remaining Dorne forces are making their way up the coast and Euron wipes them all out. Etc.

Whatever it is we think will give them a fighting chance will promptly go sideways for them, as it did in most of Season 7.

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Wasn't too far off, actually.

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Who do yall want on the iron throne at this point?

I know the right answer is Jon, but I would be okay with Sansa at this point too.

Since the show likes to shock us I wouldn't be surprised if Dany goes full mad queen trying to burn the place to the ground and has Jon killed too and the final shot is her sitting on the iron throne.

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I'd like it to be Jon, but doubt it will. Don't think Dany or Cersei will have it either so its either destroyed or someone else.

Maybe that Starbucks cup will get Martin back to the keyboard so he can tell the real story.

That episode was a donkey abortion.