gigemJTH12 said:

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tag8 said:

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Anyone think that Euron looked entirely too surprised in the trailer for next week?

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Same here. Said that to my friends as soon as it happened.

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bobinator said:

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'Not killing civilians' is definitely not a 21st century thing. If anything, willingly killing civilians was a 19th/20th century thing. It wasn't really a thing before that.

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PatAg said:

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MBAR said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Charlie Conway said:

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Bron being an ******* to Jaime and Tyrion made no sense. He's be friendly and cordial with them this whole time and then all of a sudden he's a ****ing dick to them. His character is a sell sword, has always been that way. If he wants to kill one of them find, but to him it's always been about the money. It makes no sense for him to waltz in and be an ******* to them.

Jamie spent 7+ seasons redeeming his character, he's always been my favorite, trying to do what he thought was best as a knight faced with really tough decisions, and then tonight he just leaves to go back to Cersei after everything he's seen and done. They cut back his character arc with a machete.

I won't touch the not seeing a fleet of ships behind a cliff while you're flying through the ****ing sky on a dragon.

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Why is everyone assuming Jamie's going to be "back" with Cersei? When he said he was a hateful person I took it to mean he hated HIMSELF for what he had done for Cersei, and it's his intention to redeem himself.

Side note, blech, brienne was a very ugly crier

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At first when I read your post I thought you were flat out wrong but that's a fair point. I might be misreading his reaction and intentions. It could go either way. Guess we'll find out.

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Wait... People actually took that to think he's going back to Cersei? Cmon. That'd be literally the dumbest of all storylines.

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I think he does - but he intends to kill her. He can tell her he fought for the living and that battle is over and beg forgiveness.

she couldn't kill Tyrion twice now when she had the chance - she ain't gonna kill Jamie.

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He's got a kid with her coming, so I'm not so sure he intends to kill her.

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I don't know that he intends to kill her, but I think it ends up happening.

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We have the prophecy and all but we've also seen how the show has handled prophecies so far.

For me, all bets are off. Almost everything is plausible, but I'm not sure what is probable at this point. I oculd see the show going in every direction.

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maybe it's too neat, but I like the symmetry of him being hated so much, yet he ends up saving King's Landing's citizens from a mad ruler twice.

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Does the book go into the "don't kill all the civilians" stuff as much as the show? Seems like they are going way too 21st century on that sentiment. Back in the days prior to laser guided bombs and stuff, they had no choice than to waste the entire city. Hell as recetnly as 80 years ago we'd go Dresden on an entire city because we didn't have the ability to do pinpoint attacks.

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I think the book, and show, both give you the reason Jaime got dubbed the Kingslayer was because the Mad King was about to burn the whole city rather than lose it. He had also previous burnt the two Starks alive...or burnt one while the other hanged I think.

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I don't have any issues with the whole kingslayer part of the story. That makes 100% sense to me.

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Dany has started to show the tendency to make pretty crazy decisions along those lines, hence Tyrion and Varys being worried.

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This is the part I disagree with. What crazy has she done? Smoking the Tarlys? That was NOTHING. Making an example of them is way better than executing the entire army. When you don't have the technology that we have today and you need to defeat a king in a city, you have to take out the entire city. That's the way things typically had to be done back then since anything less would result in your annihilation later.

The problem is that Tyrion and Vary's seem to be living in 21st century. If they LGBs or even a good sniper rifle, then the Cersei problem would have been resolved a long time ago without much bloodshed. But that's not their reality. They are in a reality where you gotta march entire armies into cities and whatnot.

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Except that the Night's Watch exists for this purpose. Both of her advisors were even telling her to do this. The show starts immediately after a rebellion, where they take over King's Landing without taking out the entire city. We are even told this in the show.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Tension filled. And I still really have no good idea how it ends. Theories, but nothing I'm super confident in. I think it's been a fun ride. The ride definitely accelerated the past 2 seasons and some of the the story and character development probably suffered for it, but I don't know how anyone could not be enjoying this and rather choosing to nitpick it to death.

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LPHA said:

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"Which one of you cowards **** in my pants?"

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PatAg said:

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Anyone else cynical enough to think they are writing this season with a budget in mind...and they know they ran out of money to keep showing multiple dragons and a direwolf?


Not completely joking

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DannyDuberstein said:

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There are posts that have said it's worse than The Walking Dead. Someone with that opinion is a ****ing idiot

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PatAg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aTmAg said:

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Does the book go into the "don't kill all the civilians" stuff as much as the show? Seems like they are going way too 21st century on that sentiment. Back in the days prior to laser guided bombs and stuff, they had no choice than to waste the entire city. Hell as recetnly as 80 years ago we'd go Dresden on an entire city because we didn't have the ability to do pinpoint attacks.

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I think the book, and show, both give you the reason Jaime got dubbed the Kingslayer was because the Mad King was about to burn the whole city rather than lose it. He had also previous burnt the two Starks alive...or burnt one while the other hanged I think.

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I don't have any issues with the whole kingslayer part of the story. That makes 100% sense to me.

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Dany has started to show the tendency to make pretty crazy decisions along those lines, hence Tyrion and Varys being worried.

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This is the part I disagree with. What crazy has she done? Smoking the Tarlys? That was NOTHING. Making an example of them is way better than executing the entire army. When you don't have the technology that we have today and you need to defeat a king in a city, you have to take out the entire city. That's the way things typically had to be done back then since anything less would result in your annihilation later.

The problem is that Tyrion and Vary's seem to be living in 21st century. If they LGBs or even a good sniper rifle, then the Cersei problem would have been resolved a long time ago without much bloodshed. But that's not their reality. They are in a reality where you gotta march entire armies into cities and whatnot.

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Except that the Night's Watch exists for this purpose. Both of her advisors were even telling her to do this. The show starts immediately after a rebellion, where they take over King's Landing without taking out the entire city. We are even told this in the show.

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So my point is that the fact that her advisers are wringing their hands about this is nonsense. In such a world they wouldn't bat an eye about it. (If we pretend it is somewhat relatable to Earth a thousand or so years ago)

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Except that in this world, it's been established numerous times that it IS that way. Cities still get sacked of course, but that's different than burning them alive with dragonfire. You can think it's exactly like the Middle Ages all you like, but George Martin wrote this story and created this world. So if its written a certain way, than it is that way.

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gigemJTH12 said:

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Some of y'all need to read this. Game of Thrones is no exception. And they are doing a great job outside of a few errors.

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