yeah i mentioned that - surprised a bit but i guess he is who he said he was.

I expect Jamie to fail and get killed by the Mountain. His character has been redeemed, but now it's time for the tragic/bittersweet aspect to the redemption, which is that the final act of his redemption will mean his death. I just don't think he's successful in his attempt

if cersei wins, is it a bad ending?

does that leave an opening for another series/season? i think it's a good business decision.

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I expect Jamie to fail and get killed by the Mountain. His character has been redeemed, but now it's time for the tragic/bittersweet aspect to the redemption, which is that the final act of his redemption will mean his death. I just don't think he's successful in his attempt

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the mountain is gonna kill the hound and jamie or just one? i don't think they'll let him get both.

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I mean, except the fact that he acted like a complete dick and clearly has zero feelings of friendship towards either of them.

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and concerning Tyrion at least he's been a dick to him several times when it suits him....

Example when he set up the dragon pit meeting at KL in S7 when tyrion said he was taking a risk he said:

"I put you at risk. It's you head Queen Cersei has offered a bag of gold for, not mine. Now thanks to me she has two traitors heads (Tyrion and Varys) coming right through her door. she can lock them both up as soon as she gets tired of the clever words that pour out of their pie holes. All thanks to Ser Bronn of the ****ing Blackwater. If that's not looking out for myself I don't know what is"

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Question though...is there a reason Cersei wouldn't just kill all of them right there??

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No. Which means it's crap writing. Cersei would take that opportunity every day and twice on Sundays.

Also, Clay Travis just made a good point on his post shoe periscope... Bran is a ****ing 3ER. Why is he not going and researching **** so they can avoid stuff like the ambush.

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I belive Bran will no longer take part in events now that he is the 'chronicler of events"

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gigemJTH12 said:

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Question though...is there a reason Cersei wouldn't just kill all of them right there??

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The archers would not have done much damage to anyone other than Tyrion (metal shields and distance) and, I believe, the scorpions are at their lowest angle when at rest so they could not aim down from there toward the group or dragon.

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if they could reach the dragon (no idea if they could), they would have fired.

otherwise, cersei is just baiting dany to burn the place down.

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That absolutely makes no sense. He may secretly have that intention, but he wasn't about to tell that to Brienne. He def meant for it to mean he was going back to her.

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What makes no sense is thinking that her using that complete asswhipe Euron to attack Dany, wreck shop, and taking Missandei would be the motivation for him going "oh, I love her and am going back to her". These people just went through hell to save the realm of men with him. His hate is taking him back there. Hate that is now for her.

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I disagree...His hate is for himself.

I think the kind of man he has been is warring internally with the man Brienne sees and he is maybe not sure why he is going back. Either way, the hateful speech was as much to help Brienne sever her thoughts of him as it is him thinking about himself. When he gets to KL and finds out what Cersei has told Greyjoy about the baby, that hate will move from internal to her.

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Chase said:

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Question though...is there a reason Cersei wouldn't just kill all of them right there??

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The archers would not have done much damage to anyone other than Tyrion (metal shields and distance) and, I believe, the scorpions are at their lowest angle when at rest so they could not aim down from there toward the group or dragon.

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I thought it would have been fitting if the archers killed Tyrion right there. He's been in over his head and out-planned and out-maneuvered by Cersei's side every time they've engaged.

It's more evident than ever that the old lords and generals are all dead and the survivors are not all as smart as they think they are. At least, I hope that's the point of some of this.

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I think she left Tyrion to make sure they brought everything against her and didn't leave Sansa and Northerners to rise back up, as someone else suggested

That said, I am nearing the conclusion that, in her grief, Dany takes out Tyrion for causing the beheading.

C@LAg said:

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1. It must be great to have such low expectations, so that they are met every time.

2. Avengers did not end this year. There will be plenty more over the years to come

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And here we go. The main plot for Avengers did end, though I agree many other spinoffs will come out and hopefully be as solid as many have been so far. Star Wars was alright for episode 7, pretty rough for 8, and we will see for 9. Game of Thrones has been solid though the pacing is off these last two seasons. Sorry whatever fan theory you subscribe to didn't pan out (I guess).

Hmmm....Dragon fire range vs. Scorpion range?

I've never seen such a great weapon as a Dragon be used so poorly.

And I'm seriously thinking recording E5 and watching just before E6. But, dang, that would be hard to do

I definitely recommend some sort of delayed viewing. Allowed me to FF thru the Brienne sex scene tonight.

I have a hunch there is going to be one more resurrection. I'm leaning towards the Hound calling on the Lord of Light to bring back Arya. It would also be interesting if the guy terrified of fire eventually wields a flaming sword.

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OK, did I miss a scene tonight?

Tyrion and Sansa had their scene and she asks her question.... and then cutaway, and next thing you know both Tyrion and Varys are talking about Jon's parentage matter-of-factly, with no surprise.

So much KEY information being handled off screen this season it is ridiculous.

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Before tonight, Bran, Sam, Jon, and Dany were the ones who knew.

So, presumably Tyrion/Varys found out from her.

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They just need to drop Easy Company behind enemy lines to take out the anti-aircraft guns before carpet bombing to Red Keep. It's almost time for the yearly viewing if BoB

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but at least the assault tactics actually work.

Best series finale: Six Feet Under.

(Lock thread)

Additional thoughts and predictions:

Noticed several repeat formulas, maybe evidence of "lazy writing"- Tyrion crushes Shae to make bad departure more "cleanly". Jamie does the same. Ramsey kills Rickon to push Jon into a bad situation. Cersie kills Mel.

I think Jamie is on his way to complete the Maggie the Frog phopecy.

Bronn is a killer, no question. Remember when Tyrion asked him if he would question an order to kill children and his response was that he'd would only question "how much".

Jon is a Targaryen. Not a Stark. Bye Ghost.
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Oops bye Rhaegal as well!? Ghost ain't taking your two timing ass back!!

Overall enjoyed the episode as it was a necessary filler to get us to Kings landing.

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I'm interested in knowing if Euron is smart enough to realize that there's no way Tyrion could've known Cersei is pregnant that quickly. He was right there when Tyrion was trying to talk his sister down. Wonder how that might shake up his allegiance knowing the baby isn't his.

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I was wondering that too. I suspect it will not be addressed, unfortunately, but yeah, it should've been a "wait, what the hell" moment for Euron.

I don't think the writing we are getting now is on that level, though.