redline248 said:

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WestAustinAg said:

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I can't tell if her immediate reaction is disgust that she's been ****ing her nephew, or disgust that she may have a weaker claim than someone else...

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definitely that she has a weaker claim to the throne. she even said "that means you have the rightful claim to the throne" or something along those lines lol
incest is common in this show, so i doubt it was them banging that made her cringe

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Incest isn't common in the show. One couple engaged it and the Targs stopped the practice due to the disgust of everyone else on the continent.

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Maybe AggieZoom just meant that Cersei and Jamie got it on ALOT...

oh wait you're right... i was thinking of two siblings creating a "pure bloodline" but that was in The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina... my bad. got scenes confused in my head lol
but youre right. i remember the man who laid with his daughters and how Jon and the Nightswatch were disgusted lol

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I agree that Melisandre coming to Winterfell isn't very likely, but both Theon and Jaime showed up with death threats hanging over their heads. I remember Jon telling Theon that if he ever saw him again, he'd kill him. At Dragonstone, when they were on the beach. And Jaime had to know that any Stark or any Northman really would want him dead for what he did to Bran. They both came to Winterfell anyway.

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* to be fair they were not mad at him for what he did to Bran - nobody knows that except Bran (he specifically asks Bran why he didn't tell them what he did).


They were mad at him because he was somewhat complicit in Ned's death - although that's really on Joffrey. And certainly knew of the plans to kill Robb/Caitlyn at the Red Wedding.

And Dany was mad at him for killing her father Aerys and basically leading to the Targs being exiled.

But as he said that was just war in those cases and he wasn't going to apologize.

But still valid that he would certainly not be received kindly.

PS - I really think he missed an opportunity to apologize for Ned though, that was hotheaded Joffrey and not Jamie. I don't think he was on board with that. In fact I don't think he was even there - he was in the Riverlands then. Cersei, Joffrey, Sansa, Littlefinger, Pycelle, and Varys were there.

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i see saw a foreshadowing in Tyrion's "why do i feel by the end of this, one of you will be wearing this?" moment. I feel like he is going to die before it all ends. The episode had too much of Tyrion in it for my liking ( i like him but not the feeling i was getting after he said that and the rest of the episode had him all over it).
especially towards the end of the episode when he is standing on the castle wall looking out alone into the darkness.... this is just my hunch but i called it as soon as i saw it lol

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If he dies who is Hand of the Queen when Dany takes the throne? Varys would be my guess. He has always known he could never rule but has always wanted to be the true power behind the throne.

redline248 said:

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AggieZoom said:

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WestAustinAg said:

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I can't tell if her immediate reaction is disgust that she's been ****ing her nephew, or disgust that she may have a weaker claim than someone else...

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definitely that she has a weaker claim to the throne. she even said "that means you have the rightful claim to the throne" or something along those lines lol
incest is common in this show, so i doubt it was them banging that made her cringe

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Incest isn't common in the show. One couple engaged it and the Targs stopped the practice due to the disgust of everyone else on the continent.

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I read an interview with GRR Martin where he said his original plan was to have Arya and Jon Snow get it on, how awkward would that have been.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-season-8-arya-stark-jon-snow-george-rr-martin-a8878946.html%3famp

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I read an interview with GRR Martin where he said his original plan was to have Arya and Jon Snow get it on, how awkward would that have been.

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i was deeply distubed by that scene with Arya lol
she looks 12!

For such a great character, he sure has been quiet in these first two episodes.

bonfarr said:

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If he dies who is Hand of the Queen when Dany takes the throne? Varys would be my guess. He has always known he could never rule but has always wanted to be the true power behind the throne.

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most likely OR Jora if he lives?

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i see saw a foreshadowing in Tyrion's "why do i feel by the end of this, one of you will be wearing this?" moment. I feel like he is going to die before it all ends. The episode had too much of Tyrion in it for my liking ( i like him but not the feeling i was getting after he said that and the rest of the episode had him all over it).
especially towards the end of the episode when he is standing on the castle wall looking out alone into the darkness.... this is just my hunch but i called it as soon as i saw it lol

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I think that either Tyrion, Jamie, or both live through the BoW because at least one of them has to be alive for when Ser Bronn of the Blackwater arrives in the North.

last episode will have jon snow and sansa consummating their marriage on the iron throne.

I keep thinking about the crypts. I wonder just how bad it's going to be. All the women (mostly) will be down there, little Sam, Gilly, Tyrion, Varys. Sansa's not a fighter so she may be down there too. The crypts played such a big part in the promos that it makes me wonder just what might show up there, especially with all of the foreshadowing last week. I have to admit, I find the idea of all the Stark Kings rising up as skeleton zombies a bit stupid, but could the Walkers know a back way in?

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last episode will have jon snow and sansa consummating their marriage on the iron throne.

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Perfectly legal in California and many other states, since they are first cousins. But not in Texas! :-)

I like how you have to use two "not ___ per se" arguments, and Jon and Dany didn't know it was incest. Those instances don't make it "common."

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They could if the Night King was a Stark. I wonder if he retains memories from before he was created.

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redline248 said:

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I like how you have to use two "not ___ per se" arguments, and Jon and Dany didn't know it was incest. Those instances don't make it "common."

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Are you from West Virginia or what?

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Oh ffs, the entire continent of people think incest is an abomination, but sure, it's common.

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I like how you have to use two "not ___ per se" arguments, and Jon and Dany didn't know it was incest. Those instances don't make it "common."

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didn't say it was "common"... you said "ONE" couple engaged in it.

not true at all. At least 4 I listed for you. 2 others were too close for comfort.

it's not common but it's not unheard of or ONE instance either.

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They could if the Night King was a Stark. I wonder if he retains memories from before he was created.

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Book nerd here but wasn't Winterfell built after the Long Night by Bran the Builder? Not sure if that was mentioned in the show.

Although it segues into something else that is bugging me. What is the Night Kings motivation? I get that we're not going to get a long extended backstory in the remaining few episodes but I personally don't find "he wants to extinguish the memory of men" very compelling. And why now? Did something happen to set off the Walkers when they were fine just chillin for 8000 years? It seems personal between him and the current surviving Starks and I hope they're planning to expand just a little bit on it. The Walkers became aggressive before the dragons were born, before Bran came north of the wall, before Craster was killed. Why?

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Honest question regarding the books as I haven't read them: can you even really correlate the books with the show at this point? Is there so much that's just drastically different?

Like isn't there no Night King in the books at this stage? And isn't Aegon Targaryen someone else?

In a lot of ways yes, the show and books are really separate now. But my questions regarding the Night King are purely show-related, since he's a show-only creation. I hope we find out WHY he's coming to destroy humanity and I hope it's better reason than "because they're there." So far we don't know why, and why they came now (and not 20 or 100 or 1000 years ago).

I suppose he never figured out the solution to the Wall.

Mel will probably show back up with a bunch of red priests and priestesses at the last minute whenever the final battle against the NK happens and save everyone, while dying in the process. Just seems that for a religion that is so focused on fighting against the WWs, they have up until this point done absolutely nothing to stop them, minus Thoros.

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Mel will probably show back up with a bunch of red priests and priestesses at the last minute whenever the final battle against the NK happens and save everyone, while dying in the process. Just seems that for a religion that is so focused on fighting against the WWs, they have up until this point done absolutely nothing to stop them, minus Thoros.

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My guess as to her purpose is that she will be doing another resurrection before it is all over.

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Certainly possible. I just think that it doesn't make sense for her to take off to Volantis just to come back essentially empty handed. I think she probably went to Volantis to round-up support.