****** Game of Thrones - Season 8 ******

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C@LAg said:

Yes, it was in the trailer, but that seems to be spoilery kind of information since it would be easy to miss and could just be assumed to be garment "frillage". but whatever. And I agree, the assessment is very likely.

So does this confirm that wights just need to be "scratched" by dragonglass, and not pierced?
This may be nit picking, but the dragonglass is only for the Walkers. It's just another sharp blade against the regular wights. (Although I will admit I can't remember if the tv show has ever shown a wight being attacked with dragonglass).

And you probably meant the walkers, anyway.
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Dragon glass kills White Walkers and wights (zombies). They killed a butt load of them north of the wall with dragonglass weapons and then again at King Landing during the informercial that Jon and Davos put on.
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well then disregard everything I typed
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I seriously can't remember a lot from the last season. I wonder why that is, relative to what I remember from all the other seasons.
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redline248 said:

I seriously can't remember a lot from the last season. I wonder why that is, relative to what I remember from all the other seasons.
because season 7 ended like 5 year ago,.
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We know that episode 3 is the battle of Winterfell directed by Miguel Sapochnik and that he is also directing episode 5 which will include another battle scene.
It will be at the Trident IMHO and King's Landing will be the last episode involving just the Clegane Bowl and Cersei getting killed by Jaimie.

just my guesses that are probably wrong
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Fire kills wights, too. But not WW.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Fire kills wights, too. But not WW.
do we know that?


I guess we saw them walk through it, so the answer is no.

but I would bet wildfire would have an affect on them since it is chemical based, and not normal combustion based.
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C@LAg said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Fire kills wights, too. But not WW.
do we know that?


Well every time the opportunity has presented itself, the WW just make the fire disappear. That doesn't mean a dragon's breath couldn't take them down though.
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Dragon fire has a magical element to it though so I think it's entirely possible they are more or less safe from normal fire where dragon fire could kill one.
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redline248 said:

I seriously can't remember a lot from the last season. I wonder why that is, relative to what I remember from all the other seasons.
My wife and I typically consumed a lot of wine on Sunday nights for GOT. A lot of the reason I always had a Monday re-watch.

Did you forget the Monday re-watch?
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TXRunner97 said:

We know that episode 3 is the battle of Winterfell directed by Miguel Sapochnik and that he is also directing episode 5 which will include another battle scene.
It will be at the Trident IMHO and King's Landing will be the last episode involving just the Clegane Bowl and Cersei getting killed by Jaimie.

just my guesses that are probably wrong
I didn't know that. I just thought they filmed the one major battle. Now I'm even more amped. thanks
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TXRunner97 said:

We know that episode 3 is the battle of Winterfell directed by Miguel Sapochnik and that he is also directing episode 5 which will include another battle scene.
It will be at the Trident IMHO and King's Landing will be the last episode involving just the Clegane Bowl and Cersei getting killed by Jaimie.

just my guesses that are probably wrong
Disagree.

We know Cersei has brought the Golden Company over from Essos to defend King's landing. 50K or whatever men. There will be a big battle there as well.

Although I guess they could have a last minute counter-betrayal and the GC change sides.
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i thought that the GC was famous for not changing sides... though that doesn't mean the show writers can't do their own thing.
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ja86 said:

i thought that the GC was famous for not changing sides... though that doesn't mean the show writers can't do their own thing.


True, but what it does is allow for the showrunners to quickly have Cersei be entirely isolated and to be an awesome betrayal that she deserves.
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Question from a Game of Thrones idiot (me): Would the people on the other continent be in any danger of the white walkers getting to them?
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BoomGoesThe said:

Question from a Game of Thrones idiot (me): Would the people on the other continent be in any danger of the white walkers getting to them?


Well, with global cooling brought on by The Night King, ice will build up between Westeros and eEssos and the old land bridge around the Stepping Stones could be re-established via an ice route that would allow them to invade Essos...
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They can steer a dead horse. Why can't they steer a ship?
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They have a big ass chain, they could pull up a dead whale, let it swallow them, ride it to Essos and land on the beaches and come out of the mouth like a landing craft on the Normandy beaches.

That or they could just walk on the ocean floor to Essos. It's not like they need oxygen
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It amazes me that this conversation pops up right after I watched the scene mentioned above with Jon killing the wight in front of Cersei. Euron asks Jon is the wights can swim, and Jon says no. The implication is that they can't get to the iron islands.

I really don't see why the NK can't just load them on a boat, though.
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Why would he need a boat? They can just swim across the ocean. It's not like they can drown or tire out/need food and water.
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According to Jon, they can't swim
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speaking of chains that reminds me about a theory I read the other day having to do with the Night King.


So some of the complaints about the "Beyond the Wall" episode revolve around
  • the sudden appearance of those chains
  • the preparedness of the zombies for what was supposed to be a surprise mission to capture a wight
  • having weapons that can kill a dragon
  • the apparent lack of urgency to kill the humans

So what if all of those issues are answered by the apparent connection between Bran and the Night King. What if the Night King knows what's going to happen because he can read Bran's mind. And if his goal was to breach the wall then what did he need - a dragon. and who has one - Dany. And who is working with Dany - Jon.

Recall back to Bran's vision in Eas****ch of the army of the dead encircled in the north - but in that case there was nobody in the middle. But it could have been a vision of what was coming.

Or the NK is simply a greenseer himself (or he's Bran in some crazy time loop - there is a theory that the NK is coming south to kill Bran to keep him from going north and becoming the NK).

Anyway they wait in a place they know they can trap Jon and his band, and then encircle them like he foresaw and wait for him to summon the dragons.

That explains why they have the dragon weapons and chains nearby apparently.

They wanted a dragon all along and laid a trap combined with seeing the future some way (thru Bran, or the NK himself). And then they had what they needed to bring the wall down - I mean otherwise they marched 1000s of miles in snow with no real plan for how to bring the wall down and just got lucky(??). I think not.
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redline248 said:

According to Jon, they can't swim
they cannot swim because they are mostly bone, have no fat and little skin tissue.

but nothing says they cannot walk along the floor of the ocean/sea/etc.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

speaking of chains that reminds me about a theory I read the other day having to do with the Night King.


So some of the complaints about the "Beyond the Wall" episode revolve around
  • the sudden appearance of those chains
  • the preparedness of the zombies for what was supposed to be a surprise mission to capture a wight
  • having weapons that can kill a dragon
  • the apparent lack of urgency to kill the humans

So what if all of those issues are answered by the apparent connection between Bran and the Night King. What if the Night King knows what's going to happen because he can read Bran's mind. And if his goal was to breach the wall then what did he need - a dragon. and who has one - Dany. And who is working with Dany - Jon.

Recall back to Bran's vision in Eas****ch of the army of the dead encircled in the north - but in that case there was nobody in the middle. But it could have been a vision of what was coming.

Or the NK is simply a greenseer himself (or he's Bran in some crazy time loop - there is a theory that the NK is coming south to kill Bran to keep him from going north and becoming the NK).

Anyway they wait in a place they know they can trap Jon and his band, and then encircle them like he foresaw and wait for him to summon the dragons.

That explains why they have the dragon weapons and chains nearby apparently.

They wanted a dragon all along and laid a trap combined with seeing the future some way (thru Bran, or the NK himself). And then they had what they needed to bring the wall down - I mean otherwise they marched 1000s of miles in snow with no real plan for how to bring the wall down and just got lucky(??). I think not.

or... it was just a convenient plot device.

I am not discounting that theory at all. I am just saying that it is too complicated for the showrunners at this point.
they likely did not think that far through.
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MuckRaker96 said:

How about a revolving glass door into Winterfell but the glass is dragon glass? The wights are all like, well hey this is convenient, but instead they are all killed.

Better yet, Bran has them build a complete replica of Winterfell and puts a toll booth on the road with a sign that reads "Toll, one coin of Dragon Glass". When the Night King sends them back to get it they all die because they touch it and the finale is a huge food fight in the commissary.
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simpler.

Have the dragons melt all the snow around Winterfell.

Shatter all the dragonglass into shards

Spread liberally all around Winterfell.

Sit on the ramparts and moon the Others like the French Knights in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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Stolen from Facebook
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InternetFan02 said:

Stolen from Facebook


Is that from the Internet for Ants?
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I doubt zombies can do the tasks necessary to actually sail ships large enough to transport an army.

I'm also pretty certain that walking along the bottom of the ocean would end up with a bunch of bones scattered on the ocean floor due to the pressure.
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Fenrir said:

I doubt zombies can do the tasks necessary to actually sail ships large enough to transport an army.

I'm also pretty certain that walking along the bottom of the ocean would end up with a bunch of bones scattered on the ocean floor due to the pressure.
um...

1. they are magically animated, most do not have sufficient connective tissue and muscle to actually walk
2. pressure would not have any impact on skeleton/zombies, unless recently dead... and even then not much. they would not care about impact on gasses in their blood.

/.zombie nerd
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1. They're very obviously not coordinated.

2. Bottom of ocean pressures (even among the shallower oceans on Earth) are capable of breaking every bone in your body. I'm not talking about Mariana trench depths either. Animated piles of bone dust aren't going to be very dangerous to the people on Essos.
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Fenrir said:

1. They're very obviously not coordinated.

2. Bottom of ocean pressures (even among the shallower oceans on Earth) are capable of breaking every bone in your body. I'm not talking about Mariana trench depths either. Animated piles of bone dust aren't going to be very dangerous to the people on Essos.
a dead body no longer has all the same limitations of a live one. With no active gas exchanges or liquids, pressure would act to move liquids and soft tissues out of holes leaving more of a skeleton than a juicy zombie.

and skeletons can still be animated.

humans have been able to dive down to 1000 feet with rebreathers

plus the narrow sea between Westeros and Essos can be presumed to not be deep like that pacific, and much more shallow.

and the areas along the stepping stones are likely to be no more than a few hundred feet deep at most.

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If pirates of the Caribbean can do it, why can't GoT?

Edit: forgot winky face
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