Sandra eating the sugar and then blindsiding JT (while he had an idol) was amazing! Even he (JT) needed to appreciate that maneuver.

I almost feel like her entire tribe knew it would do more harm than good to argue with her. Hali lost ground to Ozzie just like dozens and dozens of other castaways. You cant expect Hali Ford or anyone outside of 3 or 4 people to keep up with Ozzie.

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I almost feel like her entire tribe knew it would do more harm than good to argue with her. Hali lost ground to Ozzie just like dozens and dozens of other castaways. You cant expect Hali Ford or anyone outside of 3 or 4 people to keep up with Ozzie.

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Ozzie beat her but she still finished 2nd. Debbie was first to the beam and didn't even finish.

So who's the secret returning person?

Hopefully Russell H

blackgoldag11 said:

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Hopefully Russell H

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That would be good.

Other candidates:

Rupert
Rob Mariano
Phillip (how awesome would that be)

I only saw the end the once, and I clearly don't remember well, but are we sure they're returning to enter the game? Just a visit? Could it be a player voted off due to some off screen drama?

Bulldog73 said:

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I only saw the end the once, and I clearly don't remember well, but are we sure they're returning to enter the game? Just a visit? Could it be a player voted off due to some off screen drama?

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I don't know about stay and play or just visit, but I got the impression it's someone we haven't seen yet.

Theres a 0.0000001% chance its Russell. CBS did a Hero v Villains bracket for March Madness and they didnt include Russell. Hes one of if not the biggest villain of all time.

I think it's Boston Rob, but only to acknowledge Ozzy as being the player who has played the most days. Looks like Ozzy passed him on day 14. Probst always seems to make a big deal about it. Rob, Parvati, Amanda, etc.

Ding dong the witch is gone.

What a play by Tai.

And as if we needed further proof Debbie is a psycho nutjob, we got it.

I think that was mostly Tai being a dumbass and lucking out.

Tai almost talked himself off of the island. He was fortunate there were bigger targets surrounding him.

Why did Tai look so confused after the vote if everyone, including Tai himself, followed their original plan?

Tai voted for Sandra. He was in on the plan the whole time. In fact, the entire anti-Sandra voting bloc played Sandra like a fiddle all the way until the votes were read. I can't remember anything quite like this in any previous tribal council in any season. The plan had to be airtight to ensure that they voted her out, and they pulled it off. Magnificently played.

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Why did Tai look so confused after the vote if everyone, including Tai himself, followed their original plan?

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I've seen where players say the vote almost never changes at tribal. IF they got Tai to play the bumbling fool to ensure Sandra didn't play an idol, then that's some damn good gameplay.

I doubt Tai was in on it. Hes a fool. We will have to wait for someone else on the tribe to be voted off.

Andrea was looking extra hot tonight so that was a bonus.

LHIOB said:

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Andrea was looking extra hot LIKE ALWAYS so that was a bonus.

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FIFY

First few eps not so much

txaggiefarmer05 said:

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Gramercy Riffs said:

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Why did Tai look so confused after the vote if everyone, including Tai himself, followed their original plan?

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I've seen where players say the vote almost never changes at tribal. IF they got Tai to play the bumbling fool to ensure Sandra didn't play an idol, then that's some damn good gameplay.

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Right, but if that's the case, there's no need for Tai to continue to sell it while Sandra is walking off the set. He looked genuinely confused.

I disagree. That would mean Ozzy was lying to the cameras (while alone) when he called Tai a dumbass. I think the part that was edited out was the part where the tribe decided to vote for Sandra despite Tai's dumbassery. That would make Tai confident to NOT play his idol.

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txaggiefarmer05 said:

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Gramercy Riffs said:

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Why did Tai look so confused after the vote if everyone, including Tai himself, followed their original plan?

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I've seen where players say the vote almost never changes at tribal. IF they got Tai to play the bumbling fool to ensure Sandra didn't play an idol, then that's some damn good gameplay.

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Right, but if that's the case, there's no need for Tai to continue to sell it while Sandra is walking off the set. He looked genuinely confused.

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Sure, but I wrote IF in all caps for a reason. One thing Tai has proven is that he's a ****ty survivor player, so whether he was in on it or not, he will always have a great chance of screwing everything up by opening his mouth.

I can't decide if Tai was the recipient of a good edit but to walk into tribal (in the scenario we were shown) with two idols in your pocket and not play one is nuts.

CheeseSndwch said:

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I can't decide if Tai was the recipient of a good edit but to walk into tribal (in the scenario we were shown) with two idols in your pocket and not play one is nuts.

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It's hard to have a secret anti-Tai agenda if everybody is saying "vote Sandra" to each other at tribal council. I can see Tai becoming confident because of that.

Tai is an amazing actor if that all was an elaborate ruse to destroy Sandra.

So either Tai is a super savy player who outwitted one of the best players ever or Tai is a dumbass with incredibly good luck?

What in Tai's history has ever shown that he's not a dumbass?

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So either Tai is a super savy player who outwitted one of the best players ever or Tai is a dumbass with incredibly good luck?

What in Tai's history has ever shown that he's not a dumbass?

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I am not sure what happened but they had to do something to make it seem like it wasn't a no brainer.

And Ozzy was the stupid one when Tai said we're voting for Sandra, right? He just needed to confirm it and then tell Varner that that's what they're telling Tai. But because of a risk of an idol, they need to convince him it' Sandra. Maybe he did. Or maybe it was editing an enocuraged in the confessional.

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So either Tai is a super savy player who outwitted one of the best players ever or Tai is a dumbass with incredibly good luck?

What in Tai's history has ever shown that he's not a dumbass?

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This. Tai is NOT an amazing actor, and Tai is never confident. The fact that he didn't paranoid out and play an idol, especially when he has a couple of them, really surprised me.

Zeke made a good point that "how can we trust you if you don't trust us?"

Unthought Known said:

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Zeke made a good point that "how can we trust you if you don't trust us?"

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Zeke is amazingly astute for one so young.

Based off of the edit, I don't think Tai is dumb. Aside from before the immunity challenge, no one was talking to him afterwards. Considering he is already a nervous guy, why wouldn't he be paranoid? I do agree Ozzy could have easily explained why Tai told Varner that Sandra was the target

For him not to play an Idol or appear to really think about it, he probably knew more than we thought but still don't think all of that was planned.

At this rate, I fear we're heading to a final 3 of Sarah, Troyzan and Hali. That would be so disappointing!

Love Zeke's gameplay so far. I'm glad Cirie has avoided Tribal Council - hopefully her luck continues!

I wish they were showing more of what's going on at all the tribes. I get that they have to tell a story to show why someone's being voted out. When we're almost halfway through the show and have barely seen one tribe - it's just too obvious. I want to see what's going on with all the tribes.

I don't think it's been discussed here yet - but Cochran? SERIOUSLY? I saw a funny tweet last night from a former Survivor player that said "A boat with Cochran and Debbie is not Exile Island. It is the 9th Circle of Hell." I'm interested to see how the extra vote plays - given no one else knows about it. And will Debbie tell anyone about her Exile, or will it stay a secret? I know Probst has been know to spill stuff like that - but I think it would be more interesting if they leave it up to her on what to tell people.

kpaggie05 said:

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At this rate, I fear we're heading to a final 3 of Sarah, Troyzan and Hali. That would be so disappointing!

Love Zeke's gameplay so far. I'm glad Cirie has avoided Tribal Council - hopefully her luck continues!

I wish they were showing more of what's going on at all the tribes. I get that they have to tell a story to show why someone's being voted out. When we're almost halfway through the show and have barely seen one tribe - it's just too obvious. I want to see what's going on with all the tribes.

I don't think it's been discussed here yet - but Cochran? SERIOUSLY? I saw a funny tweet last night from a former Survivor player that said "A boat with Cochran and Debbie is not Exile Island. It is the 9th Circle of Hell." I'm interested to see how the extra vote plays - given no one else knows about it. And will Debbie tell anyone about her Exile, or will it stay a secret? I know Probst has been know to spill stuff like that - but I think it would be more interesting if they leave it up to her on what to tell people.

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We can't have "barely seen one tribe" because the tribes are getting rewritten every third week.

Debbie is gross, and her slobbering all over Cochran was even more gross.

Was that tweet from Randy Bailey?