Trident 88 said:

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Ogre09 said:

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Jon being the heir means Dany, his aunt, is subject to him. If they both knew and acknowledged that, her forces would be at his command to battle the Night King without having to convince her. It's hugely important.

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He would definitely have to convince her. Her army is hers, not the rightful heir's. They follow her because they chose her.

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Ogre09 said:

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Trident 88 said:

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Ogre09 said:

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Jon being the heir means Dany, his aunt, is subject to him. If they both knew and acknowledged that, her forces would be at his command to battle the Night King without having to convince her. It's hugely important.

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He would definitely have to convince her. Her army is hers, not the rightful heir's. They follow her because they chose her.

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If she knew he was the heir, she would serve him.

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Hickory High said:

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This episode felt pretty flimsy. I immediately wanted to call bull**** after just 5 minutes into it.

• How the HELL did both Bronn and Jamie swim all the way across that lake?
• How the HELL did no one in Dany's army catch Bronn and Jamie as they swam across the lake?
• Why does no one suggest to Dany that the whole "bend the knee or die" ultimatum is hardly a real choice at all and that she's starting to become just like all the others?
• How is it that the only thing Dany has to say about her dragon being cool with Jon, something that has never happened before, is "Aren't they beautiful"?
• How does Cersei still have the necessary funds to pay back the Iron Bank even with all the gold from the Tyrell's?
• Look, I know you kind of just have to get over the travel time thing, but come on....Jamie gets back to King's Landing with no horse in like 5 minutes, Tyrion travels to King's Landing and back by row boat in no time....COME ON!!!!

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You're an idiot...

It was a river, not a lake. Bronn grabbed Jamie and they floated downstream.

Bend the knee or die is not a bad line. What's a fair alternative to enemy soldiers you captured?

I think Dany was impressed with Jon's interaction with Drogon. What did you want her to say? "OMG, you must be a Targaryan!"?

Cersei has the Tyrell's money. It got to KL before Dany attacked.

Jamie was attacked near KL. Travel time was short.

Dragonstone is just across Blackwater Bay from KL. Travel time was short.

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InternetFan02 said:

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Also should note that Jorah is still trapped in the friend zone. She gives him friendly hugs then turns to eye-****ing at Jon. Jon gets his sword and his woman.

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powerbelly51 said:

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Yes. The show skips over all the travel that is unimportant to the story. What is so hard to understand about that? Would you rather watch 3+ seasons of Johns and crew on a boat? Or would you rather skip that?

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AstroAg17 said:

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I get that Jamie is important and the writers aren't done with him. The charge at Dany seems consistent with his character too. But the lake escape is so ridiculous, I think they should have just scrapped it and pulled Jamie and Bronn out of battle some other way. If you're going to have him do a foolhardy final charge, he should die. It's not in the character of the show to pull coincidental, nonsensical stunts to save the main characters.

I know it seems like discussion that should have followed the last episode, but I was really hoping they would resolve it somehow in a better way following the cliffhanger.

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AstroAg17 said:

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I get that Jamie is important and the writers aren't done with him. The charge at Dany seems consistent with his character too. But the lake escape is so ridiculous, I think they should have just scrapped it and pulled Jamie and Bronn out of battle some other way. If you're going to have him do a foolhardy final charge, he should die. It's not in the character of the show to pull coincidental, nonsensical stunts to save the main characters.

I know it seems like discussion that should have followed the last episode, but I was really hoping they would resolve it somehow in a better way following the cliffhanger.

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PatAg said:

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AstroAg17 said:

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I get that Jamie is important and the writers aren't done with him. The charge at Dany seems consistent with his character too. But the lake escape is so ridiculous, I think they should have just scrapped it and pulled Jamie and Bronn out of battle some other way. If you're going to have him do a foolhardy final charge, he should die. It's not in the character of the show to pull coincidental, nonsensical stunts to save the main characters.

I know it seems like discussion that should have followed the last episode, but I was really hoping they would resolve it somehow in a better way following the cliffhanger.

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Based on all of our reactions to it, they should have made it much more clear if it was a river or a lake they were next to. If it's a river like most of us say, then the current would wash them down stream..hell that's one of the ways Butch and Sundance escape.

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InternetFan02 said:

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With the romantic brother/sister makeout session after pregancy revelation and the aunt/nephew eye-****ing scenes is this the most incest friendly TV episode ever?

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incest is fine, as long as everyone is attractive.

it is only when the horrible recessive genes kick in that it is not OK.

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PatAg said:

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Let's talk about Cersei anchor-babying Jaime. There has been more than a few times you could see him just wondering what he has got himself into with her, and her madness...but now she is pregnant with his kid.

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Ogre09 said:

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SeattleAgJr said:

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InternetFan02 said:

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With the romantic brother/sister makeout session after pregancy revelation and the aunt/nephew eye-****ing scenes is this the most incest friendly TV episode ever?

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incest is fine, as long as everyone is attractive.

it is only when the horrible recessive genes kick in that it is not OK.

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I.e. joffrey?

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Hickory High said:

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powerbelly51 said:

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Yes. The show skips over all the travel that is unimportant to the story. What is so hard to understand about that? Would you rather watch 3+ seasons of Johns and crew on a boat? Or would you rather skip that?

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I didn't make my point clear it seems. My issue is not with the individual "fast travels", it's the syncing of all the different timelines seems impossible.

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titanmaster_race said:

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InternetFan02 said:

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Also should note that Jorah is still trapped in the friend zone. She gives him friendly hugs then turns to eye-****ing at Jon. Jon gets his sword and his woman.

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Jorah is awesome now, but that's what you get for getting your hands dirty in the slavery business.

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JJxvi said:

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Cersei letting Tyrion come into Kings Landing and leave intact for even for whatever plot she's got going was the thing that felt most off to me about this episode.

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Worse than Dany, Jorah, Jon, And Davos all just blindly accepting Tyrion's plan to bring a wight to Cersei???

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hunter2012 said:

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For anyone interested the Littlefinger note is the letter that Sansa wrote to Robb when Ned was arrested.

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Robb, I write to you with a heavy heart. Our good king Robert is dead, killed from wounds he took in a boar hunt. Father has been charged with treason. He conspired with Robert's brothers against my beloved Joffrey and tried to steal his throne. The Lannisters are treating me very well and provide me with every comfort. I beg you: come to King's Landing, swear fealty to King Joffrey and prevent any strife between the great houses of Lannister and Stark.

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I love littlefinger because he really knows how to stir sh*t up...

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