I didn't see Wiggles as a threat to win at all. Only reason I see doing it is to get 1 of the 3 floaters out to cancel them switching and throwing the power alliance game into chaos. Kimmi, Wiggles, and Keith didn't even raise their hand to say they were worried about getting voted out, that's how little their playing the game.

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I didn't see Wiggles as a threat to win at all. Only reason I see doing it is to get 1 of the 3 floaters out to cancel them switching and throwing the power alliance game into chaos. Kimmi, Wiggles, and Keith didn't even raise their hand to say they were worried about getting voted out, that's how little their playing the game.

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Wiggles wasn't a big threat to win, but she was the social glue that helped hold the voting blocks together

They certainly didn't show her as one, but everyone seemed to recognize her as a threat on the game.

Standings Update

1) gravy97 48.5

2) CheeseSndwch 47.5
Quinn 47.5

4) Ronnie 46
5) LHIOB 45

6) MooreTrucker 44.5
7) MuckRaker96 44
8) TheSheik 43
AcctAg11 43
10) Longhorn Nation 43

11) double aught 42
12) Pro Ag 40
kpaggie05 40

13) txaggiefarmer05 39
zap 39

15) Bobcat06 38
16) tallgrant 37
17) Unthought Known 36
18) hurleyag 35.5
19) jdgilberg 35
20) BlackLab 32

21) Moxie 31
22) salvatore_ditmars 30.5
23) ChipFTAC01 27.5
24) tx1c 25

This is the beginning of the end. They handed over the keys to a minority alliance (3 witches.)

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Yeah. It was dumb.

epic fail...ugh...more ciera SHOOT ME IN THE FACE


also, fishback is missing the forest for the trees...so worried to make a big move when he didnt really need to

Keith is competing surprisingly well in all the challenges, I noticed. Seems like he is ranking around 3rd place on average. He will likely become a threat as soon as Joe goes home.

Is Jeremy throwing challenges to keep the target off himself? I am surprised how often he is out early in these comps.

I think Jeremy is going to get to comfortable holding 2 hidden idols and can actually see him getting sent home without using one or both.

As for the vote last night, personally I would have targeted Fish. You know he has an advantage in the game now and I'd try to take him out before he has the chance to use it.

Really shaking my head over last night's episode, where to begin?

First, Spencer should be voted off for being outswum by Fischback. How is that even possible?

Second, agree about Fish wanting to make a move just to make a move. Wiggles was loyal to Joe, and vice versa, but who cares? They were both voting the way you wanted to, and neither one of them appeared to be playing strategy of any sort.

Third, they didn't tell at least Tasha, nor did they tell Kimmi. WTF? If I've learned one thing from watching Survivor in general and life as a whole, it's that WOMEN HOLD GRUDGES - for real acts or ones they think happened. Now Tasha and Kimmi no longer trust Jeremy/Spencer/Fish. And even if Jeremy/Spencer throw Fish under the bus about it, it won't get any better. Tasha and Kimmi will have zero qualms about flipping themselves into a girls' alliance with the 3 witches, and that makes 5 votes - with the J/S/F on the other side, and Keith and Joe suddenly the 2 most important people in the game. The girls will suspect at least one of J/S/F has an idol ,so they'll probably split the vote if they can rope Joe and Keith in. And that could very well mean Spencer goes home because the other two have some form of protection.

EDIT - I can definitely see Keith swinging to the girls' side, I think a lot of them are starting to see him as a father figure out there, and he's playing the part, probably without even realizing it. He can go a long way, and he'd be tough in a jury vote because he's imminently likable.

I fervently wanted Abi to win immunity last night, just to see what crazy stuff she would do the rest of the episode.

Kudos to Jeremy for the hustle game. I can only think of two other times one person has had two idols at once - James the grave digger, who went home with 2 in his pocket, and Parvati, who gave them to Jeri and Sandra during Heroes/Villains.

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Really shaking my head over last night's episode, where to begin?

First, Spencer should be voted off for being outswum by Fischback. How is that even possible?

Second, agree about Fish wanting to make a move just to make a move. Wiggles was loyal to Joe, and vice versa, but who cares? They were both voting the way you wanted to, and neither one of them appeared to be playing strategy of any sort.

Third, they didn't tell at least Tasha, nor did they tell Kimmi. WTF? If I've learned one thing from watching Survivor in general and life as a whole, it's that WOMEN HOLD GRUDGES - for real acts or ones they think happened. Now Tasha and Kimmi no longer trust Jeremy/Spencer/Fish. And even if Jeremy/Spencer throw Fish under the bus about it, it won't get any better. Tasha and Kimmi will have zero qualms about flipping themselves into a girls' alliance with the 3 witches, and that makes 5 votes - with the J/S/F on the other side, and Keith and Joe suddenly the 2 most important people in the game. The girls will suspect at least one of J/S/F has an idol ,so they'll probably split the vote if they can rope Joe and Keith in. And that could very well mean Spencer goes home because the other two have some form of protection.

EDIT - I can definitely see Keith swinging to the girls' side, I think a lot of them are starting to see him as a father figure out there, and he's playing the part, probably without even realizing it. He can go a long way, and he'd be tough in a jury vote because he's imminently likable.

I fervently wanted Abi to win immunity last night, just to see what crazy stuff she would do the rest of the episode.

Kudos to Jeremy for the hustle game. I can only think of two other times one person has had two idols at once - James the grave digger, who went home with 2 in his pocket, and Parvati, who gave them to Jeri and Sandra during Heroes/Villains.

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That was a great moment.

I actually liked the move by Stephen - mainly because Joe/Kelly/Tasha already didn't trust him and wanted to vote him out. However, I can't believe he got Jeremy and Spencer to agree to it. Jeremy's really putting all of his trust in Stephen thinking he's Stephen's new JT. Biggest difference is that Stephen took a backseat when it came to claiming responsibility for moves in his first season. Doesn't seem like he's going to let that fly this time around. I just don't see how it made sense for Jeremy and Spencer - should make next week interesting.

I love that Jeremy found another idol. Shows that even with one, he knows he can't get too comfortable. I feel like there are so many people that trust him - someone would have to tip him off if his name is being seriously discussed. Like Joe tipping off Wentworth last week.

These voting blocks are crazy - now it's 3-3-4 - which means anything can happen.

Interested to see what's going to happen with this vote canceling advantage. Does it actually help Fishbach advance in the game - or does it fall flat like the extra vote by Dan did last year?

And come on, Joe with ANOTHER immunity win? If he loses one at all - they would be idiots to not vote him out immediately.

Did Tony have two in the season that he won? Or did he just have them so often it seemed like he had two?

I agree with those that say the witches flipped from the bottom to the top. So dumb by Jeremy IMO.

Jeremy seems more than content to let the witches roast a few of his perceived competitors. Having two idols has impacted his game significantly.

Malcolm also used two (gave one to Eddie) to get the specialist out. I feel like Russell hantz had two at one point during one of his seasons, but I could be remembering that wrong

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Interested to see what's going to happen with this vote canceling advantage. Does it actually help Fishbach advance in the game - or does it fall flat like the extra vote by Dan did last year?

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I think having a known advantage puts a huge target on your back for a blindside.

Standings Correction, sorry Unthought, had you 1.5 points too high.

Standings Update

1) gravy97 48.5

2) CheeseSndwch 47.5
Quinn 47.5

4) Ronnie 46
5) LHIOB 45

6) MooreTrucker 44.5
7) MuckRaker96 44
8) TheSheik 43
AcctAg11 43
10) Longhorn Nation 43

11) double aught 42
12) Pro Ag 40
kpaggie05 40

13) txaggiefarmer05 39
zap 39

15) Bobcat06 38
16) tallgrant 37
17) hurleyag 35.5
18) jdgilberg 35
19) Unthought Known 34.5
20) BlackLab 32

21) Moxie 31
22) salvatore_ditmars 30.5
23) ChipFTAC01 27.5
24) tx1c 25

Wtf? Seriously?

Sorry, Chip caught it, throw him under the bus

I am not paranoid. You people are out to get me.

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How many times have I found extra points for you? Don't get mad at me...

Chip won an advantage from Jeff Probst and stole your 1.5 points.

Alas, I'm the Abi Maria hanging around in this competition, only kept around because I'm not threat to win.

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Chip won an advantage from Jeff Probst and stole your 1.5 points.

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Man, I have yet to have a pick voted out and even got idol bonus points from Wentworth, but I'm still stuck in the middle of the pack. You guys are killing it.

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I am not paranoid. You people are out to get me.

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How many times have I found extra points for you? Don't get mad at me...

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Not blaming you. Blaming the asshat who keeps scoring me wrong.

I should've gone with Joe for the merge. He's a point machine!

So my wife just went nuts because Baylor from Friends and Family was in the bathroom line at Losers in Nashville. Its hilarious. If you are here come laugh at my wife. She called her a dumb *****. Booze is fun.

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I should've gone with Joe for the merge. He's a point machine!

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He's won 3 straight individual immunity idols. The record for a season is five (out of 7 challenges), held jointly by Colby from Outback, Terry Dietz from Panama, Ozzy from Cook Islands, Tom the Fireman from Palau, and Mike from last season.

MIke & Tom both won their seasons, Colby and Ozzy finished second by one vote apiece, and Terry finished third.

Colby won 5 straight but lost to Tina in the final.

Terry actually won 5 in a row, although one episode in that streak didn't have a challenge because another castaway was evacuated for a medical emergency.

Ozzy won 4 in a row leading up the final.

Joe won the first 2 of last season, then was voted out as soon as he didn't win. Mike won the last 3 in a row.

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Really shaking my head over last night's episode, where to begin?

First, Spencer should be voted off for being outswum by Fischback. How is that even possible?

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Who wasn't screaming "go, go, go" before Jeff even stopped talking? Spencer was an idiot for taking so long to react especially given the competition. More whining/crying/delusion now for Fish**** and we have to hear it for more episodes. I hate Spencer for that.

Abi/Fish****/Ciera, ugh.

I'm not sure how Fishes "advantage" would play out. I mean in the right circumstance it could be huge but isn't akin to really having two votes? Does he get to know the votes and then steal one? Not sure how exactly it would work?

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I'm not sure how Fishes "advantage" would play out. I mean in the right circumstance it could be huge but isn't akin to really having two votes? Does he get to know the votes and then steal one? Not sure how exactly it would work?

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didnt the texan blue collar guy (mike?) who won the most recent season get this same advantage? (i'm pretty sure he did but i cant remember the specifics.)

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I'm not sure how Fishes "advantage" would play out. I mean in the right circumstance it could be huge but isn't akin to really having two votes? Does he get to know the votes and then steal one? Not sure how exactly it would work?

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didnt the texan blue collar guy (mike?) who won the most recent season get this same advantage? (i'm pretty sure he did but i cant remember the specifics.)

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It seems like he had an extra vote, but I think the "steal someone else's vote" is new. And I think in this case it's works as basically replacing someone's vote with your own, eliminating a dissenting vote and doubling your own. I doubt they can use it after the votes are revealed, so it would be important to use it at a time when you're pretty certain who's votes are going where.

I hope they get rid of Fish before he can use it, but somehow he's pretty allied with Jeremy so I don't think it'll happen.

I remember Dan the crazy mailman had two votes, but I don't think that he got to cancel someone else's vote out.

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I remember Dan the crazy mailman had two votes, but I don't think that he got to cancel someone else's vote out.

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That is correct. This advantage is bigger bc you are canceling out someone else's vote. It's changes a vote from 1-1 to 2-0.