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I didn't have a problem with Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin or Jamie Foxx as Electro. Guess I'm just naive that I don't automatically assume non traditional casting is made because of some liberal PC 'hey look I have a black guy' pandering. I'll just sit over here and get stoked for bad ass actors suiting up for roles everyone else thinks they have no business being in.

So much this. Nobody cried PC when Sean Connery played an Egyptian/Spaniard in Highlander or a Russian submarine commander in The Hunt for Red October, and the guy didn't even bother speaking in a different accent for those roles.
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Well I did have a major issue with them making Red a black guy in Shawshank. I mean Morgan Freeman? C'mon. He added nothing. Should've been kept white like the book. Total stunt casting.
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That makes sense, but he does say "reworking" implying a different direction. From my understanding Donald has been voicing MM for a few months now. I wouldn't be surprised if they just met with him about potentially playing the part or getting his opinion on it. Still, I'll wait for a more reliable source than Chance to release any casting news.
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I didn't have a problem with Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin or Jamie Foxx as Electro. Guess I'm just naive that I don't automatically assume non traditional casting is made because of some liberal PC 'hey look I have a black guy' pandering. I'll just sit over here and get stoked for bad ass actors suiting up for roles everyone else thinks they have no business being in.

So much this. Nobody cried PC when Sean Connery played an Egyptian/Spaniard in Highlander or a Russian submarine commander in The Hunt for Red October, and the guy didn't even bother speaking in a different accent for those roles.
I thought Connery's role as The Spaniard in Highlander was laughable. That came out when I was a kid, though, so not too worried about it back then. I didn't even see it until the early 90's. THfRO, though, Connery did a good job, but yes, I thought that role was miscast, too, even though Connery is one of my favorite actors. He can't NOT do a Scottish accent it seems, like Mark Wahlberg and Matthew McConaughey always sound like themselves.

Thought Jamie Foxx was ridiculous as Electro, in general, regardless of being black. MCD was in Daredevil, not exactly a huge fan following for that back then, so I don't think anyone gave a dang about black vs white in that role. Hell, the whole movie was/is forgettable.


And it's okay for you to be naive. Maybe it'll let you enjoy what looks to be a crappy movie (the new FF) when it comes out.

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As long as the character has no back story tied to their race or ethnicity it shouldn't matter and I don't care.

I think Donald Glover could do it, but agree with those that away he is now too old for it if he is going to be playing it with the Avengers.
Whos Juan
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MCD was in Daredevil, not exactly a huge fan following for that back then, so I don't think anyone gave a dang about black vs white in that role.

So the PC motivation of the casting decisions is relative to how much you care about it. Got it.
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If Peter Parker was black, Mary Jane wouldn't be his love interest, if you know what I'm sayin
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THfRO, though, Connery did a good job, but yes, I thought that role was miscast



You take that back!
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Spider-Man just needs to be snarky and witty. I don't really care what he looks like otherwise. He just can't be Jaden Smith.

Johnny Storm being black is a big move if they keep him and Susan as siblings because it would be kids from an interracial marriage most likely, or adoption. No major problem with it but they'll obviously have to being it up on the movie.
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If Peter Parker was black, Mary Jane wouldn't be his love interest, if you know what I'm sayin


They could cast a girl Sir Mix-a-lot would be proud of.
Whos Juan
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BTW, all this talk about Donald Glover for the role and nothing about Italian Spiderman?
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Johnny Storm being black is a big move if they keep him and Susan as siblings because it would be kids from an interracial marriage most likely, or adoption. No major problem with it but they'll obviously have to being it up on the movie.
I agree with this. Making Johnny Storm black is about more than just "hey this guy is a good actor". There are a lot of good actors out there that are white. Or find a black actress to play Sue. As it is, it involves a change in the back story of two of the major characters.
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It'd be funny if they just never addressed the differing races of Sue and Johnny.

Maybe even have other characters make subtle jokes about it and have those fly over the siblings' heads.
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Just to break into the discussion here:

(Marvel related because he's Drax the Destroyer) Latino Review is reporting that Dave Bautista has been cast as The Kurgan in the Highlander remake. No one WILL EVER top Clancy Brown's iconic portrayal in the original, but I think Bautista is a great choice. Dude is on a roll right now.
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I'm excited to see Bautista in the new Bond film
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It'd be funny if they just never addressed the differing races of Sue and Johnny.

Maybe even have other characters make subtle jokes about it and have those fly over the siblings' heads.
it could be like the Vacation movies. except with different actors that are different races each time.
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Damn, were y'all this salty during the last FF movie when Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were siblings? Or does that not count cause those movies were bad?
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Just to break into the discussion here:

(Marvel related because he's Drax the Destroyer) Latino Review is reporting that Dave Bautista has been cast as The Kurgan in the Highlander remake. No one WILL EVER top Clancy Brown's iconic portrayal in the original, but I think Bautista is a great choice. Dude is on a roll right now.
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Damn, were y'all this salty during the last FF movie when Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were siblings? Or does that not count cause those movies were bad?
Jessica Alba is hot so she can be whatever she wants.
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Damn, were y'all this salty during the last FF movie when Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were siblings? Or does that not count cause those movies were bad?


Considering they dyed her hair blonde and that she doesn't have especially distinct Latin features to start with, not a really good comparison.

Also worth noting is that Jordan was also one of the bigger roles in Chronicle, which was directed by FF director Josh Trank. It may be a case of him really liking the actor as well as an attempt to be "cool" by the studio.
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THfRO, though, Connery did a good job, but yes, I thought that role was miscast



You take that back!

And he's not Russian. He's Lithuanian by birth, raised by his paternal grandfather, a fisherman.

It's a little known fact that all Lithuanian fishermen speak with what most would consider a Scottish accent.
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I think he's tied up with Hitch 2: Son Of A Hitch
that's well done right there
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And he's not Russian. He's Lithuanian by birth, raised by his paternal grandfather, a fisherman.

It's a little known fact that all Lithuanian fishermen speak with what most would consider a Scottish accent.

BigRobSA
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It's like in both "300" movies...all of the Greeks sounded like Brits. I've known numerous Greeks from Greece. Not a single one had a British accent.
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It's like in both "300" movies...all of the Greeks sounded like Brits. I've known numerous Greeks from Greece. Not a single one had a British accent.
To be fair, I doubt real Spartan soldiers from 500 B.C. would sound anything like the Greeks you know either...
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jeffk
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Next you shmucks are going to tell me that Moses sounded nothing like Charleton Heston.
BigRobSA
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It's like in both "300" movies...all of the Greeks sounded like Brits. I've known numerous Greeks from Greece. Not a single one had a British accent.
To be fair, I doubt real Spartan soldiers from 500 B.C. would sound anything like the Greeks you know either...
Which would be better....probably less gay-sounding.


Or maybe more, if 300 was an indicator.
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Next you shmucks are going to tell me that Moses sounded nothing like Charleton Heston.
No...he sounded like Val Kilmer. With a bit more of a stutter.

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Next you shmucks are going to tell me that Moses sounded nothing like Charleton Heston.

We should just cast Daniel Day Lewis in the role, somehow that guy will figure out exactly what Moses sounded like.
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And become Middle Eastern in the process.

And we have officially moved off of Marvel discussion
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Spider-Man will be black and Daniel Day Lewis will play his father.
jeffk
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Spider-Man will be black and Daniel Day Lewis will play his father.


PERFECT.
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Spider-Man will be a black WOMAN and Daniel Day Lewis will play his father.


FIFY?
Saxsoon
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But still called spiderman
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