I've often wondered what story J.J. intended to tell with the sequel trilogy, as opposed to what we ended up getting due to.....decisions that were made
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I think the main issue was that J.J. *didn't* have a larger story to tell. He's notoriously indecisive, and he and Kasdan were literally making it up even as they were shooting TFA. Rian Johnson starting working on TLJ summer '14, a full year and a half before TFA hit theaters, while TFA was still filming (and thus, while Abrams & Kasdan were still "playing jazz," so to speak). The problem was that Disney/Iger wanted "saga" films every two years this go around, instead of every three, as with the OT and PT, so writers/directors had to start working on the next movie long before the previous movie was even remotely finished. Which, of course, led to a lack of coherency and central authorship of the sequel trilogy as a whole.
So likes terrible leadership and decision making from the producer spot.
Just three simple men...
(RIP Jeremy Bulloch)
I'd like to see Muck answering all of these questions.
Well, the B wing looks like a T, so...
At about 7 minutes that dude says he thinks everyone has the potential to use the Force, they only need to be taught. That's fat BS
Good point about them still doing rewrites so late into the process on TFA, that does make it seem less likely he had a grand plan for the trilogy that he just wasn't able to enact.TCTTS said:
I think the main issue was that J.J. *didn't* have a larger story to tell. He's notoriously indecisive, and he and Kasdan were literally making it up even as they were shooting TFA. Rian Johnson starting working on TLJ summer '14, a full year and a half before TFA hit theaters, while TFA was still filming (and thus, while Abrams & Kasdan were still "playing jazz," so to speak). The problem was that Disney/Iger wanted "saga" films every two years this go around, instead of every three, as with the OT and PT, so writers/directors had to start working on the next movie long before the previous movie was even remotely finished. Which, of course, led to a lack of coherency and central authorship of the sequel trilogy as a whole.
And if that's true about Iger wanting to film every two years, than to me that directive from above removes a lot of the blame on Kennedy. She has still messed up quite a few times even outside of the trilogy, but someone is responsible for the ****up of the trilogy.
Agree
And this show was held out last week as an example of SW expanding the universe and getting beyond the movies.
Whoops it's just a Palpatine backstory show... Barf.
Whoops it's just a Palpatine backstory show... Barf.
Yeah, I totally misread that one. It would actually be pretty awesome if it was the inverse of The Mandalorian and Sheev Palpatine was the "the child."amercer said:
And this show was held out last week as an example of SW expanding the universe and getting beyond the movies.
Whoops it's just a Palpatine backstory show... Barf.
Lol
Guys, it is not about Palpatine. He is at MOST 60 years old in that movie, probably closer to 50, maybe even late 40's.
It would have to be about child Sheev, and that isn't going to happen. Now...Plageius? Possibly. But I doubt Sheev would play much of any role.
It would have to be about child Sheev, and that isn't going to happen. Now...Plageius? Possibly. But I doubt Sheev would play much of any role.
Which is why I originally mentioned Plagueis.
Wasn't directed at you...
Sure. He also died when the second Death Star went down....
OMG, it just hit me...it's supposed to be an all female cast directed by a female director, right? The main acolyte, whoever she is, is totally going to be Palps' slam piece and Rey's grandma. Sith master can probably look in his 30s when he's really 80.
I don't think it's an all female cast, but yeah, the lead is definitely supposed to be female. My gut says they never reference the Rey-Palpatine connection ever again, but Rey was such a popular character that yeah, I could also see them trying to make that connection.
Sheev was born in 84 bby and phantom menace is 32 bby.
According to...? Is there any reason to trust the Star Wars equivalent of a Dominican Republic player?
TCTTS said:
I misread this at first. 50 years from the END of the High Republic could make sense. The books and comics in the era are several hundred years before TPM, I believe.
While I'd like to see some more separation, this does admittedly solve some potential problems. Except for Yoda, it splits the casts from the other media from The Acolyte. It also opens up some narratives because I don't believe there is a large dark side threat in the High Republic era... could've wrong on that because I haven't started that yet.
I bet the Acolyte is about the Sith starting to execute their plan and the actual Acolyte is a Jedi who gets pulled into that orbit. Plagueis won't be the primary because he was never a Jedi, and a Munn doesn't make a great main character.
The show being more of a spy thriller would be pretty great
Is anything about Plagueis, other than what Palpatine says in 3, canon anymore? I know the author wrote the Tarkin book to try and keep his first book relevant, but isn't there now an even newer book that tosses that out the window?
Speak for yourself!AliasMan02 said:TCTTS said:
I misread this at first. 50 years from the END of the High Republic could make sense. The books and comics in the era are several hundred years before TPM, I believe.
While I'd like to see some more separation, this does admittedly solve some potential problems. Except for Yoda, it splits the casts from the other media from The Acolyte. It also opens up some narratives because I don't believe there is a large dark side threat in the High Republic era... could've wrong on that because I haven't started that yet.
I bet the Acolyte is about the Sith starting to execute their plan and the actual Acolyte is a Jedi who gets pulled into that orbit. Plagueis won't be the primary because he was never a Jedi, and a Munn doesn't make a great main character.
Man...I can't remember the last time Star Wars fans were THIS united and happy with something (Mandalorian finale). In fact I don't think it's EVER happened in my lifetime and only Rogue One came close to doing this.
Such a great time to be a Star Wars fan.
https://reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/kgxf6g/im_old/
Such a great time to be a Star Wars fan.
https://reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/kgxf6g/im_old/
amercer said:
Agree
I want to explore thousands of years in the past or the beginning of the Jedi and Sith.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Man...I can't remember the last time Star Wars fans were THIS united and happy with something (Mandalorian finale). In fact I don't think it's EVER happened in my lifetime and only Rogue One came close to doing this.
Such a great time to be a Star Wars fan.
https://reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/kgxf6g/im_old/
Oh the "intellectual artist types" are botching that Star Wars is self fellating themselves with the intro of Luke but screw em
If I see anyone try to imply that it was "deus ex machina" I know I can just mark them down as a dumbass who doesn't even know what the term actually means.
MuckRaker96 said:Speak for yourself!AliasMan02 said:TCTTS said:
I misread this at first. 50 years from the END of the High Republic could make sense. The books and comics in the era are several hundred years before TPM, I believe.
While I'd like to see some more separation, this does admittedly solve some potential problems. Except for Yoda, it splits the casts from the other media from The Acolyte. It also opens up some narratives because I don't believe there is a large dark side threat in the High Republic era... could've wrong on that because I haven't started that yet.
I bet the Acolyte is about the Sith starting to execute their plan and the actual Acolyte is a Jedi who gets pulled into that orbit. Plagueis won't be the primary because he was never a Jedi, and a Munn doesn't make a great main character.
Oh not that Munn
She excites munn calamari, if you catch my drift.
Official post on the Book of Boba Fett new series.
Can't wait for the Taratino episode.
That was my first thought when I saw rodriguez's name
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