There was no chosen one. Jedi were wrong.
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Give it time.Quote:
While Zahra did clean Kylo off and did not exhibit aggression toward him
Brian Earl Spilner said:Give it time.Quote:
While Zahra did clean Kylo off and did not exhibit aggression toward him
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Rey And Kylo Ren's Connection
Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.
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While Rey wasn't conceived without a father the way Anakin Skywalker supposedly was, it's revealed that her powers came as a result of the Cosmic Force, a.k.a. the will of the universe. That fell dormant once the Sith were defeated but reemerged once Luke went into exile and it became clear that the Galaxy needed a new protector. This goes some way in explaining why Rey is so powerful.
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so, she downloaded skillsTCTTS said:Quote:
Rey And Kylo Ren's Connection
Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.
TCTTS said:Quote:
Rey And Kylo Ren's Connection
Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.
So, Rey can thank a man for her power. Yes!!!
redline248 said:Quote:
While Rey wasn't conceived without a father the way Anakin Skywalker supposedly was, it's revealed that her powers came as a result of the Cosmic Force, a.k.a. the will of the universe. That fell dormant once the Sith were defeated but reemerged once Luke went into exile and it became clear that the Galaxy needed a new protector. This goes some way in explaining why Rey is so powerful.
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May not be my favorite thing either, but that is perfectly in line with canon from a dozen different sources, movies included.
Some great stuff in that novelization, apparently.
TCTTS said:Quote:
Rey And Kylo Ren's Connection
Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.
The problem is that it still leaves Kylo Ren weak by comparison and doesn't provide Rey with a formidable villain to struggle against. She had to save him from Snoke's guards and then easily escaped.
What's left for Rey to fear at this point when she can seemingly defeat Ren whenever she wants to?
So she is the chosen one.
TV Casualty said:TCTTS said:Quote:
Rey And Kylo Ren's Connection
Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.
The problem is that it still leaves Kylo Ren weak by comparison and doesn't provide Rey with a formidable villain to struggle against. She had to save him from Snoke's guards and then easily escaped.
What's left for Rey to fear at this point when she can seemingly defeat Ren whenever she wants to?
She beat him twice and didn't deliver a kiling blow to finally end it.
He has a soft spot for her and won't kill her or let her die.
So there's only one thing left for them to do, it's to dingadangdongtheirdangalonglinglong.
the discussion about Luke and the comparison to King Arthur and other classic heroes after their hero journey has completed is terrific:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Also reminds me of Paul Atreides in the books after the first Dune.
Once. They didn't fight in TLJ.
That was probably my favorite bit of the whole panel.
Also, Mark's hilarious bit @ 43:15 about holo Luke growing enormous and attacking the at-at's.
Also, Mark's hilarious bit @ 43:15 about holo Luke growing enormous and attacking the at-at's.
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Rose was something of a divisive character in The Last Jedi but the book fleshes out her history, specifically with her sister Paige. We learn more about their family history on Otomok (which was ravaged by The First Order) and Rose frequently mentions Paige, giving her a larger role in the story as a result.
LuLz kEwL!
Went to preorder TLJ blu-ray this morning, and I notice the film is being panned in those user reviews as well (Best Buy, Target, Wal Mart, etc). The Internet is relentless.
Fear the wrath of a scorned fanboy.
Why are they so damned determined to push Rose?dromo07 said:Quote:
Rose was something of a divisive character in The Last Jedi but the book fleshes out her history, specifically with her sister Paige. We learn more about their family history on Otomok (which was ravaged by The First Order) and Rose frequently mentions Paige, giving her a larger role in the story as a result.
LuLz kEwL!
I feel like it's what most creative folks do when people don't like their stuff. I've seen it in musicians, film makers, and artists.
If someone doesn't like what they have created, it's that individual's fault and they just need to explain it more. Someone associated with TLJ felt Rose was (or is) key to the bigger story and because there was some sort of outcry, they need to fight back against that.
Talking out of the other side of my mouth, the internet makes this worse. The overall percentage of fans/viewers that have the true disdain for Rose is small compared to the whole. It just drives clicks and discussions (like us here).
If someone doesn't like what they have created, it's that individual's fault and they just need to explain it more. Someone associated with TLJ felt Rose was (or is) key to the bigger story and because there was some sort of outcry, they need to fight back against that.
Talking out of the other side of my mouth, the internet makes this worse. The overall percentage of fans/viewers that have the true disdain for Rose is small compared to the whole. It just drives clicks and discussions (like us here).
Because you stamp your card for two diversity stickers at one time.
It's like when A&M used to have the "Welcome to Texas A&M" video for freshmen in the 1990s with the sorority girl, the corps guy the Asian guy and the black girl in a wheelchair. The girl in the wheelchair was a triple-stamp, Ray Bowen must have felt like he had won the lotto when he saw her at the auditions.
It's like when A&M used to have the "Welcome to Texas A&M" video for freshmen in the 1990s with the sorority girl, the corps guy the Asian guy and the black girl in a wheelchair. The girl in the wheelchair was a triple-stamp, Ray Bowen must have felt like he had won the lotto when he saw her at the auditions.
True story (as told to me and the rest of a class by an A&M professor): When A&M was hiring the women's bball coach prior to Gary Blair, Blair was actually a candidate. Peggie Gillom was hired because she was a woman, and black. 2 birds with one stone, and all.
I finally rewatched TLJ last night and boy do I really really like this movie. This was only the second watch for me but the script really stood out this time with some great lines, key themes it kept going back to, meta call outs to the audience, interesting hero arcs for Finn and Poe, and surprisingly successful connections of the PT and OT. Heck, and I'm sure some here will sigh about this, but even the Holdo/Poe dynamic stood out to me as well done this go around. I originally had thought Holdo made a huge error in being so unforthcoming and was just swinging her dick around, but now I see her as that gruff General that dresses down her subordinates who don't fall in line. I still think she ultimately made a mistake by not including the right people in her plan, but I get where she's coming from.
And what makes this film so great in my eyes, and why I'm certain it's going to get better with age, is that it's ultimately a character driven story with the main theme being "mistakes". Its also part of the reason I think so many people feel so negatively about the film - it's not an easy pill to swallow when you expect a light popcorn blockbuster. But just about everyone in and around this story f's up and they (and us as the audience) have to reflect on the consequences of those errors and ultimately grow from them (literally the mirror cave sequence). The Jedi Orders mistakes in allowing the Sith and Empire to rise, Luke's failure in raising the next gen of Jedis, Holdos failure to keep the fleet and her subordinates intact and inline, Finn and Roses failed mission, Poe's (he gets a few), Rey's mistaken belief she could change Kylo for the better. It's a tragic story with enough redemption and growth to give us a spark of hope at the end.
I'm going to have to read the script itself since this is a movie that sits with me long after watching.
And what makes this film so great in my eyes, and why I'm certain it's going to get better with age, is that it's ultimately a character driven story with the main theme being "mistakes". Its also part of the reason I think so many people feel so negatively about the film - it's not an easy pill to swallow when you expect a light popcorn blockbuster. But just about everyone in and around this story f's up and they (and us as the audience) have to reflect on the consequences of those errors and ultimately grow from them (literally the mirror cave sequence). The Jedi Orders mistakes in allowing the Sith and Empire to rise, Luke's failure in raising the next gen of Jedis, Holdos failure to keep the fleet and her subordinates intact and inline, Finn and Roses failed mission, Poe's (he gets a few), Rey's mistaken belief she could change Kylo for the better. It's a tragic story with enough redemption and growth to give us a spark of hope at the end.
I'm going to have to read the script itself since this is a movie that sits with me long after watching.
It looks like I'm somehow getting this a few days early. Anyone else? Pre-ordered via Best Buy...
Nice! Mine will barely ship today.
Small chance I get it Monday, like Thor.
Small chance I get it Monday, like Thor.
I'd heard good things about Jason Fry's novelization of TLJ, and just started the audio book yesterday. So far, it's great. There's a prelude and a couple of chapters before we even get to the opening of the movie. Fills in a lot.
Mine shipped a few days ago, supposedly, but no idea when it gets here. Ordered on Disney.
AliasMan02 said:
I'd heard good things about Jason Fry's novelization of TLJ, and just started the audio book yesterday. So far, it's great. There's a prelude and a couple of chapters before we even get to the opening of the movie. Fills in a lot.
Interesting. I enjoy most of the books, however I have stayed away from the novelizations of the movies as I think they should stand on their own.
I agree, and I'd say this info (so far) is all EXTRA material, like the rest of the new expanded canon. Not something required to appreciate the movies, but with value.Pro Ag said:AliasMan02 said:
I'd heard good things about Jason Fry's novelization of TLJ, and just started the audio book yesterday. So far, it's great. There's a prelude and a couple of chapters before we even get to the opening of the movie. Fills in a lot.
Interesting. I enjoy most of the books, however I have stayed away from the novelizations of the movies as I think they should stand on their own.
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