Dammit! I knew I missed something there

JJ use of hyperspace was something.

"There's no way we can get in, they have shields! Shields don't block hyperspace."

Han didn't hit anything.

He was inside a ship... he had to have hit something in order to get out

Solo still in post?

I may be rationalizing, but I could buy into the getting through the shield thing. With the "fractional refresh rate" Han mentioned, just think of it as going through an enormous fan. If you're going fast enough, you'll make it through unscathed.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I may be rationalizing, but I could buy into the getting through the shield thing. With the "fractional refresh rate" Han mentioned, just think of it as going through an enormous fan. If you're going fast enough, you'll make it through unscathed.

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The bigger issue to me seemed to be the idea that traveling at lightspeed and hyperspace are different things. Not that it's a huge problem or anything, just a little inconsistent. Happens in RO as well.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I may be rationalizing, but I could buy into the getting through the shield thing. With the "fractional refresh rate" Han mentioned, just think of it as going through an enormous fan. If you're going fast enough, you'll make it through unscathed.

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The bigger issue there is how the hell they were able to come out of light speed manually (Chewie pushes the button) between the shield and the planet's surface and then pull up without crashing. The timing would have to be perfect to the....I don't know, nanosecond might not be exact enough. But that is at least something that isn't going to be tried again

The jumping to light speed from a sitting position is I think more long term problematic as it really changes chase sequences like the Falcon escape from Mos Easley. Even Rogue One gets sketchy with the U-wing jumping to lightspeed (without a full nap computer calculation) from within the atmosphere to escape the Deat Star destroying Jedha City

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The bigger issue there is how the hell they were able to come out of light speed manually (Chewie pushes the button) between the shield and the planet's surface and then pull up without crashing. The timing would have to be perfect to the....I don't know, nanosecond might not be exact enough. But that is at least something that isn't going to be tried again

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Chewie is one hell of a pilot. Chewie > Poe. Make sure to let Finn know.

CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING?!?!?!

In Rebels, Hera jumps to lightspeed and passes through a ship with open bay doors on both sides. I think we are operating under Disney rules now.

AliasMan02 said:

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Solo still in post?

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Please not be post Solo and actually the pre Willow 2!

TCTTS said:

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Seriously, though, this feels a bit like a the-Russian-is-bleeding type moment. Jumanji went up against TLJ, proved that other blockbusters can compete with Star Wars, and now they're doing the exact same thing again. Star Wars simply isn't the invincible monster it used to be.

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TFA was the long awaited return of a beloved franchise with a movie that was really good and loved by fans.

TLJ was an incredibly divisive movie with fans while Jumani was a fun movie. Let's not pretend this is some "David slays Goliath" moment.

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AliasMan02 said:

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Solo still in post?

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Please not be post Solo and actually the pre Willow 2!

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Looks like Wicket's dad is going to be in the Solo film.

TCTTS said:

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Seriously, though, this feels a bit like a the-Russian-is-bleeding type moment. Jumanji went up against TLJ, proved that other blockbusters can compete with Star Wars, and now they're doing the exact same thing again. Star Wars simply isn't the invincible monster it used to be.

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Goes with what I have been saying when everyone trots out box office returns for TLJ to say its a small minority who didnt like this movie. It's not a small minority. It is being covered for unlike any movie I've ever seen. And the long term fallout of this will not be realized until subsequent releases.

I have faith JJ Abrams will pull this out and the word of mouth will help with ticket sales, but unless they explicitly come out and say prior to the premier that they've heard the complaints and they're addressing them in this movie, then the opening weekend on episode IX will disappoint greatly.

The Rian Johnson trilogy will bomb (for star wars) unless the word of mouth saves it. Lot of people will refuse to go see that until they hear from others whether it's worth it or not.

Madmartigan doesn't look too good anymore.

bangobango said:

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TCTTS said:

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Seriously, though, this feels a bit like a the-Russian-is-bleeding type moment. Jumanji went up against TLJ, proved that other blockbusters can compete with Star Wars, and now they're doing the exact same thing again. Star Wars simply isn't the invincible monster it used to be.

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Goes with what I have been saying when everyone trots out box office returns for TLJ to say its a small minority who didnt like this movie. It's not a small minority. It is being covered for unlike any movie I've ever seen. And the long term fallout of this will not be realized until subsequent releases.

I have faith JJ Abrams will pull this out and the word of mouth will help with ticket sales, but unless they explicitly come out and say prior to the premier that they've heard the complaints and they're addressing them in this movie, then the opening weekend on episode IX will disappoint greatly.

The Rian Johnson trilogy will bomb (for star wars) unless the word of mouth saves it. Lot of people will refuse to go see that until they hear from others whether it's worth it or not.

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I actually think Rian Johnson will do well with a trilogy with new characters. The story will have an end in mind with the movies to support the idea.

A major problem many have with TLJ is how disjointed it is from the OT and even with TFA due to no skeletal structure of episodes 7-9.

Another positive is the fact JJ pitched his ep9 movie right after TLJ and the criticisms started coming out. it almost had a 'relax Disney, I have a story to fix it' vibe to it.

I think it's going to take multiple flops in a row to hurt the SW franchise. If Han Solo and IX are both terrible, then you can probably signal the warning flag for Johnson's trilogy.

My biggest gripe with TLJ was the tone of the film. That's not something Johnson can blame on the prior film; he just flopped all on his own. I hope it doesn't carryforward to his trilogy.

If they did that, I would hope it was literally him walking by in the background somewhere in Tatooine. That could be cool.

I hope not... unless it's a small part where Obi meets Chewbacca.




but even then it would feel like a forced connection (ha, see what I did there)

Maybe Obi has some dealings with a mutual character that deals with Solo. Maybe it helps set up Obi's movie. Maybe we get Obi vs Boba lightsaber duel that after the Obi vs Jango ended too quickly.

I thought in the Force Awakens, Han jumped the Falcon through closed hangar doors?

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I hope not... unless it's a small part where Obi meets Chewbacca.




but even then it would feel like a forced connection (ha, see what I did there)

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I doubt Solo takes his story all the way up to that point. If they do, that movie will cover a TON of ground, since it basically starts with Han as a kid, it seems.

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Flashdiaz said:

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I hope not... unless it's a small part where Obi meets Chewbacca.




but even then it would feel like a forced connection (ha, see what I did there)

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I doubt Solo takes his story all the way up to that point. If they do, that movie will cover a TON of ground, since it basically starts with Han as a kid, it seems.

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I doubt it too. I was alluding to some that speculate that obi-wan seems to know Chewbacca in the cantina, as if they've met before.

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Solo still in post?

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We're 4 months out, I'd be amazed if they were done with post at this point. Even early April wouldn't be shocking.

Not sure what the big deal is about Jumanji sequel.


The three holiday weeks from mid December through after the new year average $400-500M per week in box office.


that's $1.2-1.3 BILLION domestic up for grabs.

They aren't going to sit back and let SW take it all....and it wouldn't anyway.

TFA took $770 million its first three weeks. that's huge but there was still another 530M up for grabs that year.

And TLJ took $540M leaving another $660M+ for someone.

another blockbuster is not crazy, counterprogramming works and especially if it is also family oriented. I know my family usually sees 2-3 different movies in that period.