aggie1906 said:
The red to show there is evil in everyone. That is why the Jedi must end. It set a standard that was unable to be kept which lead to the rise of the sith & dark side.
no. on what basis do you come up with that?SpreadsheetAg said:If the premise is that there originally was no light and dark, then the "dark side" must be embraced within the force teachings to counterbalance the light, yes?SeattleAgJr said:
Enough of the stupid flirting with the Dark Side crap in al of the Star Wars lore.
If it is that easy to fall prey to the Dark Side, it is a good thing the Jedi Knights were wiped out and should be prevented from being reestablished.
I hope they do not go this route with even a temporary flirtation of this tired clich e.
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Some of the garbage referenced in Aftermath.Brian Earl Spilner said:
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
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In practice, it seems the classical understanding from the OT is pretty much unchanged. People who are Force Sensitive are sensitive to both Light and Dark. The Dark Side actively seeks to corrupt Light Siders (novelizations of RotJ and TFA are the strongest examples, when the Dark Side actively tempts Luke and Rey, respectively). Most of the abilities are the same (telekinesis, telepathy, farsight) some are exclusive to Dark Siders (Force lightning), some are exclusive to Light Siders (Force ghost, and Vader says that the "mind trick" is not a power of the Dark Side, but that seems iffy to me), and some are on the spectrum but lean one way or the other (Force choke).Brian Earl Spilner said:
I'll be honest, that goes entirely against my understanding of the nature of the light and dark side. But interesting if so.
Kind of crazy this kind of stuff can still be debated 40 years after it was created.
AliasMan02 said:
In practice, it seems the classical understanding from the OT is pretty much unchanged. People who are Force Sensitive are sensitive to both Light and Dark. The Dark Side actively seeks to corrupt Light Siders (novelizations of RotJ and TFA are the strongest examples, when the Dark Side actively tempts Luke and Rey, respectively). Most of the abilities are the same (telekinesis, telepathy, farsight) some are exclusive to Dark Siders (Force lightning), some are exclusive to Light Siders (Force ghost, and Vader says that the "mind trick" is not a power of the Dark Side, but that seems iffy to me), and some are on the spectrum but lean one way or the other (Force choke).
The difference comes down to origin. If the Cosmic Force (which is what people are talking about when they just refer to "The Force") is the energy field created by life that binds the universe together, and the Living Force is the sort of higher plane of the Light Side, then it makes sense that the Dark Side is a corruption by one or both of those things.
Then there's the question of the beings "in the middle" like Bendu or Father. Do they just draw on the Cosmic Force but not the Living Force or the Dark Side? Do they draw from all aspects of the Force?
The canon of what the Force actually is is really murky. However, I believe that the answer to that question is going to be set up by TLJ, and be answered in Episode IX (with a lot of fallout to the revelation).
AliasMan02 said:In practice, it seems the classical understanding from the OT is pretty much unchanged. People who are Force Sensitive are sensitive to both Light and Dark. The Dark Side actively seeks to corrupt Light Siders (novelizations of RotJ and TFA are the strongest examples, when the Dark Side actively tempts Luke and Rey, respectively). Most of the abilities are the same (telekinesis, telepathy, farsight) some are exclusive to Dark Siders (Force lightning), some are exclusive to Light Siders (Force ghost, and Vader says that the "mind trick" is not a power of the Dark Side, but that seems iffy to me), and some are on the spectrum but lean one way or the other (Force choke).Brian Earl Spilner said:
I'll be honest, that goes entirely against my understanding of the nature of the light and dark side. But interesting if so.
Kind of crazy this kind of stuff can still be debated 40 years after it was created.
The difference comes down to origin. If the Cosmic Force (which is what people are talking about when they just refer to "The Force") is the energy field created by life that binds the universe together, and the Living Force is the sort of higher plane of the Light Side, then it makes sense that the Dark Side is a corruption by one or both of those things.
Then there's the question of the beings "in the middle" like Bendu or Father. Do they just draw on the Cosmic Force but not the Living Force or the Dark Side? Do they draw from all aspects of the Force?
The canon of what the Force actually is is really murky. However, I believe that the answer to that question is going to be set up by TLJ, and be answered in Episode IX (with a lot of fallout to the revelation).
It's also referenced in the Palpatine cahpters in Tarkin (I'm reading them now)...SeattleAgJr said:Some of the garbage referenced in Aftermath.Brian Earl Spilner said:
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this is exactly my interpretation of it. Explains that 'light' and 'dark' happen as part of the normal process of the force. But to alter it for personal gain is considered 'dark' because it manipulates the force.redline248 said:
From someone who had not read as much of the material as Alias, I always thought the dark side was just what happened when a force user bent the force to his or her desires, rather than letting the force be the thing guiding the actions. So, it was the user corrupting the force, and not the other way around.
SpreadsheetAg said:M night shyamalan The VillageYouBet said:Gut reaction:Brian Earl Spilner said:
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Not loving that poster, I'll be honest.
Doesn't quite feel like Star Wars to me.
Red Riding Hood, or
That recent Handmaidens Tale that's all abuzz in the female apocalyptic genre
Is this your favorite beer?Quote:
Not much makes me laugh these days...
Check and check.aggie1906 said:
Anyone who has a young girl and is nerdy enough to read this thread is going to really appreciate that.
Belton Ag said:Check and check.aggie1906 said:
Anyone who has a young girl and is nerdy enough to read this thread is going to really appreciate that.
Me too! Two daughters. Hell even the dog is a female. I feel you, bro.oldarmyag08 said:Belton Ag said:Check and check.aggie1906 said:
Anyone who has a young girl and is nerdy enough to read this thread is going to really appreciate that.
I have two daughters, I'm out numbered 3:1. I'm surrounded by pink and barbies. Maybe I have finally went over the edge.
Me three... wife, 2 girls, girl dog.... FMLBelton Ag said:Me too! Two daughters. Hell even the dog is a female. I feel you, bro.oldarmyag08 said:Belton Ag said:Check and check.aggie1906 said:
Anyone who has a young girl and is nerdy enough to read this thread is going to really appreciate that.
I have two daughters, I'm out numbered 3:1. I'm surrounded by pink and barbies. Maybe I have finally went over the edge.
