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Brian Earl Spilner
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So... Time to worry?

Not that I was ever that into this series.
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So this is Rogue One tradition at this point, right?

Also, can't wait for the interview where Gilroy can't stop talking about how beneath him the project is
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The opposite now, I think. Gilroy is a game changer. Sounds like the project was in trouble and they went back to the same well as last time (with Rogue One), he said ok, and now it's all systems go once again.
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I honestly think it's good for the franchise overall. It obviously needs filmmakers who are fans but it also needs filmmakers who aren't. It needs an objectivity from time to time that a more "serious" filmmaker can bring.
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I'd watch 60 minutes of K2SO reading the phone book.
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TCTTS said:

I honestly think it's good for the franchise overall. It obviously needs filmmakers who are fans but it also needs filmmakers who aren't. It needs an objectivity from time to time than a more "serious" filmmaker can bring.
Yep. For Star Wars to really branch out beyond the saga, it needs to be able to tell great stories that take place in the Star Wars galaxy, not just great Star Wars stories.

I know this is not the most popular opinion, but part of this needs to involve lots of stories that don't involve the Jedi or Sith, or even really the Force as a major player. The Force is a huge part of that universe, obviously, but it's not the only thing that can drive the plot and it can be a bit of a crutch. I think you're only going to really get that if you bring in outsiders.
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Well said.
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Thrawn or Doctor Aphra tv series would be freaking awesome.
While they both circle the time period of the OT, they are much more character driven with very little "The Force" plotting
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AliasMan02 said:

TCTTS said:

I honestly think it's good for the franchise overall. It obviously needs filmmakers who are fans but it also needs filmmakers who aren't. It needs an objectivity from time to time than a more "serious" filmmaker can bring.
Yep. For Star Wars to really branch out beyond the saga, it needs to be able to tell great stories that take place in the Star Wars galaxy, not just great Star Wars stories.

I know this is not the most popular opinion, but part of this needs to involve lots of stories that don't involve the Jedi or Sith, or even really the Force as a major player. The Force is a huge part of that universe, obviously, but it's not the only thing that can drive the plot and it can be a bit of a crutch. I think you're only going to really get that if you bring in outsiders.


I agree. My question to the group is this: Is this an issue for the fans or is this an issue for Disney? It seems most fans like non-Jedi and Sith and good stories plenty. I think Disney needs to not worry about the "Skywalker Saga" and just make good diverse movies.
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Dekker_Lentz said:





I agree. My question to the group is this: Is this an issue for the fans or is this an issue for Disney? It seems most fans like non-Jedi and Sith and good stories plenty. I think Disney needs to not worry about the "Skywalker Saga" and just make good diverse movies.
It is an issue for the fans, moreso than Disney, but Disney will be in conservative mode for a while around Star Wars due to recent events.

Star Wars can be successful outside the Skywalker saga, but Disney will need to be slow and deliberate, since they jettisoned all of the EU. They cannot rush to their Justice League.

The Marvel Studios method is a smart move. Start "small" and grow it.

The vast majority of the audience did not know who Iron Man was or had only the vaguest familiarity with him.
But there was small base of fans who did, who helped spread the word, and helped to fill in story gaps.

Then you add a captain america. And then a Thor..

Now I am not necessarily talking about specific characters for SW, but it could work. Or replace "characters: with stories/events, and build it up, even if set in different time periods.

Fans want some familiarity and continuity, even if minimal, so that is the way to make it work, in my mind.


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Dekker_Lentz said:

AliasMan02 said:

TCTTS said:

I honestly think it's good for the franchise overall. It obviously needs filmmakers who are fans but it also needs filmmakers who aren't. It needs an objectivity from time to time than a more "serious" filmmaker can bring.
Yep. For Star Wars to really branch out beyond the saga, it needs to be able to tell great stories that take place in the Star Wars galaxy, not just great Star Wars stories.

I know this is not the most popular opinion, but part of this needs to involve lots of stories that don't involve the Jedi or Sith, or even really the Force as a major player. The Force is a huge part of that universe, obviously, but it's not the only thing that can drive the plot and it can be a bit of a crutch. I think you're only going to really get that if you bring in outsiders.


I agree. My question to the group is this: Is this an issue for the fans or is this an issue for Disney? It seems most fans like non-Jedi and Sith and good stories plenty. I think Disney needs to not worry about the "Skywalker Saga" and just make good diverse movies.
Mando is a good test case for this, as I'd be shocked if we see any Force use at all and it definitely won't tie in with the saga. And, I think the focus on series instead of features allows for WAY more freedom in this regard.

There are a lot of good Force stories to be told, btw. Any Old Republic movie or series will be bonkers with the Force, and that can be great. Seriously, likely the majority of characters in any such project will be Jedi, Sith, or something in between. There's just more out there.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Why is he so mad, though?
Brian Earl Spilner
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I can only assume he must be putting up with a lot of fan hate?

I haven't seen Rebels, but it's not like I'd ever go after him if I disliked it.
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Pretty funny
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I mean... I liked that rant.
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"That armor's too strong for antlers! Rudolph Group, go for the legs, use your tinsel and ornaments!"



Brian Earl Spilner
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5 days!

CJS4715
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Mickey is printing some cash on Monday.
TCTTS
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That was amazing. And actually informative as well.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/star-wars-stars-adam-driver-mark-hamill-teamed-up-find-lost-dog-1247687
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TCTTS said:

That was amazing. And actually informative as well.


The problem with the "gamification" of Star Wars is something often talked about by Lucasfilm people. Basically they say there are no discrete POWERS, there's just the Force. Like FPJ says, you don't level up.
Brian Earl Spilner
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(It gets pretty specific. Avoid watching if you prefer being 100% unspoiled before riding.)
OnlyForNow
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dude said at-ats and not A-Tee - A-Tee.


But OMG.... I just found out I'll be in Boca Raton next Dec. for a cousin's wedding and this is DEFINITELY going to turn into a family vacation.
CJS4715
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At-Ats
Brian Earl Spilner
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AT-AT's

You don't say at-stuh's.
CJS4715
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You're right. They are chicken walkers.
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CJS4715 said:

At-Ats


https://shirt.woot.com/offers/at-at
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It's At-At, not A . T. A. T.




TCTTS
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This would have been a cool little change that would have given Anakin more motivation to kill her...

MuckRaker96
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Would Anakin's dragon have melted the Iron Throne after she stabbed him?
TCTTS
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Now you've got me thinking how amazing the Star Wars saga could be retold in a serious, adult, Game-of-Thrones-style across multiple seasons...
MuckRaker96
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bleah. star wars should stay as is.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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I'm hoping the D&D movies can be a LOTR style epic trilogy.
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