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AgMarauder04 said:

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fig96 said:

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AgMarauder04 said:

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Enough people from that world take to Twitter to tell us how to think and act. Like it or not, that's a fact. Tran was a pretty awful part of TLJ, bit what happened to her is wrong, but there is a role Hollywood played in the degeneration of civility. Not as much as Washington, but still.

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Dude, give me a break.

Someone on Twitter "told you" how to act? So ignore them. Don't read what they said. Not hard.

Now go ignore thousands of people attacking you personally on every social media channel. Not even kind of the same thing.

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You're right Hollywood is the victim. They are all wonderful people who are what we should all aspire to be like. How could I dare question their magnificence?

Please forgive my ignorance.

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Not even remotely what I said or even implied, but whatever. You make it really easy to ignore your opinion when you post comments like this.

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AgMarauder04 said:

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How about we move on and not attempt to argue fruitlessly on an anonymous message board over something that, in all likelihood, as very little impact on our lives as a whole? I have one opinion, you have another. Let's just leave it at that.

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Belton Ag said:

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fig96 said:

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AgMarauder04 said:

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fig96 said:

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AgMarauder04 said:

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Enough people from that world take to Twitter to tell us how to think and act. Like it or not, that's a fact. Tran was a pretty awful part of TLJ, bit what happened to her is wrong, but there is a role Hollywood played in the degeneration of civility. Not as much as Washington, but still.

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Dude, give me a break.

Someone on Twitter "told you" how to act? So ignore them. Don't read what they said. Not hard.

Now go ignore thousands of people attacking you personally on every social media channel. Not even kind of the same thing.

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You're right Hollywood is the victim. They are all wonderful people who are what we should all aspire to be like. How could I dare question their magnificence?

Please forgive my ignorance.

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Not even remotely what I said or even implied, but whatever. You make it really easy to ignore your opinion when you post comments like this.

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I think the overall point is that the social media world is a toxic cesspool and that Hollywood types are knee deep in the cesspool and help stoke it all - and they do, there are too many examples to count but you can start with Joss Whedon - and that the bottom line is that NONE of it is any good. There is a difference between Whedon wishing Trump to die or Paul Ryan to be raped by a Rhinoceros to what happened to Tran, yes, but it's all a part of the same scummy world. Ignoring Whedon's garbage and allowing it to continue in deference to Tran isn't going to help the problem.

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Belton Ag said:

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yes, but it's all a part of the same scummy world. Ignoring Whedon's garbage and allowing it to continue in deference to Tran isn't going to help the problem.

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Good guys, bad guys, made-up words.

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Although I am SUPER disappointed she's back for IX

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so does Thrawn make an appearance in TCW? At one point i think i remember a conversation about him knowing or meeting Anakin.

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AgMarauder04 said:

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The clip was good and the discussion warranted. I take some ownership for poor word choice in attempting to express that both sides have fault in the current climate.

But that horse is dead. Definitely time to move on.

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Although I am SUPER disappointed she's back for IX

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TCW news was pretty big, but again, Disney is playing it pretty safe returning to a familiar era. I am curious which show or movie will break the mold into an unfamiliar era.

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TCW news was pretty big, but again, Disney is playing it pretty safe returning to a familiar era. I am curious which show or movie will break the mold into an unfamiliar era.

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I don'the have any idea how it works with the authors, maybe they have been told not to work beyond the scope of episode 9 which could be limiting them. I am hopeful we can get something different once episode 9 is out.

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Although I am SUPER disappointed she's back for IX

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Maybe JJ will take us to Tatooine and she'll fall into the pit of the Sarlacc

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A early, hilarious death would make me damn day.

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Agreed. But in all fairness, Hollywood is getting a dose of what conservatives have been getting for decades. This is what Ag Marauder and CJS4715 are trying to point out. I think.

For example, I am opposed to illegal immigration. A massive swath of this country will call me a xenophobic, racist, backwards, redneck, because of this. In my world I am like, hold on, wait a moment, I have legitimate reasons I would be happy to discuss and debate, but you've just labeled me Hitler. And for crying out loud I am married to a Latina that grew up on the border. It hurts. It sucks. It makes you feel like complete sh** when people who don't know you, don't know a damn thing about what lies in your heart, completely eviscerate you.

That's the whole drag with this hyper sensitive BS culture this country is embracing. Roseanne should not have been fired, IMO. Gunn should not have been fired, IMO. Personally attacking that chick that played Rose in TLJ, or Boyega, or for the love of Christ, the absolutely demented level of hate thrown at George Lucas, Rian Johnson, etc, it's just simply unacceptable in what should be a polite society.

Everyone needs to chill the F out. Seriously.

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I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.

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Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.

You don't like what they're saying, feel they're "lecturing" (which IMO is pretty rare but to each their own), or whatever, then you're totally entitled to that. Don't buy the product/watch the show/play the game. Problem solved.

The way people are using the medium isn't making people "uncomfortable", it's making them often feel targeted, abused, unsafe, and worse. There's a massive difference between discussing or making your opinion known and making people who created something the targets of abuse.

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Agreed. But in all fairness, Hollywood is getting a dose of what conservatives have been getting for decades. This is what Ag Marauder and CJS4715 are trying to point out. I think.

For example, I am opposed to illegal immigration. A massive swath of this country will call me a xenophobic, racist, backwards, redneck, because of this. In my world I am like, hold on, wait a moment, I have legitimate reasons I would be happy to discuss and debate, but you've just labeled me Hitler. And for crying out loud I am married to a Latina that grew up on the border. It hurts. It sucks. It makes you feel like complete sh** when people who don't know you, don't know a damn thing about what lies in your heart, completely eviscerate you.

That's the whole drag with this hyper sensitive BS culture this country is embracing. Roseanne should not have been fired, IMO. Gunn should not have been fired, IMO. Personally attacking that chick that played Rose in TLJ, or Boyega, or for the love of Christ, the absolutely demented level of hate thrown at George Lucas, Rian Johnson, etc, it's just simply unacceptable in what should be a polite society.

Everyone needs to chill the F out. Seriously.

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See, I can't see how you can even look at those things and call them in any way similar. And I say that as someone who's pretty politicly moderate and was very conservative for a long time.

Yes, Hollywood typically leans liberal and has for a while for a number of reasons, and you see that more prominently in some aspects than others (talk shows and sketch comedy in particular). But are you really saying that people viciously attacking individuals via Twitter and other social media, launching campaigns to tank films because they don't like the direction (or even an executive) a studio has chosen, etc., is even remotely equivalent to that?

Our current political climate is garbage and doesn't actually encourage any discussion on issues where people are probably closer in opinion than not if they actually examined things, but that's a separate issue all together.

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AliasMan02 said:

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There is an Imperial remnant in the new canon, operating on Coruscant under NR supervision.

Just a tidbit.

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