Just realized that the new season of TCW likely means we get the episode(s) of Thrawn and Anakin crossing paths.
Ag Since 83 said:
I think that's all in the book, but maybe?
#1 said:
Meh. Not excited for this one after the turd that I saw last December. I'm going to wait for the reviews from this board before I consider seeing it.
I highly recommend taking the three minutes to listen to this because his interpretation of what is happening, not just with "toxic fandom" but in society as a whole is completely spot on. All of this toxic fandom garbage is just one of many symptoms on display of what is essentially an acceptance of fringe behavior, if not the encouragement of it.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Urban Ag said:I highly recommend taking the three minutes to listen to this because his interpretation of what is happening, not just with "toxic fandom" but in society as a whole is completely spot on. All of this toxic fandom garbage is just one of many symptoms on display of what is essentially an acceptance of fringe behavior, if not the encouragement of it.Brian Earl Spilner said:
It's not acceptable for grown men to endlessly cyber bully actors, at a personal level, because they're butthurt about a freaking SW movie.
It's not acceptable to throw public temper tantrums and scream and wail at the sky because your politician didn't get elected.
It's not acceptable to slander women on the internet because you're too pathetic to stand a chance at actually attracting a female.
It's not acceptable to violently protest when someone or some group expresses positions you don't agree with.
I could go on and on. This isn't just about pissed off nerds. It's everywhere. It's become part of normal American life and needs to be quashed.
and tbh, I think they're both wrong. "Elites" tend to think they're smarter than everyone else. when they deliver their message, it comes across as condescending, and now there's pushback.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
https://twitter.com/DelReyStarWarsPro Ag said:AliasMan02 said:
Alias - Do you have a single source on Twitter you use to hear about the new books? That guy tweets a lot so I wondered if you had another option.
I enjoy seeing the heads up here, however I like to stay away from high level spoilers so I don't spend much time on this thread.
Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
fig96 said:Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
You don't like what they're saying, feel they're "lecturing" (which IMO is pretty rare but to each their own), or whatever, then you're totally entitled to that. Don't buy the product/watch the show/play the game. Problem solved.
The way people are using the medium isn't making people "uncomfortable", it's making them often feel targeted, abused, unsafe, and worse. There's a massive difference between discussing or making your opinion known and making people who created something the targets of abuse.
Agreed. But in all fairness, Hollywood is getting a dose of what conservatives have been getting for decades. This is what Ag Marauder and CJS4715 are trying to point out. I think.fig96 said:Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
You don't like what they're saying, feel they're "lecturing" (which IMO is pretty rare but to each their own), or whatever, then you're totally entitled to that. Don't buy the product/watch the show/play the game. Problem solved.
The way people are using the medium isn't making people "uncomfortable", it's making them often feel targeted, abused, unsafe, and worse. There's a massive difference between discussing or making your opinion known and making people who created something the targets of abuse.
See, I can't see how you can even look at those things and call them in any way similar. And I say that as someone who's pretty politicly moderate and was very conservative for a long time.Urban Ag said:Agreed. But in all fairness, Hollywood is getting a dose of what conservatives have been getting for decades. This is what Ag Marauder and CJS4715 are trying to point out. I think.fig96 said:Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
You don't like what they're saying, feel they're "lecturing" (which IMO is pretty rare but to each their own), or whatever, then you're totally entitled to that. Don't buy the product/watch the show/play the game. Problem solved.
The way people are using the medium isn't making people "uncomfortable", it's making them often feel targeted, abused, unsafe, and worse. There's a massive difference between discussing or making your opinion known and making people who created something the targets of abuse.
For example, I am opposed to illegal immigration. A massive swath of this country will call me a xenophobic, racist, backwards, redneck, because of this. In my world I am like, hold on, wait a moment, I have legitimate reasons I would be happy to discuss and debate, but you've just labeled me Hitler. And for crying out loud I am married to a Latina that grew up on the border. It hurts. It sucks. It makes you feel like complete sh** when people who don't know you, don't know a damn thing about what lies in your heart, completely eviscerate you.
That's the whole drag with this hyper sensitive BS culture this country is embracing. Roseanne should not have been fired, IMO. Gunn should not have been fired, IMO. Personally attacking that chick that played Rose in TLJ, or Boyega, or for the love of Christ, the absolutely demented level of hate thrown at George Lucas, Rian Johnson, etc, it's just simply unacceptable in what should be a polite society.
Everyone needs to chill the F out. Seriously.
I can't recall any filmmaker or actor trying to actively ruin someone else's life.AgMarauder04 said:fig96 said:Sorry, but that sounds like one big defense of often indefensible actions. And the big difference is that you don't have to listen to Hollywood.CJS4715 said:
I agree with most of that, but I do want to make one deviation, Hollywood is a target, because they have used the pulpit for years to lecture others. Now, the tables have turned and the masses have a medium that allows them to attack back, and it is making people uncomfortable.
You don't like what they're saying, feel they're "lecturing" (which IMO is pretty rare but to each their own), or whatever, then you're totally entitled to that. Don't buy the product/watch the show/play the game. Problem solved.
The way people are using the medium isn't making people "uncomfortable", it's making them often feel targeted, abused, unsafe, and worse. There's a massive difference between discussing or making your opinion known and making people who created something the targets of abuse.
And MANY of them are using the same medium to attack and defame others as well. It's not one sided.
Dude, give me a break.AgMarauder04 said:
Enough people from that world take to Twitter to tell us how to think and act. Like it or not, that's a fact. Tran was a pretty awful part of TLJ, bit what happened to her is wrong, but there is a role Hollywood played in the degeneration of civility. Not as much as Washington, but still.
fig96 said:Dude, give me a break.AgMarauder04 said:
Enough people from that world take to Twitter to tell us how to think and act. Like it or not, that's a fact. Tran was a pretty awful part of TLJ, bit what happened to her is wrong, but there is a role Hollywood played in the degeneration of civility. Not as much as Washington, but still.
Someone on Twitter "told you" how to act? So ignore them. Don't read what they said. Not hard.
Now go ignore thousands of people attacking you personally on every social media channel. Not even kind of the same thing.
Ag Since 83 said:
Thrawn: Alliances is out
About 70 pages in and enjoying the mix of timelines
As Alias says, it jumps between the Clone Wars era and the Rebels era. If you have read Thrawn, they do mention Eli's disappearance from the fleet, and given where the novel takes place, I'm wondering if he is going to show up later in the book.AgMarauder04 said:
What's it about? What's the era?
Not even remotely what I said or even implied, but whatever. You make it really easy to ignore your opinion when you post comments like this.AgMarauder04 said:fig96 said:Dude, give me a break.AgMarauder04 said:
Enough people from that world take to Twitter to tell us how to think and act. Like it or not, that's a fact. Tran was a pretty awful part of TLJ, bit what happened to her is wrong, but there is a role Hollywood played in the degeneration of civility. Not as much as Washington, but still.
Someone on Twitter "told you" how to act? So ignore them. Don't read what they said. Not hard.
Now go ignore thousands of people attacking you personally on every social media channel. Not even kind of the same thing.
You're right Hollywood is the victim. They are all wonderful people who are what we should all aspire to be like. How could I dare question their magnificence?
Please forgive my ignorance.