Head Ninja In Charge said:

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tandy miller said:

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superunknown said:

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tandy miller said:

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Snacks will be nuts or something.

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Have you tried bofa yet?

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Bofa DeezNuts? Yeah, I serve them to your mom all the time.

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Perfect gif

"Sometimes I feel tired"

WebMD: it's cancer... of the anus

tandy miller said:

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superunknown said:

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tandy miller said:

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Snacks will be nuts or something.

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Have you tried bofa yet?

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Bofa DeezNuts? Yeah, I serve them to your mom all the time.

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LupinusTexensis said:

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I've done 2 rounds of 30 days of no added sugar/no alcohol.

Everything must be made from scratch and you must read labels religiously.

Both times I lost 10#. I always go back to the hard stuff though. I feel great during those 30 days, but I have a hard time with moderation when I enter back into the world of desserts. I've got quite a sweet tooth.

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You lost 10 lbs in a month?!?! Dang!

I have the sweet tooth problem as well. I need to lose about 15 lbs of gut to be cycling ready, but I just can't give up the sweet stuff.

LupinusTexensis said:

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Yeah I actively seek it out after every lunch and dinner. My meals don't feel complete unless I've had something sweet. Fruit doesn't cut it. During the first 10 days of the 30 I am like a raging alcoholic that's been cut off. The next 20 I'm good.

Whole 30 is never going to happen. I will never cut dairy from my diet. My Northern European ancestors didn't not evolve lactose tolerance over centuries just for me to flush it down the toilet.

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Preach, sista!

Sprouts has sugar free mayo that isn't bad, when we did the Whole30 we ended up just making sugar-free ketchup which was easy and decent. Costco has a bacon without added sugar. I drink my coffee black which for many seemed to be a hangup without adding sweetener.

Dropping corn and rice is what will really make a difference though; I didn't lose a lot of weight (5-6 lbs) but I went from 34" waist to 32" in 4 weeks.

Did you have to buy new pants? I do not want to buy new pants. I like the pants I have

I want to be able to fit in the pants I have....

tandy miller said:

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Im trying 30 days sugar free next month because I feel tired sometimes. Has anyone ever done this? Tips?

Tia

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Cutting sugar out of your diet is hard. It means you will have to prepare EVERYTHING. You will feel so phenomenal after a few weeks, though. The best way to pull it off is to get on a program like Whole 30 and follow the recipes. There are a million websites online for it too. Just spend Sunday doing all the shopping and prep work so it's easier to pull off during the week.

Dress pants I had still worked; I hadn't been buttoning the inside button (don't know what that is called). My jeans and shorts were an issue; I had to invest in some more casual belts and did buy couple pair of shorts. Had to buy all new swim trunks; don't need those falling off.

Whole 30 looks like it cuts dairy completely, which I do not want to do.

My plan is basically this:

-Shop/prep sunday (will be sat. this week since I am starting sunday)
-Buy everything whole (all meat unseasoned, all veggies raw)
-Drink water
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-Profit

*Like I said before, I'm most concerned w/ cutting out artificial/processed sugar. I realize that fruit, some veggies, dairy and grain contain NATURAL sugar. But even with the naturally occurring stuff I plan to keep the sugar content as low as possible.

What's the difference in natural vs added sugar, as far as how your body uses it or it's process in the body?

I dont believe anything.

tandy miller said:

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Whole 30 looks like it cuts dairy completely, which I do not want to do.

My plan is basically this:

-Shop/prep sunday (will be sat. this week since I am starting sunday)
-Buy everything whole (all meat unseasoned, all veggies raw)
-Drink water
-?
-Profit

*Like I said before, I'm most concerned w/ cutting out artificial/processed sugar. I realize that fruit, some veggies, dairy and grain contain NATURAL sugar. But even with the naturally occurring stuff I plan to keep the sugar content as low as possible.

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Just realize that sugars from fruit or other natural sources are metabolized the same as processed sugar. It's a myth that the two are fundamentally different.

However, I understand not wanting to cut out dairy. I can't live without cheese. Fully complying with Whole 30 is tough.

Woody2006 said:

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tandy miller said:

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Whole 30 looks like it cuts dairy completely, which I do not want to do.

My plan is basically this:

-Shop/prep sunday (will be sat. this week since I am starting sunday)
-Buy everything whole (all meat unseasoned, all veggies raw)
-Drink water
-?
-Profit

*Like I said before, I'm most concerned w/ cutting out artificial/processed sugar. I realize that fruit, some veggies, dairy and grain contain NATURAL sugar. But even with the naturally occurring stuff I plan to keep the sugar content as low as possible.

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Just realize that sugars from fruit or other natural sources are metabolized the same as processed sugar. It's a myth that the two are fundamentally different.

However, I understand not wanting to cut out dairy. I can't live without cheese. Fully complying with Whole 30 is tough.

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Im aware of the fact that all sugar is treated the same by the body. But I have to believe that eating a cup of tomatoes is better for you health wise than drinking a cup of Dr. Pepper. I'd also venture to say things that contain fake sugars have a lot of empty calories, and things that contain natural sugars are IN GENERAL more complete nutritionally

Naturally occurring versus added: naturally occurring is in lower levels and is usually in a complex food matrix (fiber from fruit for example), added is usually found in processed foods that don't have that fiber to slow down the absorption so it hits your body like a ton of bricks.

Thank you. Better than I could 'splain

It is fall.
I will not give up Mallowcreme pumpkins

October may not have been the smartest month to do this..

tandy miller said:

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Woody2006 said:

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tandy miller said:

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Whole 30 looks like it cuts dairy completely, which I do not want to do.

My plan is basically this:

-Shop/prep sunday (will be sat. this week since I am starting sunday)
-Buy everything whole (all meat unseasoned, all veggies raw)
-Drink water
-?
-Profit

*Like I said before, I'm most concerned w/ cutting out artificial/processed sugar. I realize that fruit, some veggies, dairy and grain contain NATURAL sugar. But even with the naturally occurring stuff I plan to keep the sugar content as low as possible.

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Just realize that sugars from fruit or other natural sources are metabolized the same as processed sugar. It's a myth that the two are fundamentally different.

However, I understand not wanting to cut out dairy. I can't live without cheese. Fully complying with Whole 30 is tough.

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Im aware of the fact that all sugar is treated the same by the body. But I have to believe that eating a cup of tomatoes is better for you health wise than drinking a cup of Dr. Pepper. I'd also venture to say things that contain fake sugars have a lot of empty calories, and things that contain natural sugars are IN GENERAL more complete nutritionally

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I'm not arguing the point. Sugar is bad for you in the levels consumed by most Americans. It is, however, utterly impossible to live out the rest of your life with no sugar intake whatsoever. If all you do is cut out added sugar you will be far healthier.

I'm glad to see threads like this and not just threads talking up donuts or candy bars.

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I will never cut dairy from my diet. My Northern European ancestors didn't not evolve lactose tolerance over centuries just for me to flush it down the toilet.

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I'm pretty sure if you are consuming it, you are flushing it down the toilet...

Did Whole30 back in July. Pain in the ass, but not too terrible. Alcohol was the hardest to give up.
Pederson's makes a sugar free bacon (yes, most bacon has sugar added) that is good.
Aidell's makes a chicken and apple sausage that is good.

We pretty much followed this since it makes the shopping list for you:
https://www.ourpaleolife.com/whole30-meal-plan-grocery-list/

If you aren't interested in giving up cheese/dairy, just add it to certain meals.

I also agree that going out to eat is a huge pain in the ass. You are limited to salad (only oil/vinegar as dressing) and a grilled meat.

I don't go out to eat very much.... I do, however eat out regularly. But that's sugar free.

Make sure you add a multivitamin to the mix. Or just the supplements you might need to help with absorption of the good vitamins and minerals to complete your diet.

I say that because one medication I take makes me lose sodium, magnesium, and potassium like running water. So I take a few vitamins to help keep the good stuff where it belongs.

April and June are the only months I've ever been successful at sticking to 30 completely sugar days- no birthdays or holidays (except sometimes Easter). Every other month I've been guilted into celebrating something with either alcohol or sugar, and once I break, I don't go back.

Just cut out the sugar that can be more easily managed like soda, candy, and desserts. Why go to the extreme like you're proposing to do?

No point doing it unless you're intending this as a permanent lifestyle change.

RealTalk said:

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No point doing it unless you're intending this as a permanent lifestyle change.

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I disagree.

And give up alcohol during football season???? Not a chance!

tandy miller said:

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RealTalk said:

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No point doing it unless you're intending this as a permanent lifestyle change.

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I disagree.

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It's true, though. You can give up this stuff for 30 days or whatever, and lose a buncha weight. But as soon as you go back, the weight will come back. Trust me, BTDT. Unless you're getting skinny for a special event and don't care after that, you have to make permanent changes.

If it's not permanent, why the heck do it? Once you reintroduce sugar back into your diet, you're going to end up back where you started.

MooreTrucker said:

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tandy miller said:

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RealTalk said:

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No point doing it unless you're intending this as a permanent lifestyle change.

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I disagree.

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It's true, though. You can give up this stuff for 30 days or whatever, and lose a buncha weight. But as soon as you go back, the weight will come back. Trust me, BTDT. Unless you're getting skinny for a special event and don't care after that, you have to make permanent changes.

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I'm not doing it to lose weight. I weigh maybe 130 soaking wet.

RealTalk said:

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If it's not permanent, why the heck do it? Once you reintroduce sugar back into your diet, you're going to end up back where you started.

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I want to see how dramatically different i feel health-wise (energy level, sleep, etc). And although completely processed sugar-free is infeasible for a permanent change, It will give me a baseline to compare to after the 30 days are over. After the 30 days, though I will eat processed sugar again, I will hopefully not eat nearly as much.

I'm actually quite skinny and wasn't trying to lose weight. I do it basically as a test of my self control.

Yes, let's discourage the guy from making healthy changes in his life because he may not make a long-term lifestyle change.

Why not just say, "ah **** it, you'll just be eating donuts and ice cream in a month or two so why even try?"

You don't make long-term lifestyle changes without actually giving those changes a chance. Maybe he will realize he feels better without sugar and keep it up. Maybe he'll just cut out added sugar most of the time. Either way, it will be a change for the better.

Woody2006 said:

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Why not just say, "ah **** it, you'll just be eating donuts and ice cream in a month or two so why even try?"

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That is exactly what I'm saying.

Either do it all the way or don't do it. Don't half-ass it.