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zephyr88 said:

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annie88 said:

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I just remember the picture of the four of them right after it was announced and he did not look happy. The other three did. Now he's not the biggest smiley guy to begin with, but it just always gave me the vibes of. "I'm not really liking this but I have a family and I need to keep my job and I guess this is where I'm going."

Now I'm sure he would've done his best there. I'm not saying that he wouldn't have, but I think he was very happy to be able to come back here and of course, being elevated to a head coaching position is always a good thing.

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He's not very expressive at all. Almost robotic. I can't tell if he's even 'in the game' about half the time.

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And you think sloshbutt is expressive? He always looks like he's about to take a ***** And it was funny watching him last night seeing how badly they played.

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12Power said:

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PS: Coach Earley STOP using the shift! You suck at it.

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Does anyone else not think this was a Pennnington thing? I feel like we did it a whole lot more once he came onboard...

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Eliminatus said:

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This season was such a roller coaster of a ride. High highs, and low lows. Our biggest problem was hopefully just corrected though our bats resetting for '27 is going to be very interesting to see.

This upcoming year is going to be a crucial one for Earley. I don't think any one can really contest that. Pumpers or otherwise. I doubt it's Omaha or bust, but if it is another year one style performance, it is going to get loud.

Despite the dooming going on (doubtless from personal biases running out of control), we had a good season and just ran into a buzz saw right when we were dipping at the wrong time. It sucks but it happens.

I'll say it. Earley was not my first choice. Coach I wanted, is in Omaha currently. But I wasn't consulted so I had to settle with him. Fair enough and again, it's been a roller coaster ride. Thankfully I can think for myself and watch my own games so the dooming slides off easily. I am grateful that yes, I saw an improvement in year two over year one.

To balance that out though, I will give my biggest con since he has been here. Our body language when we are down. I have never seen anything like that from any Aggie men's team. It is horrendous and I do think it has an effect on our play at the worst of times. And it is present on both sides of the ball.

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cevans_40 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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This season was such a roller coaster of a ride. High highs, and low lows. Our biggest problem was hopefully just corrected though our bats resetting for '27 is going to be very interesting to see.

This upcoming year is going to be a crucial one for Earley. I don't think any one can really contest that. Pumpers or otherwise. I doubt it's Omaha or bust, but if it is another year one style performance, it is going to get loud.

Despite the dooming going on (doubtless from personal biases running out of control), we had a good season and just ran into a buzz saw right when we were dipping at the wrong time. It sucks but it happens.

I'll say it. Earley was not my first choice. Coach I wanted, is in Omaha currently. But I wasn't consulted so I had to settle with him. Fair enough and again, it's been a roller coaster ride. Thankfully I can think for myself and watch my own games so the dooming slides off easily. I am grateful that yes, I saw an improvement in year two over year one.

To balance that out though, I will give my biggest con since he has been here. Our body language when we are down. I have never seen anything like that from any Aggie men's team. It is horrendous and I do think it has an effect on our play at the worst of times. And it is present on both sides of the ball.

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What buzzsaw did we run into? The almighty USC team that got bounced from the postseason as soon as they played a real team? We wilted like a wax flower in the sun. Outscored 21-4. Beaten like a red-headed, step-child. Absolutely, non-competitive, beatdown.

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cevans_40 said:

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Eliminatus said:

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This season was such a roller coaster of a ride. High highs, and low lows. Our biggest problem was hopefully just corrected though our bats resetting for '27 is going to be very interesting to see.

This upcoming year is going to be a crucial one for Earley. I don't think any one can really contest that. Pumpers or otherwise. I doubt it's Omaha or bust, but if it is another year one style performance, it is going to get loud.

Despite the dooming going on (doubtless from personal biases running out of control), we had a good season and just ran into a buzz saw right when we were dipping at the wrong time. It sucks but it happens.

I'll say it. Earley was not my first choice. Coach I wanted, is in Omaha currently. But I wasn't consulted so I had to settle with him. Fair enough and again, it's been a roller coaster ride. Thankfully I can think for myself and watch my own games so the dooming slides off easily. I am grateful that yes, I saw an improvement in year two over year one.

To balance that out though, I will give my biggest con since he has been here. Our body language when we are down. I have never seen anything like that from any Aggie men's team. It is horrendous and I do think it has an effect on our play at the worst of times. And it is present on both sides of the ball.

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What buzzsaw did we run into? The almighty USC team that got bounced from the postseason as soon as they played a real team? We wilted like a wax flower in the sun. Outscored 21-4. Beaten like a red-headed, step-child. Absolutely, non-competitive, beatdown.

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I dunno man. The hate toward Billy Kennedy went far beyond basketball.

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I defer as I am not a huge basketball fan. I did know Billy Kennedy and he is maybe one of the best humans I have met. It is just weird for me to see. My friends and I don't think like that. Cue "accepting mediocrity".And we are the problem. It is bizarre to me but very real.

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TxAg76 said:

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dermdoc said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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I dunno man. The hate toward Billy Kennedy went far beyond basketball.

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I defer as I am not a huge basketball fan. I did know Billy Kennedy and he is maybe one of the best humans I have met. It is just weird for me to see. My friends and I don't think like that. Cue "accepting mediocrity".And we are the problem. It is bizarre to me but very real.

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Personally i'm still 50/50 on Earley. I can see both sides of the arguments to keep him versus fire.
I'm definitely in the "wait and see" mode with the new Pitching hire.

But for the others with pitchforks, the overarching sentiment is that we're either committed to winning championships, or we're not....and if we're truly committed, then why waste time with a coach that's still on training wheels? And still trying to figure out how best to manage a team that should absolutely be a perennial top 10 caliber ball club?

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dermdoc said:

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One thing about this subject, the posters who want to fire Earley never waver and are persistent. I hope they are wrong but it is going to be very hard for them to change their minds. I have been doing this a long time and I can not remember such a rapid, almost hateful response towards any coach (except Mark Stoops). It is weird to me as I guess I am more patient. We shall see.

And edited to add that it is pointless to discuss this with them. They are not budging.

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cevans_40 said:

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dermdoc said:

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One thing about this subject, the posters who want to fire Earley never waver and are persistent. I hope they are wrong but it is going to be very hard for them to change their minds. I have been doing this a long time and I can not remember such a rapid, almost hateful response towards any coach (except Mark Stoops). It is weird to me as I guess I am more patient. We shall see.

And edited to add that it is pointless to discuss this with them. They are not budging.

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I don't hate the guy and I hope he does well but the hire was dumb and he has shown rather quickly that he is not up to the task. Will he do some on-the-job learning and turn this thing around, hopefully but this is not a job that should ever be given to someone like that. We are not in a position to have to give an assistant his first job in hopes that it works out. It was a stupid and unnecessary gamble.

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dermdoc said:

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cevans_40 said:

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dermdoc said:

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One thing about this subject, the posters who want to fire Earley never waver and are persistent. I hope they are wrong but it is going to be very hard for them to change their minds. I have been doing this a long time and I can not remember such a rapid, almost hateful response towards any coach (except Mark Stoops). It is weird to me as I guess I am more patient. We shall see.

And edited to add that it is pointless to discuss this with them. They are not budging.

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I don't hate the guy and I hope he does well but the hire was dumb and he has shown rather quickly that he is not up to the task. Will he do some on-the-job learning and turn this thing around, hopefully but this is not a job that should ever be given to someone like that. We are not in a position to have to give an assistant his first job in hopes that it works out. It was a stupid and unnecessary gamble.

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So with Vitello and O'Connor turning us down, I assume you would have wanted us to hire Vaughn for Bama? Itmis there someone else?

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dermdoc said:

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TxAg76 said:

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dermdoc said:

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I dunno man. The hate toward Billy Kennedy went far beyond basketball.

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I defer as I am not a huge basketball fan. I did know Billy Kennedy and he is maybe one of the best humans I have met. It is just weird for me to see. My friends and I don't think like that. Cue "accepting mediocrity".And we are the problem. It is bizarre to me but very real.

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Personally i'm still 50/50 on Earley. I can see both sides of the arguments to keep him versus fire.
I'm definitely in the "wait and see" mode with the new Pitching hire.

But for the others with pitchforks, the overarching sentiment is that we're either committed to winning championships, or we're not....and if we're truly committed, then why waste time with a coach that's still on training wheels? And still trying to figure out how best to manage a team that should absolutely be a perennial top 10 caliber ball club?

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1. So say we had hired Skip Johnson in 2024. And he had the same results as Earley. Would you have wanted to fire him so as not to waste time?
2. And I have a huge problem with your second paragraph. Do you immediately fire every coach who doesn't win after their first year? Why waste time? I mean, if we are truly committed to championships, why wait on anything or anyone?
There is much more than this to almost hatred of Earley and his supporters. It is bizarre to me, I have never gotten as many derogatory posts and pms on any other subject. I frankly do not get it.
3. And there were no pitchforks out for Elko after he went 7-5. And he was not the first choice of a lot of the posters who keep claiming folks like me are accepting mediocrity.
This is totally different and I frankly don't get it. It borders on Frank hatred.

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cevans_40 said:

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dermdoc said:

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cevans_40 said:

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dermdoc said:

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One thing about this subject, the posters who want to fire Earley never waver and are persistent. I hope they are wrong but it is going to be very hard for them to change their minds. I have been doing this a long time and I can not remember such a rapid, almost hateful response towards any coach (except Mark Stoops). It is weird to me as I guess I am more patient. We shall see.

And edited to add that it is pointless to discuss this with them. They are not budging.

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I don't hate the guy and I hope he does well but the hire was dumb and he has shown rather quickly that he is not up to the task. Will he do some on-the-job learning and turn this thing around, hopefully but this is not a job that should ever be given to someone like that. We are not in a position to have to give an assistant his first job in hopes that it works out. It was a stupid and unnecessary gamble.

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So with Vitello and O'Connor turning us down, I assume you would have wanted us to hire Vaughn for Bama? Itmis there someone else?

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Skip Johnson would have been a known commodity. There were plenty of known options. It was a risky hire that was unnecessary. You can argue it until you are blue in the face but it won't change it. Like I said, hopefully it pays off if the long run but make no mistake, it is going to take time. Time, we didn't have to waste.

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TxAg76 said:

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dermdoc said:

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TxAg76 said:

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dermdoc said:

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I dunno man. The hate toward Billy Kennedy went far beyond basketball.

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I defer as I am not a huge basketball fan. I did know Billy Kennedy and he is maybe one of the best humans I have met. It is just weird for me to see. My friends and I don't think like that. Cue "accepting mediocrity".And we are the problem. It is bizarre to me but very real.

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Personally i'm still 50/50 on Earley. I can see both sides of the arguments to keep him versus fire.
I'm definitely in the "wait and see" mode with the new Pitching hire.

But for the others with pitchforks, the overarching sentiment is that we're either committed to winning championships, or we're not....and if we're truly committed, then why waste time with a coach that's still on training wheels? And still trying to figure out how best to manage a team that should absolutely be a perennial top 10 caliber ball club?

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1. So say we had hired Skip Johnson in 2024. And he had the same results as Earley. Would you have wanted to fire him so as not to waste time?
2. And I have a huge problem with your second paragraph. Do you immediately fire every coach who doesn't win after their first year? Why waste time? I mean, if we are truly committed to championships, why wait on anything or anyone?
There is much more than this to almost hatred of Earley and his supporters. It is bizarre to me, I have never gotten as many derogatory posts and pms on any other subject. I frankly do not get it.
3. And there were no pitchforks out for Elko after he went 7-5. And he was not the first choice of a lot of the posters who keep claiming folks like me are accepting mediocrity.
This is totally different and I frankly don't get it. It borders on Frank hatred.

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1. Skip's not on training wheels, and he's earned the benefit of the doubt. And since you're pulling out the hypotheticals, I'd bet a lot of money if he'd hypothetically inherited the same Natty runner-up team, he'd have done better with it.

2. You know you don't. But at the same time, top tier programs don't hire experiments either. We did it just to hold the prior year's team together, and that decision is 100% fair to question of our decision makers. It's also fair to assume he's on a short leash because of it.

3. Yeah, Elko went 7-5 his first season. But he at least had some HC experience, he was widely viewed as having a VERY high ceiling, and he absolutely did NOT inherit the Natty runner-up team (quite the contrary). And he didn't enter that first season as the #1 team in the country either.

Above is just answering your questions.
Again, for me personally, i'm still 50/50 on Earley. I like the Pennington supplement. And I wanna like the new pitching hire, it's just hard to gauge much from it right now.

Here's to hoping.

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Deerdude said:

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We had two options apparently. Hire a mame and lose half the team most to sip, or keep the team and try the assistant.
I think either way the results would have been pretty comparable. I was disappointed in last season but don't regret the decision and this years improvement is notable.

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dermdoc said:

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The group think masses are hard to appease. Which is fine until they start accusing us of "accepting mediocrity". That ticks me off. They have no idea.

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Deerdude said:

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We had two options apparently. Hire a mame and lose half the team most to sip, or keep the team and try the assistant.
I think either way the results would have been pretty comparable. I was disappointed in last season but don't regret the decision and this years improvement is notable.

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cevans_40 said:

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dermdoc said:

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The group think masses are hard to appease. Which is fine until they start accusing us of "accepting mediocrity". That ticks me off. They have no idea.

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I hate that as well and don't believe i have ever said it. I have honestly avoided baseball topics ever since the hire because I don't want to be negative. I hope I am not coming across as potbanging because thats not my mission either. I am frustrated with the decision 2 years ago and things are playing out about exactly as I expected. Like I said, hopefully he gets it turned around and we can get back in the national championship discussion in a few years.

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Deerdude said:

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Maybe not but left high and dry with no coach and portal having been picked over before our season even ended, it was an ugly gamble either way.
Again, NO RAGRETS.

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