That's the published salaries. Nothing else. Just numbers.

Who was A&M competing with for Earley to make us give him $900,000? Why wasn't he where Wes Johnson was before the extension/raise? Johnson at least proved his worth. Texas wasn't going to pay Earley $900,000 to be their hitting coach.

They were going to pay him $500k to be their hitting coach.

So you think the $200k difference that we're paying Earley vs what UGA paid Wes Johnson last year actually makes a difference?

Not to mention we think of ourselves as a better program than Georgia. It is absolutely an optics thing. Which is what I have been saying this whole time.

If you are a top program there is a certain expectation of salary. If you're not paying it than rival coaches will hammer it on the trail.

Ok. Then why was it all guaranteed? Why not $700k with incentives?

Shows you're not committed enough. For as little as that amount is (which is why it's silly we're even arguing about it. 700k vs 900k won't make a difference on if he gets fired or not). It makes a difference to potential recruits. If we gave him a contract with a lesser salary and no guarantees then it would show we have no faith in him, making it much more difficult to recruit.

I don't think that matters to players anymore. They can leave and get paid after every season.

We do? If anyone thinks that, please go sit in the playground area and watch the trains pass.

Yes, this season has been a train wreck but don't act obtuse. We ponied up for the most expensive roster in the country, small time programs don't do that.

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Wouldn't it do wonders for the status of our program to fire a first year coach?!? We would be reaping the benefits of that for years to come.

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Keeping him would tank the program for years.

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based on what? He's got a bunch of bad bullpen pitchers he got stuck with, since portal was over. And he's got the batters he inherited too. You can't tell me he's a bad hitting coach after we were elite hitters for the last 3 years with him.

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He will never have this much talent again

The players have to take as much blame. This is the guy they demanded. Then you come out and don't produce. You got him hired. Your lack of production might get him fired.

The best take is we took a flyer based on keeping much of the team intact and seeing where it would go. Trev clearly believed it could work and likely viewed it as the typical Aggie solution: put a higher character coach in place and give him lots of time. At least you can look at yourself in the mirror and feel good…

Need to get a serious coach in the dugout as soon as possible.

The weeping and gnashing of teeth here is unbelievable.

There's a wealth of talent on this team. And it's not Earley that's swinging at bad pitches, keeping the bat on his shoulder for pitches right down the middle, making errors or boneheaded base running mistakes.

But the easiest person to pile on is Earley. No way you can find fault in our Aggies…

You guys need to calm down and give these boys a chance to get their game together. Baseball is the hardest game on the planet. If it was easy all you guys would be MLB Allstars….

Never would have thought he got that lucrative of a contract as a non proven HC. I will consider my ticket purchases as my contribution to A&M until the AD impresses me

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The weeping and gnashing of teeth here is unbelievable.

There's a wealth of talent on this team. And it's not Earley that's swinging at bad pitches, keeping the bat on his shoulder for pitches right down the middle, making errors or boneheaded base running mistakes.

But the easiest person to pile on is Earley. No way you can find fault in our Aggies…

You guys need to calm down and give these boys a chance to get their game together. Baseball is the hardest game on the planet. If it was easy all you guys would be MLB Allstars….

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It's the coach's job to coach the kids so they don't do that.

The blind allegiance to our well paid coaches while they light ridiculous resources on fire is amazing.

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Top three realistic picks to replace him?

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Vaughn, Heefner, O'Conner

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While he's probably my #1. I've been told here that there's zero chance

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Maybe Buzz Williams can pray over him and he'll have to reconsider an offer?!?

Yep. Zero chance.

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Correct…I have some fairly deep connections to the DBU program and to a person have been told that Heefner will never leave DBU. His faith is the #1 thing in his life and he can live it out on a daily basis at DBU without worrying about university or athletic department administrators meddling.

Rob Vaughn, on the other hand….

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Jodaddyk said:

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The weeping and gnashing of teeth here is unbelievable.

There's a wealth of talent on this team. And it's not Earley that's swinging at bad pitches, keeping the bat on his shoulder for pitches right down the middle, making errors or boneheaded base running mistakes.

But the easiest person to pile on is Earley. No way you can find fault in our Aggies…

You guys need to calm down and give these boys a chance to get their game together. Baseball is the hardest game on the planet. If it was easy all you guys would be MLB Allstars….

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It's the coach's job to coach the kids so they don't do that.

The blind allegiance to our well paid coaches while they light ridiculous resources on fire is amazing.

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These "kids" have played year round baseball their entire lives. Some have been All-Americans. They all have had private coaches. Most played for Schloss and his staff last year. They wanted Early as their coach. Yes baseball is a hard game. But these guys have known success. Early did not cause them to turn bad. I am not loyal to Early. Guys who have basically dedicated their time and lives to baseball and know how to play the game need to start playing to their ability.

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The weeping and gnashing of teeth here is unbelievable.

There's a wealth of talent on this team. And it's not Earley that's swinging at bad pitches, keeping the bat on his shoulder for pitches right down the middle, making errors or boneheaded base running mistakes.

But the easiest person to pile on is Earley. No way you can find fault in our Aggies…

You guys need to calm down and give these boys a chance to get their game together. Baseball is the hardest game on the planet. If it was easy all you guys would be MLB Allstars….

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Do you not understand that we have played 23 games? There has been time. It's Earley who has coached them on how to approach ABs, and Earley deciding their fielding was adequate, and Earley who dictates the team mindset on baserunning.

Sometimes wrong decisions are made and I assume Trev will never let the players make another decision for him. Earley needs to be replaced immediately. Admit the mistake and move on...(not my money).

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The weeping and gnashing of teeth here is unbelievable.

There's a wealth of talent on this team. And it's not Earley that's swinging at bad pitches, keeping the bat on his shoulder for pitches right down the middle, making errors or boneheaded base running mistakes.

But the easiest person to pile on is Earley. No way you can find fault in our Aggies…

You guys need to calm down and give these boys a chance to get their game together. Baseball is the hardest game on the planet. If it was easy all you guys would be MLB Allstars….

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There have been some overwrought emotional posts for sure, but this season has been an unprecedented disaster.

Earley got the job for one reason: to hold together the roster and win this year. He would never even have gotten an interview under normal circumstances with his resume. So, if the whole reason for hiring Earley turns out to be a bust (and it will, barring a miracle every bit as unexpected as our record to date), then what's the logic for keeping him?

I understand Alberts rolling the dice last year because the calendar put us in an impossible position. But, our season is likely to end in May this year. If the program needs a reset, we would be in much better position to do that at the end of this season than we were in late June last year.

Well, I'll just say this and be done.

It's not Earley in the batter's box, it's the players. All the coaching in the world can't make them get a hit, it is totally up to the player at that point.

So, when a player swings and misses, or makes an error, it's Earley's fault. That's the logic you guys are using. SMH !

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Earley got the job for one reason: to hold together the roster and win this year. He would never even have gotten an interview under normal circumstances with his resume. So, if the whole reason for hiring Earley turns out to be a bust (and it will, barring a miracle every bit as unexpected as our record to date), then what's the logic for keeping him?

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This and there is no reason to believe that starters or players that were previously loyal to Earley will stick with him - especially if this season continues to go down the drain.

Recruiting will be a disaster. We can wait a few series before firing him but I'm not opposed to letting him go as soon as we know there's no post season. Let JK finish the season and find a new coach in earnest.

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Well, I'll just say this and be done.

It's not Earley in the batter's box, it's the players. All the coaching in the world can't make them get a hit, it is totally up to the player at that point.

So, when a player swings and misses, or makes an error, it's Earley's fault. That's the logic you guys are using. SMH !

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Sure, the players have to shoulder their share of the blame. Maybe even most of it. But, Earley was hired to keep this group of players together. He would never have been hired under any other circumstances. If keeping this group of players together turns out to be a bust, what's the rationale for keeping the guy whose only job was to keep the roster together?

$4MM guarantee for Earlwy wtf???

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Well, I'll just say this and be done.

It's not Earley in the batter's box, it's the players. All the coaching in the world can't make them get a hit, it is totally up to the player at that point.

So, when a player swings and misses, or makes an error, it's Earley's fault. That's the logic you guys are using. SMH !

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Good lord, Mrs Early

Why even hire a coach if he's so inconsequential?

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This! At the end of the season We will find out how serious trev is about the baseball program and winning.

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End of the season!? **** that, fire him tomorrow!

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Yes, this would be a "smart" move.

NOT.

Give me a break. Absolutely makes ZERO sense. Ride the season out. You never know with baseball. Look a Florida last year.

I still have some hope. Ok....a little hope. But not gonna give up quite yet or start digging the Earley grave quite yet. But we had better win our series against Kentucky as time is running out....

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Shows you're not committed enough. For as little as that amount is (which is why it's silly we're even arguing about it. 700k vs 900k won't make a difference on if he gets fired or not). It makes a difference to potential recruits. If we gave him a contract with a lesser salary and no guarantees then it would show we have no faith in him, making it much more difficult to recruit.

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Oh how easy it is to say 200k isn't a lot of money... when it's not your money.

Believe me, it doesn't matter how rich you are... 200k is still a chunk of change.

Rich people didn't become rich by throwing their money away

And it won't make a difference at all whether he's gone or not.

Just a quick look on the internet… why Vaughn? Does his resume measure up to a Van Horn or O'Connor? Can't we get (or steal) a proven HC to lead our national championship caliber baseball program? Isn't that what we got in Schloss, in order to get us over hump?

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Just a quick look on the internet… why Vaughn? Does his resume measure up to a Van Horn or O'Connor? Can't we get (or steal) a proven HC to lead our national championship caliber baseball program? Isn't that what we got in Schloss, in order to get us over hump?

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Big name guys rarely make lateral moves unless there are extenuating circumstances. Schloss left TCU partly because he had just gone through a divorce and was open to a change of scenery (in addition to wanting to step up to SEC ball).

Van Horn is considered by most Arkansas fans to have peaked. O'Connor is very entrenched at UVA and not having a good year himself (so far).

Wow. This thread is pathetic. We lost some major pieces from last year and the team - apparently like most of the people here - thought sheer karma would still be enough to just stroll out and win. The team found out that's not enough and u-turning takes time. I'm willing to bet we'll be right there in the end.

Thanks. To your point, that's the reason I said "steal". You always make it tempting to force them to say "no".

What do people think of Bianco?

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Wow. This thread is pathetic. We lost some major pieces from last year and the team - apparently like most of the people here - thought sheer karma would still be enough to just stroll out and win. The team found out that's not enough and u-turning takes time. I'm willing to bet we'll be right there in the end.

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This team was ranked number one for a reason. The results up to this point have been a disaster. There is still time to turn it around, but if the performance the rest of the way is not dramatically better than what we've seen to date, one has to question whether it's time to cut your losses.

Earley was a huge gamble. Given our options, it wasn't a crazy gamble to roll the dice on winning this year by holding the roster together. But, it was a short term move. If it doesn't pan out, you have to look at the long term and keeping Earley for a few years just because you want to give him time is a bigger gamble than hiring him in the first place

Let's hope the team turns it around and makes all this discussion moot.

I guess that's all you can ask - let it play out without turning on the coach and players. They lost Cortez, ashenbach, Montgomery, sorrell was out and Grahovac is out. And their old coach humiliated them in about the worst way possible. There's a hangover from all that for all of them whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

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I guess that's all you can ask - let it play out without turning on the coach and players. They lost Cortez, ashenbach, Montgomery, sorrell was out and Grahovac is out. And their old coach humiliated them in about the worst way possible. There's a hangover from all that for all of them whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

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Losing Grahovac and Sorrell was a blow, for sure, but Earley was hired to deal with the rest of that. That is the job he signed up for. He could have done like Nolan Cain, said he wasn't ready, and gone to Austin or elsewhere as an assistant. Instead, he sold our leadership on him being ready for the challenge right now. It's not unreasonable to hold him to that. No reasonable person would say it's CWS title or hit the road, but simply making the tournament seems a reasonable expectation even with the aforementioned injuries.