$3MM to fire Earley.... worth it?

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Reno Hightower
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His team is the Roy Munson of the 2025 College Baseball season.
dcg4403
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FM 949 said:

Fairview20 said:

We are paying him almost the bare minimum for a big time SEC job. If his guaranteed money is any less than you have rival programs hammering that to recruits saying we aren't actually committed to him.
Not like it will matter anyway but getting mad over a $3M buy out (as opposed to a $2M buyout?) is the silliest thing I've seen on this board lately.

I realize it (hopefully) won't matter, but the optics of it do on the recruiting trail.

That extra $750k-$1M won't make a difference.


This is not accurate. At $900,000 this year Earley is making more than UK's, Oregon's Okie State's, and Oregon State's head coaches. It's only $100,000 less than Schloss at Texas. It's the same as Rob Vaughn and Wes Johnson at Georgia got bumped from $700k to over $1M after last season.

Earley's contract is mind blowing in its amount and the guaranteed money.
Simply an IDIOTIC contract. Guy wanted the job so bad. He would have taken what sips offered him as hitting coach + incentives for doing well. Trev? Let me dumb that down. It means you pay him when he shows results.

So stupid.

ENTIRE REASON why none of my money goes to 12th Man and athletics. Might as well throw money away. I support by academic donations. We also gave TAMFS the largest single donation just this year to plant more trees.

It is so very clear listening to Earley that the guy is overwhelmed and really out of his element as a HC. He is coaching them as a player with a peer to peer relationship and this is his downfall. Schlosscwas not liked by most players but look at his outcomes when u coach purely to coach. Friendships matter little.

Listen to him on TexAgs and it is clear he is trying to figure this out with the players input. Makes him look clueless. Sad to say but true. I had hope for Earley and unless he makes a post season run…..we MUST throw big dollars at Vaugh 100%. If that fails, maybe you retain Earley and ride on hope for another season. Recruiting is NOT good right now either.

Talking of idiotic, I still retain hope for this team and making what seems like an impossible post season run. Only winning matters.
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Wabs said:

I was leaning heavily towards giving Earley the "benefit of the doubt" - before this weekend. These were games we needed to win to get into the postseason. Against a team that hadn't won a single SEC game. At home.

Just a miserable performance all around, and honestly the team (and coaches) looked disinterested.

They basically have one more chance to pull a rabbit out of the hat. The likelihood of that is very, very slim.

To me, no postseason means new coach.
This. Sorry Earley. The truth of the situation. I hope you pull the rabbit. Just like parenting as you will also learn, you MUST be a parent 1st….friendships come later in life.
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FM 949 said:

Fairview20 said:

We are paying him almost the bare minimum for a big time SEC job. If his guaranteed money is any less than you have rival programs hammering that to recruits saying we aren't actually committed to him.
Not like it will matter anyway but getting mad over a $3M buy out (as opposed to a $2M buyout?) is the silliest thing I've seen on this board lately.

I realize it (hopefully) won't matter, but the optics of it do on the recruiting trail.

That extra $750k-$1M won't make a difference.


This is not accurate. At $900,000 this year Earley is making more than UK's, Oregon's Okie State's, and Oregon State's head coaches. It's only $100,000 less than Schloss at Texas. It's the same as Rob Vaughn and Wes Johnson at Georgia got bumped from $700k to over $1M after last season.

Earley's contract is mind blowing in its amount and the guaranteed money.


Schloss is only making $1 million? He was making a lot more than that here
TAMU1990
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He agreed to some structure where his salary goes up (I think next year) to around $2.5M. It looked like to me his salary was adjusted due to the buyout. That's part is just my opinion.

Someone will post with more precise information than me.
greg.w.h
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TAMU1990 said:

He agreed to some structure where his salary goes up (I think next year) to around $2.5M. It looked like to me his salary was adjusted due to the buyout. That's part is just my opinion.

Someone will post with more precise information than me.
Texas paid the buyout and impinged his salary for a year or two. But who cares?
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greg.w.h said:

TAMU1990 said:

He agreed to some structure where his salary goes up (I think next year) to around $2.5M. It looked like to me his salary was adjusted due to the buyout. That's part is just my opinion.

Someone will post with more precise information than me.
Texas paid the buyout and impinged his salary for a year or two. But who cares?


A poster was trying to say we are paying Earley only $100k less than what Schloss makes which would be crazy if true
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People complain about the contract. It is a four year deal, but what was the alternative? If you give him a one year deal, what are you saying to the players, recruits, and fans. What is he supposed to tell recruits? I have a one year deal, so it is an audition. If I do well, you can play for me. What if things had gone different, and he had a great year. How committed to TAMU would you be if they made you audition for a year when other schools came asking. Maybe a three year deal would have been better, but you had to at least commit something to him.
TAMU1990
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We have a good class coming in (hopefully the draft won't screw that up with our top players) and 14 comments in the 2026 class. The rising juniors 2027 will be able to talk with staff later this summer.
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GrimesCoAg95 said:

People complain about the contract. It is a four year deal, but what was the alternative? If you give him a one year deal, what are you saying to the players, recruits, and fans. What is he supposed to tell recruits? I have a one year deal, so it is an audition. If I do well, you can play for me. What if things had gone different, and he had a great year. How committed to TAMU would you be if they made you audition for a year when other schools came asking. Maybe a three year deal would have been better, but you had to at least commit something to him.
I think the issue is around the entire salary being fully guaranteed. For someone who hasn't been a HC before, it probably would have been better to sign him to a 4 year incentive laden contract with a termination for cause penalty laid out.
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TexAgs23 said:

GrimesCoAg95 said:

People complain about the contract. It is a four year deal, but what was the alternative? If you give him a one year deal, what are you saying to the players, recruits, and fans. What is he supposed to tell recruits? I have a one year deal, so it is an audition. If I do well, you can play for me. What if things had gone different, and he had a great year. How committed to TAMU would you be if they made you audition for a year when other schools came asking. Maybe a three year deal would have been better, but you had to at least commit something to him.
I think the issue is around the entire salary being fully guaranteed. For someone who hasn't been a HC before, it probably would have been better to sign him to a 4 year incentive laden contract with a termination for cause penalty laid out.
..... must have been a hell of an interview; that or the handshake deal is essentially 3-4 years come hell or high water. which makes sense given that his pedigree was an embarrassment and he was essentially given a position he did not earn.
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jrodwh00p said:

TexAgs23 said:

GrimesCoAg95 said:

People complain about the contract. It is a four year deal, but what was the alternative? If you give him a one year deal, what are you saying to the players, recruits, and fans. What is he supposed to tell recruits? I have a one year deal, so it is an audition. If I do well, you can play for me. What if things had gone different, and he had a great year. How committed to TAMU would you be if they made you audition for a year when other schools came asking. Maybe a three year deal would have been better, but you had to at least commit something to him.
I think the issue is around the entire salary being fully guaranteed. For someone who hasn't been a HC before, it probably would have been better to sign him to a 4 year incentive laden contract with a termination for cause penalty laid out.
..... must have been a hell of an interview; that or the handshake deal is essentially 3-4 years come hell or high water. which makes sense given that his pedigree was an embarrassment and he was essentially given a position he did not earn.
So he did earn it. You just don't like how he earned it because you dnt control the decision so you're in the peanut gallery carping.But sounding like you're wearing your big boy pants. Those are shorts man. And possibly just briefs…
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greg.w.h said:

jrodwh00p said:

TexAgs23 said:

GrimesCoAg95 said:

People complain about the contract. It is a four year deal, but what was the alternative? If you give him a one year deal, what are you saying to the players, recruits, and fans. What is he supposed to tell recruits? I have a one year deal, so it is an audition. If I do well, you can play for me. What if things had gone different, and he had a great year. How committed to TAMU would you be if they made you audition for a year when other schools came asking. Maybe a three year deal would have been better, but you had to at least commit something to him.
I think the issue is around the entire salary being fully guaranteed. For someone who hasn't been a HC before, it probably would have been better to sign him to a 4 year incentive laden contract with a termination for cause penalty laid out.
..... must have been a hell of an interview; that or the handshake deal is essentially 3-4 years come hell or high water. which makes sense given that his pedigree was an embarrassment and he was essentially given a position he did not earn.
So he did earn it. You just don't like how he earned it because you dnt control the decision so you're in the peanut gallery carping.But sounding like you're wearing your big boy pants. Those are shorts man. And possibly just briefs
it's called an opinion and there are thousands of them on this platform, even yours is just as superfluous as mine, and wtf are you infatuated with boy's pants and imagining me in briefs, kind of weird attempt to own someone, but whatever man.

Earley did not earn it to the extent he put in no more than 6-7 years as a hitting coach..... never once was a head coach at even a DII/HS level. Most SEC head coaches had to spend decades in the trenches to get their opportunity. Earley just had it fall in his lap and it wasn't good for him, the players or the program. Good pedigree to start at UTSA or New Mexico, but we are not that, and this conference is not the WAC. Again, I have an opinion and an *******, just like everyone else.

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dcg4403 said:




It is so very clear listening to Earley that the guy is overwhelmed and really out of his element as a HC. He is coaching them as a player with a peer to peer relationship and this is his downfall. Schlosscwas not liked by most players but look at his outcomes when u coach purely to coach. Friendships matter little.

Listen to him on TexAgs and it is clear he is trying to figure this out with the players input. Makes him look clueless. Sad to say but true.
hard to imagine someone like this being a good bull*****er, but thats basically what im being told when someone says he WASN'T hired b/c of the players but cause he "knocked the interview out of the park".

I do remember his press conf stating that "i promise you, im built for this". Maybe the guy really is just delusional, cause a grown man shouldn't be that disconnected from his capabilities IMO.
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Who said he knocked the interview out of the park?

Lies, if there is actually someone stating this.

And don't say Trev in last years PC. AD's know how to cater to the audience.
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Do you winky face every single post you make?

Mr. funny guy right here.
GrimesCoAg95
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I understand that people wish it was more incentive based, but that is just not the norm in college coaching contracts. There are fewer great coaches than programs, and the power here lies with the coaches. You can get buyouts if they are hired away, but the contracts are guaranteed. There is the benefit of having them committed to multiple years when they do well, but it does cut both ways.

The sad thing for me this year is that we lost a lot of close games late in the game which changes the year. We had some late wins namely against USC and LSU, but we had some late losses too.

That said, Go Ags! Let's get some wins over Georgia.
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dabo man said:

Wouldn't it do wonders for the status of our program to fire a first year coach?!? We would be reaping the benefits of that for years to come.
Not if you hire the right man as his replacement.
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LB12Diamond said:

Do you winky face every single post you make?

Mr. funny guy right here.


Yes, he creepy winks every.single.time
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

LB12Diamond said:

Do you winky face every single post you make?

Mr. funny guy right here.


Yes, he creepy winks every.single.time
yep...
DadHammer
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This 100%

Plus why in the hell or we paying a totally unproven coach $1 million per year guaranteed for four Fing years? Plus how much more to fire the assistants?

A three year incentive contract is a no brainer here. Idiots.

We are the dumbest athletic organization in the history of college sports. I mean that.
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it's the nature of the A&M athletic department

the department goes all-in with every new coach

never plays the hedge
Bobaloo
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Great coaches don't lose 77-0 (Fran) or get annihilated at home against Iowa State (Fran) or spot KState 59 on the road (Sherman) or lose double digit leads regularly (Sherman) or get swept at home in a must win series against at team with an 0-24 conference record (Early). The guy may turn it around. Who knows. I'm inclined to give him another season but anything short of hosting a regional and he's gone. A&M has to demand more.
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GrimesCoAg95 said:

I understand that people wish it was more incentive based, but that is just not the norm in college coaching contracts. There are fewer great coaches than programs, and the power here lies with the coaches. You can get buyouts if they are hired away, but the contracts are guaranteed. There is the benefit of having them committed to multiple years when they do well, but it does cut both ways.

The sad thing for me this year is that we lost a lot of close games late in the game which changes the year. We had some late wins namely against USC and LSU, but we had some late losses too.

That said, Go Ags! Let's get some wins over Georgia.


Yeah but Early was not one of those great head coaches when we hired him (nor is he now). No one else would have taken him as a head coach, so we didn't have any competition. Could have paid him much less given his other options were to be a hitting coach.
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I would have fired him after the first month. Why wait
There are so many baseball coaches in America it is pathetic to not have a winning program.

Did anyone expect the backup coach to win? This was a social promotion based on emotions.

A million dollars to coach baseball you better win.
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TAMU1990 said:

He agreed to some structure where his salary goes up (I think next year) to around $2.5M. It looked like to me his salary was adjusted due to the buyout. That's part is just my opinion.

Someone will post with more precise information than me.
7 years, $15.4M. $1M each of the first 2 years (theoretically to pay for the $2.7M buyout to A&M) then jumps to $2.68M for the final 5 years. Up to another $500k possible in incentives each year.

FYI he's already earned $100k in incentives this year ($50k SEC COY, $50k SEC regular season title). He cannot earn the $50k for the SEC tourney title. He could get $50k for National COY.

He'll get another $50k for making the NCAA tourney, then would get another $50k for each additional step. $50k for making the Supers, $50k for making the CWS, $50k for reaching the championship series, $50k for winning the national title. So up to $300k total in the tournament.
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LB12Diamond said:

Who said he knocked the interview out of the park?

Lies, if there is actually someone stating this.

And don't say Trev in last years PC. AD's know how to cater to the audience.

Kendall and Billy stated it one year ago. I mean, what else could they say as he certainly wasn't hired for his head coaching experience and impressive resume' ?
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Say what. I did not realize they were on the interview panel.
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LB12Diamond said:

Say what. I did not realize they were on the interview panel.

LB12Diamond
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So repeated what Trev said.

My post you quoted already covered that one. Did you miss what I said about Trev. ADs know how to talk to their audience. Please by all means keep asking questions that are already answered.
 
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