$3MM to fire Earley.... worth it?

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Killzone3abc
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How you can pick on the 1 guy who has the play the entire seaspn hurt due to an unexpected re-injury as your example of a crap investment is beyond me.
Mister Mystery Guest
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Unexpected? I wasn't surprised by it. He wasn't exactly mobile last year. Sweet swing but not gonna be a pro. We'll have a better *team* next year when three celebrities are no longer here. That is…if we can get any pitchers to come here.
HoustonAggie427
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No, it won't. Trying to buy a championship here is lighting money on fire.
krushing93
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Assuming Earley is out this after this year, is Mingione on our radar at all? I love what I've seen from him. Being able to execute and manufacture runs is something we seem to put little to no emphasis on, and he's been able to use small ball strategies to turn Kentucky into a very formidable opponent in the hardest conference in the nation.
SB IV
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Worth it if you can get Rob Vaughn or Link Jarrett
B-1 83
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90ags said:

Anyone know how he's recruiting for 2026 and 2027? I don't and not quite sure where to gather that intel (other than BA pay site... and I don't pay as not that important ).

On X, did see many SEC teams in top 10 and tu leading the charge (think they are #1 in projected recruits), but we weren't listed.

If he's recruiting well (A&M has to be top 10 and in starting pitchers), then he may get a leash...if he's way off on refilling the cupboards with talent after this year's exodus, then he won't survive IMO. It's not a great scenario at the current juncture.
He was handed a top notch squad, and what has he done?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
W
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are the Ags going to win a conference series this year?
The Marksman
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krushing93 said:

Assuming Earley is out this after this year, is Mingione on our radar at all? I love what I've seen from him. Being able to execute and manufacture runs is something we seem to put little to no emphasis on, and he's been able to use small ball strategies to turn Kentucky into a very formidable opponent in the hardest conference in the nation.
Absolutely not
W
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hold on, Schott got $185k ?

whoa, then the NIL budget is in the neighborhood of $5 MM for this club
phatpat21
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Yes
there were skittles in there!
Iraq2xVeteran
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W said:

are the Ags going to win a conference series this year?
The only two conference series I think we can win are home series against South Carolina 4/10-4/12 and against Missouri 5/9-5/11. Like us, South Carolina has a 1-8 SEC record, and Missouri has an 0-9 SEC record.
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HoustonAggie427 said:

We would owe him $3MM if we fired him at the end of the season. 100% of his remaining contract.

It's alot of $$ for baseball, but what's $3MM after the $77MM we paid Jimbo?
Wait, what I kind of contract did we give a first-time unproven head coach?
Ball Five
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Link ain't leaving FSU. He's an alum (and a die-hard), and just got a rich extension. Reportedly we did look at him last year but he was unmovable.
Vaughn is the guy I want.
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Chuck Gay said:

Pichael Thompson said:

We gave earley a 3mm guaranteed
For those interested in the financial side, someone posted the contract here earlier this week. It was basically $4M guaranteed over 4 years.
WTF? For a first-time head coach in baseball? That's industrial-strength stupid. Are you telling me he wouldn't have come for half that?

This is why I don't give money any more. I'm tired of them wasting it.
twk
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The Earley Bird said:

Link ain't leaving FSU. He's an alum (and a die-hard), and just got a rich extension. Reportedly we did look at him last year but he was unmovable.
Vaughn is the guy I want.
I like Vaughn a lot. Liked him last year, but taking a guy after his first year at an SEC school, in our unique situation, didn't seem practical. To me, he's the floor. If we don't hire Vaughn, or someone better, then the seatch is going to look like a failure (of course, you never know, sometimes the hire everyone is disappointed with turns out great).
BQ92
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W said:

are the Ags going to win a conference series this year?


No, however there is a chance the other team blows a game or two to our benefit
Sq 17
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Pichael Thompson said:

We gave earley a 3mm guaranteed contract????


My God the jokes write themselves


NM
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hunter2012 said:

Our Athletic Department is hands down the worst entity in the wide world of sports at contract negotiations. Between the boosters and those responsible in the AD it literally does not get worse in any sport anywhere.
FIFY
hillcountryag86
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Mister Mystery Guest said:

The dumbass alum that gave Schott $185K to return can be the first to pony up money to fire Earley. I swear, Mike's not the problem. Too much was paid out to immature funny guys and party boys and most of them, in one way or another, did not show up physically ready to play for spring ball. The only coach I want gone is JK.
Most outlandish post on this thread! I have no idea how much Schott was paid but you are suggesting he isn't worth money.

Let's see..... Led the team that played for the NC in batting average. (Yeah, no big deal there.)
.498 slugging percentage last year and .418 on base percentage. Yep, you're right, not worth money.

Preseason SEC 1st Team. Seems those stupid experts thought pretty highly of him.

Immature funny guys and party boys?? We heard of one instance of a loud party. Gee, what college kid has ever done that?
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hillcountryag86 said:

Mister Mystery Guest said:

The dumbass alum that gave Schott $185K to return can be the first to pony up money to fire Earley. I swear, Mike's not the problem. Too much was paid out to immature funny guys and party boys and most of them, in one way or another, did not show up physically ready to play for spring ball. The only coach I want gone is JK.
Most outlandish post on this thread! I have no idea how much Schott was paid but you are suggesting he isn't worth money.

Let's see..... Led the team that played for the NC in batting average. (Yeah, no big deal there.)
.498 slugging percentage last year and .418 on base percentage. Yep, you're right, not worth money.

Preseason SEC 1st Team. Seems those stupid experts thought pretty highly of him.

Immature funny guys and party boys?? We heard of one instance of a loud party. Gee, what college kid has ever done that?
Thanks for taking the time. I opted not to waste time on something so uninformed
hillcountryag86
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It's as ignorant a statement as I've read on the entire site in a long time. And that says something.
dcg4403
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MaroonStain said:

GymBroFisher said:

Hank the Grifter said:

dabo man said:

Wouldn't it do wonders for the status of our program to fire a first year coach?!? We would be reaping the benefits of that for years to come.

If we were competitive and showing signs of *almost* being there, you might have a point.
You run the risk of losing the fanbase if you keep this guy around. What's more important to the AD, the paying customers or a perceived reputation by a bunch of coaches who are mercenaries?
Ya, you risk losing this fanbase. We all know this fanbase can't take tough times and isn't accustomed to any sort of hardships or misery. We only know winning, and if we aren't then we'll all just quit like winners.


This is the biggest crock of OFFAL that I have ever read on this site in 25 years. LOL! Congrats, troll. #flagged


Sounds 100% like Texas fans there.

Clearly this OP knows little about A&M sports and our fan base. Saying that "we only know winning" is the clear give away here!

Nice try but huge fail!
Aston 91
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To answer OP's question succinctly: "Yes."
coupland boy
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I dont think it's worth it.

We had a good coach. Turned out he was a ******** but he sure could coach. Somehow that guy left us [delete - we let him go]. Maybe keeping good coaches here is just too difficult. We have to way overcommit to coaches we think are good - to the point they are comfortable - then we get what we get.

Maybe it's time to manage expectations. I begrudgingly say that but it's come after decades.
twk
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coupland boy said:

I dont think it's worth it.

We had a good coach. Turned out he was a ******** but he sure could coach. Somehow we let him go. Maybe keeping good coaches here is just too difficult. We have to way overcommit to coaches we think are good - to the point they are comfortable - then we get what we get.

Maybe it's time to manage expectations. I begrudgingly say that but it's come after decades.

What a load of garbage. We didn't let Schloss go. He ran over us on the way out of the door. There was nothing we could have done that would have kept him away from his buddy CDC. That was his dream set up.
Mark Fairchild
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Agree with Aston91, short no frills answer is YES, fire him!
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
coupland boy
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As i said. Maybe keeping good coaches is too difficult for us. Whatever the reason.
Aston 91
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To address the question with more than a one word answer, I still think it's worth $3MM to move on at this point. But it really shouldn't be a question of whether it's worth that amount of money to move on from a first year head coach that was in a volunteer coaching position just a few years prior. I realize $1MM a year is on the lower end of SEC head coach's salaries, but to fully guarantee a $4MM contract to a guy that was a volunteer a few years before is just bad negotiating. I thought Alberts would at least be better in that regard, but I guess he's carrying on the Aggie tradition of fully guaranteed contracts that started with Franchione and continue to this day.
twk
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coupland boy said:

As i said. Maybe keeping good coaches is too difficult for us. Whatever the reason.
If you want to pretend that is some kind of sharp comeback, go ahead, but you are just showing that you are delusional. You can't make someone stay if they are determined to leave. Blaming A&M for Schloss leaving is stupid.
coupland boy
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twk said:

coupland boy said:

As i said. Maybe keeping good coaches is too difficult for us. Whatever the reason.
If you want to pretend that is some kind of sharp comeback, go ahead, but you are just showing that you are delusional. You can't make someone stay if they are determined to leave. Blaming A&M for Schloss leaving is stupid.


It was not intended that way (a sharp comeback). Its simply what I mean.

It's from years of observation followed by hopes and then dashed hopes. At some point maybe it's just not a run of bad luck anymore.

Forget schlong. Do we overpay for coaches with one sided contracts or not? Jimbo fleeced us and he's not the only one.
Artorias
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twk said:


Blaming A&M for Schloss leaving is stupid.
There was no keeping Schloss. But Alberts clearly was not prepared and was left scrambling, ultimately resulting in the Earley hire. Alberts has not been impressive in his role thus far.

LB12Diamond
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coupland boy said:

As i said. Maybe keeping good coaches is too difficult for us. Whatever the reason.


It's your fault. Why did you not improve the swinger atmosphere in CS!
WolfCall
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twk said:

coupland boy said:

As i said. Maybe keeping good coaches is too difficult for us. Whatever the reason.
If you want to pretend that is some kind of sharp comeback, go ahead, but you are just showing that you are delusional. You can't make someone stay if they are determined to leave. Blaming A&M for Schloss leaving is stupid.
I wish the STAFF would ban posts saying, "We let Schloss go.....".

coupland boy
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I've been on your side of the argument many times. Absolutely refused to give up. "We'll have our day!"

One thing you can be happy about is that usually when ive reached my end of patience....that's when things get better. So maybe Aggie athletics is about to step up. I really, really hope so.
Capstone
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For those worried about losing a roster full of players if we change coaches, that pretty much takes care of itself. After this year, we lose our starting Friday/Saturday/Sunday pitchers, second base, shortstop, catcher and center fielder to the draft... at minimum.

Contributors that have to be held onto at all costs - Sorrell, Kiel, Moss, a few arms from the pen

Players lost to injury for the year that must be held - Grahovac, Sdao

With what we are losing, we are pretty much starting over next year regardless if it is with Earley or a new coach.

If I'm reading daddy Grahovac's tweet correctly, it sounds like it another hostage situation - but with less to lose this time around.
 
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