Compared to fixing mechanics, yes it is easily fixable.fieldtrailer said:Easily fixable? OK.96ags said:I don't think the problem is as much swing mechanics as it is mental approach. This team simply doesn't do the little things right to have good, productive at bats.AgsinGA said:
Obvious statement. Time to practice hitting for a week.
Disappointing to see with such great pitching.
Good news is that is easily fixable. Bad news, they have been doing all year.
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Bondag said:http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/116330/ross-stripling-almost-joined-bumpus-jones-in-mlb-historythreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
Was about to bring this up. Thanks.
Also add in there the losing series at the SEC tourney. I don't know how much the committee looks at tourney's but we just went 1-2 at ours.Mooooon River said:evanpd16 said:Mooooon River said:evanpd16 said:marleyrox said:
They don't deserve to host
Yes we do.
Winning one game in the SEC tourney... no.
Winning series against Vandy and Arky... yes
Losing series to lsu, being swept by Ole Miss, and losing series to Miss State... No.
Wabs said:
Personally I think we get a 2 seed.
I certainly would rather 1-2 our way, scoring four runs total, out of a road regional than a home one.
But I hope we get a home one nonetheless on the small chance we show up capable of contacting a ball with a bat.
someone should get Dox a shoulder rub and a stiff shot
Ross Stripling's MLB debut after 7.1 no-hit inningsthreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
Why even put him out there, then? He has thrown over 100 pitches almost every single game. Him throwing another 10 pitches is not going to injure him.AggieBand2004 said:Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
There's a great idea. Injure your ace pitcher right before a) the postseason and b) he gets drafted.
You'd make a helluva coach
It's pretty simple. You watch games where our guys look at strikes and swing it balls. As a result, they get behind the count consistently. They are not seeing the ball well. Why? One cannot see that which you do not look at. This is a concept that is taught coaches to T-ball ballers. The bat sits on their shoulders as if it's glued there. The bat is your weapon, gentlemen. Besides your brain and your body, your PAT is the only other weapon you have. watch the ball, swing at strikes and take balls, and hit.
Again the bullpen fails... hitting too
Well the boo-birds are out but not many of them.
REGIONAL TIME!!!!
REGIONAL TIME!!!!
He could have pitched 27 no hit innings but he would still have to answer the bell in the 28th. At what point do you save his arm for the NCAA tournament?Average Joe said:Why even put him out there, then? He has thrown over 100 pitches almost every single game. Him throwing another 10 pitches is not going to injure him.AggieBand2004 said:Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
There's a great idea. Injure your ace pitcher right before a) the postseason and b) he gets drafted.
You'd make a helluva coach
Its not like he was at 120 pitches. The dude isn't made of glass. Why not see if he can pitch one more inning, or one more batter? If nothing else, he earned the right to at least start the 9th. That is a gutless manager.
Its not like he is a running back. Why bother showing up if you aren't going to do everything you can to win?
Its not like he is a running back. Why bother showing up if you aren't going to do everything you can to win?
That's 7 1/3....was asking "after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball".Mr.Ackar07 said:Ross Stripling's MLB debut after 7.1 no-hit inningsthreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
I'd have probably let Dox go 9, but that's it. No issue with him being pulled there though. Without him, this team would be trash.
BeatHellOutOfTU said:
Again the bullpen fails... hitting too
The bullpen is not at fault for a 1-0 loss. I pity the day that we fire Childress and our pitching goes back to normal ERAs.
Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
If this was a post season game, you leave him in. But it isn't so you don't.
TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
Austin Wood, but yeah.
threeanout said:That's 7 1/3....was asking "after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball".Mr.Ackar07 said:Ross Stripling's MLB debut after 7.1 no-hit inningsthreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
Pedro with a perfect game after 9 lol
Ok well if we can make those kind of assumptions, I'll be glad we will have at least an average lineuphunter2012 said:BeatHellOutOfTU said:
Again the bullpen fails... hitting too
The bullpen is not at fault for a 1-0 loss. I pity the day that we fire Childress and our pitching goes back to normal ERAs.
You mean the guy that threw 240 or whatever pitches? You're comparing that to throwing less than half that?Aggies2009 said:TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
Austin Wood, but yeah.
He wasn't even up to his average pitch count. He pitches more than this THE ENTIRE SEASON. And he will still have an extra day of rest before the regionals start.old yeller said:He could have pitched 27 no hit innings but he would still have to answer the bell in the 28th. At what point do you save his arm for the NCAA tournament?Average Joe said:Why even put him out there, then? He has thrown over 100 pitches almost every single game. Him throwing another 10 pitches is not going to injure him.AggieBand2004 said:Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
There's a great idea. Injure your ace pitcher right before a) the postseason and b) he gets drafted.
You'd make a helluva coach
By your logic, why pull him in the 8th? Why not pull him in the 6th? Why even throw him at all? 15 days of rest is obviously better than 8 days of rest.
Well excuse me then; I didn't realize you were looking for specifically 8.0 innings pitched.threeanout said:That's 7 1/3....was asking "after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball".Mr.Ackar07 said:Ross Stripling's MLB debut after 7.1 no-hit inningsthreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
BoozingAg said:You mean the guy that threw 240 or whatever pitches? You're comparing that to throwing less than half that?Aggies2009 said:TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
Austin Wood, but yeah.
It was 170 after throwing 30 the day before. All I did was correct the guy who mentioned him. Hth
We could've played another 9 innings and not scored, so why risk injury to Dox? I can't believe this team just went 18 innings without a run and the hot topic is when we pulled our starting pitcher.
Mr.Ackar07 said:Well excuse me then; I didn't realize you were looking for specifically 8.0 innings pitched.threeanout said:That's 7 1/3....was asking "after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball".Mr.Ackar07 said:Ross Stripling's MLB debut after 7.1 no-hit inningsthreeanout said:Do you have an example of a starting pitcher being pulled after throwing 8 innings of no hit ball? Don't use the Astros no hitter where they threw five guys.Aggies2009 said:I mean, that's quite a jump you're making from "save a pitcher who's approaching 100 pitches" to "Just forfeit the games". Nobody said to forfeit the games or anything close.Dgrimesag92 said:Aggies2009 said:Isn't that what's important? Even IF Dox is there and somehow shuts them out, we're going to the 10th now. Would you want him to come out for the 10th? Let it go, dude.Dgrimesag92 said:
Oh well at least Dox is available for a regional.
Why even show up for the tourney then? Are you there not to win it? Stupid analogy. You don't pull a kid with a no hitter going to the 9th....period.
a) You don't know if Dox was tired, hurt, etc. Coach was talking to him actively in the dugout. You weren't.
b) Pitchers have been pulled when they have no-hitters before, especially in tie games. If we were up 3-0, I'd have felt different.
c) You'd expect your offense to score a run and your bullpen to get you 1 inning. I agree taking out Miller was a huge mistake. Not Dox though.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/more-pitchers-are-getting-pulled-from-no-hitters/
Good article on it.
Which makes his point all the more ridiculousAggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:You mean the guy that threw 240 or whatever pitches? You're comparing that to throwing less than half that?Aggies2009 said:TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
Austin Wood, but yeah.
It was 170 after throwing 30 the day before. All I did was correct the guy who mentioned him. Hth
BoozingAg said:Which makes his point all the more ridiculousAggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:You mean the guy that threw 240 or whatever pitches? You're comparing that to throwing less than half that?Aggies2009 said:TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
Austin Wood, but yeah.
It was 170 after throwing 30 the day before. All I did was correct the guy who mentioned him. Hth
Again, I didn't agree or disagree. I corrected the name.
I agree with you in this thread.
Seely may work with the hitters but the offense belong to Bolt. Plus, Seely is on the road recruiting for much of the year and is not likely to be on-site as much as is Bolt.
Yes, throwing 169 pitches is the same as throwing 10 pitches less than your average. You're right. We probably shouldn't let anyone throw more than 20 pitches since closers can't throw many more than that. No one should be able to. They might get an ouchie.TexasRebel said:Average Joe said:The regionals don't start for another week. If he pitched 120 pitches he would still get an extra days rest.TexasRebel said:
You do if you want to pitch him in the regionals.
In what scenario would we lose Dox 8 days from now if he threw the same number of pitches he does on average?
Did a lot of good for Adam Wood, huh?
That little kid asking his dad for a gun must be reading this thread!
I'm going to leave here in a little bit and go watch my son's high school team play in the Regional semi-finals!
Have a great day guys
I'm going to leave here in a little bit and go watch my son's high school team play in the Regional semi-finals!
Have a great day guys
TexasAggie81 said:
It's pretty simple. You watch games where our guys look at strikes and swing it balls. As a result, they get behind the count consistently. They are not seeing the ball well. Why? One cannot see that which you do not look at. This is a concept that is taught coaches to T-ball ballers. The bat sits on their shoulders as if it's glued there. The bat is your weapon, gentlemen. Besides your brain and your body, your PAT is the only other weapon you have. watch the ball, swing at strikes and take balls, and hit.
Blue, Blue,Blue Star this!
First, I am not a Childress apologist. But, his pitching staff did more than their share to win games in the tournament. So, I'm not quite ready to say "fire Childress".
It is the offense that didn't show up the last two games. The starting pitchers more than showed up.
It is the offense that didn't show up the last two games. The starting pitchers more than showed up.
seeing people put blame on the bullpen speaks volumes to how our starting pitchers have spoiled us -- we're expecting every pitcher to be essentially flawless.
Unfortunately Childress is the head coach and not just the pitching coach. He is responsible for the performance of the offense as well as the pitching.mwm said:
First, I am not a Childress apologist. But, his pitching staff did more than their share to win games in the tournament. So, I'm not quite ready to say "fire Childress".
It is the offense that didn't show up the last two games. The starting pitchers more than showed up.
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