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the ones that don't go pro are not going to college station, they are going to austin.

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I don't know. Rice and Texas aren't what they used to be in terms of baseball teams. And you have Tech in last year's CWS, Houston in a super, and Sam making common tournament appearances. I still think there's a lot to going where you get the most money for the most playing time. If you're offered a fraction of a scholarship to play behind a couple guys, you can drive a few hours in any direction and find another quality program in Texas to play for.

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If you're offered a fraction of a scholarship to play behind a couple guys, you can drive a few hours in any direction and find another quality program in Texas to play for.

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correct.

this is why you see some teams that have a few good years. a guy wants to play and wont get that chance at texas. so he goes to A&M or TCU or TECH.

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Winning it all is what matters. FSU has been to Omaha 21 times, including 14 times in the last 30 years (so almost every other year), but they have never won. Meanwhile Vandy, UCLA, Fresno St and Oregon St have all been to Omaha 5 times or less in their entire school history, but they all have won a title in the last 10 years and Oregon St won 2 titles during this timeframe. Vandy this week is making only their 3rd appearance ever in the CWS! Rice hasn't been to Omaha since 2008, but people remember them because they won it all in 2003. OTOH Florida St is the butt of the joke and the answer to which school has the most appearances in the CWS but has never won a title, Maybe their fans can make shirts and they can put a trophy in their case for that. Winning it all is what matters.

So the real question is do we have the coach who can win it all? Honestly, I don't know. And I've wasted considerable time studying coaches who have won national titles in the major sports.

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Except every conversation around here is about "getting to Omaha" just like every conversation in basketball is about "getting to the Final Four" just like so many conversations about college sports are framed about getting to the final weekend or week.

We've gone over this before. Winning it all is not all that matters. Everyone else are not equals.

Yes, Florida State is the butt of jokes from a group of folks that primarily are just jealous of their success. However, their coach is still there after 34 years, they draw big crowds, etc...

Yes, folks remember national champions and it matters if you have won a championship. However, that's not even remotely dispositive of saying nothing else matters.

I would rather be an Oregon St baseball fan the last 20 years then a FSU baseball fan. I'm into national titles, not national seeds. And honestly, if I was to die tomorrow, I would have rather been a Fresno St baseball fan then a FSU baseball fan because at least my team won it all once in my life.

I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy the 2012 Heisman season and beating OU's butt in the Cotton bowl. But I would trade that and all their other "great" seasons we have had since I was born in 1960 for 1 national championship in football. And I don't really care if my QB scores a 6 on the wonderlic. Not that I want my QB to be dumb, but I don't care if he is if we finally win a national title just once in my life!

You're probably young and don't think about such things. I remember when I was 25 and we won our first Cotton bowl (1985) and I just knew we were going to win the title, probably several before I turned 50. Now I'm turning 55 and I realize we might not win even one title in my life. I know plenty of Ags who were born after 1945 who went to their grave not seeing us win a title.

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If you're offered a fraction of a scholarship to play behind a couple guys, you can drive a few hours in any direction and find another quality program in Texas to play for.

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correct.

this is why you see some teams that have a few good years. a guy wants to play and wont get that chance at texas. so he goes to A&M or TCU or TECH.

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Awesome post, tsip.

Thats not true no matter how much you think it is. You probably think the same thing applies in football.

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Awesome post, tsip.

Thats not true no matter how much you think it is. You probably think the same thing applies in football.

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im not a tsip.

if you'll go back and read my post, it says "college baseball".
nice try though.

looks at tu's baseball history vs ags baseball history. this has always been and always will be.

2015 college baseball recruiting rankings according to Perfect Game

http://www.perfectgame.org/rankings/Recruiting/Rankings.aspx

#8 Texas A&M
#37 tu

so one year.

thanks for proving my point

Texas was pretty much out of the picture in the entire sport 3 of the last 4 years. I guess "always" took a break.

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Awesome post, tsip.

Thats not true no matter how much you think it is. You probably think the same thing applies in football.

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im not a tsip.

if you'll go back and read my post, it says "college baseball".
nice try though.

looks at tu's baseball history vs ags baseball history. this has always been and always will be.

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Of course you're not. You just happened to join today. Here's a hint, don't try so hard next time.

why do aggies get so worked up when someone speaks the truth? lol

you guys need to realize its college baseball in college station. the team will maybe get lucky with a few good guys every 10 years, but will ultimately fall short.


college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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why do aggies get so worked up when someone speaks the truth? lol

you guys need to realize its college baseball in college station. the team will maybe get lucky with a few good guys every 10 years, but will ultimately fall short.


college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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That is so silly. Texas is full of talent. If you are a NCAA Div I coach in Texas and you can't manage to find and develop good ball players you are a failure.

If you were talking about Siena or Sacred Heart or WVU some small snowy school in the North East you'd have a point.

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why do aggies get so worked up when someone speaks the truth? lol

you guys need to realize its college baseball in college station. the team will maybe get lucky with a few good guys every 10 years, but will ultimately fall short.


college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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Let me know when you speak the truth, especially with respect to the constant disparaging remarks about College Station when compared to Austin.

News flash - this isn't 1940 anymore. CS isn't exactly a one horse town these days, and Austin isn't the only city in Texas with bright lights and atmosphere either. You put way too much stock into a sideshow.

Step foot in Austin and you'll never get out due to the black hole that is I35 traffic.

At least highway 6 runs both ways.

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I would rather be an Oregon St baseball fan the last 20 years then a FSU baseball fan.

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There's no real indication that the Aggies will ever achieve the success of either program.

Arkansas has started making somewhat regular trips to Omaha in the last decade or so. So has North Carolina. Clemson did for a while. You've got to start getting there -- like South Carolina did. For every Fresno State (show up and win), there are probably 5 teams that took several appearances in close proximity to eventually win: UCLA, Miami (2 different times), Rice, Stanford, even LSU and to a lesser degree, Wichita St.

Since 2006, when RC was hired, these schools have multiple trips to Omaha:

Arizona
Arizona St.
Arkansas
Fullerton
Clemson
Florida
Florida St.
Georgia
Louisville
LSU
Miami
Miss St.
North Carolina
Oregon St.
Rice
South Carolina
TCU
t.u.
UCLA
Vandy
Virginia

Is there ANYONE on that list (other than maybe LSU, Miami, and FSU) that we should not be averaging at least as good of a ratio of seasons/Omaha trips?

Is Arizona going to go after Childress?

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why do aggies get so worked up when someone speaks the truth? lol

you guys need to realize its college baseball in college station. the team will maybe get lucky with a few good guys every 10 years, but will ultimately fall short.


college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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Let me know when you speak the truth, especially with respect to the constant disparaging remarks about College Station when compared to Austin.

News flash - this isn't 1940 anymore. CS isn't exactly a one horse town these days, and Austin isn't the only city in Texas with bright lights and atmosphere either. You put way too much stock into a sideshow.

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Don't forget Gainesville, Fayetteville, Baton Rouge, and StarkVegas, MS . . . all great college baseball towns and all comparable to CS.

Geez, times must really be tough for sip to be reduced to coming over here and running "city smack." Isn't there somebody from the Big DF he could go annoy?

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Is Arizona going to go after Childress?

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Apparently not:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/ua/2015/06/07/university-of-nevada-jay-johnson-university-of-arizona-baseball-greg-byrne/28665203/

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college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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Why would it be a disadvantage for baseball players but not track athletes or women's basketball players? Those programs have recent national championships. Is there a fundamental difference in what the 3 sets of athletes do on their own time in CS?

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college station is just at a disadvantage and always will be. no coach or AD will be able to change this.

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What a dumb ****ing troll who obviously doesn't follow college baseball or know a damn thing about the towns these teams come from. Go away.

I'd rather have this purgatory in baseball than the hell that is basketball right now.

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Is Arizona going to go after Childress?

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The thing about RC is that he makes too much money here for someone to snatch him. No school is going to pay him what we pay unless he starts making the CWS more often. And in that case, we would probably pay him more.

Football, baseball, and now even basketball have tricked Top 10 recruiting classes into living in College Station. The Cheddars we built out near the highway is working.

"Austin is so omgomgomg awesome" is all sip fans have left, that's why this clown is going to it.

And it's not really that great. It might be for late 20 to 30 something's, but it doesn't appeal to your average 17-24 year old any more than CS.

Why do haters always use "always" in their posts?

Oh yeah.. you know purgatory is not forever right? Only way out is to heaven!

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"Austin is so omgomgomg awesome" is all sip fans have left, that's why this clown is going to it.

And it's not really that great. It might be for late 20 to 30 something's, but it doesn't appeal to your average 17-24 year old any more than CS.

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I think you've got that backwards...Austin gets tougher the live in and deal with when you've got a real life that requires doing grown up things.

While College Station is terrible for young professionals and up...you really don't think there is something about 6th street, the drag, Rainey street, ACL, SXSW, etc..., etc... that's particularly attractive about Austin for college students?

What Austin marijuana are you smoking?

Now, I agree College Station isn't an excuse for recruiting or anything like that...but come on, now, but you look as silly trying to tell people a sleepy college town has as much pull for college kids as Austin.

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I would rather be an Oregon St baseball fan the last 20 years then a FSU baseball fan. I'm into national titles, not national seeds. And honestly, if I was to die tomorrow, I would have rather been a Fresno St baseball fan then a FSU baseball fan because at least my team won it all once in my life.

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That's great, and I hope you and your fellow Beaver fans enjoyed being a **** can of a program for the first 10 or so of those 20 years...it must be nice to have had such low expectations for years to have not fired Pat Casey like Florida State would have done.

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You're probably young and don't think about such things. I remember when I was 25 and we won our first Cotton bowl (1985) and I just knew we were going to win the title, probably several before I turned 50. Now I'm turning 55 and I realize we might not win even one title in my life. I know plenty of Ags who were born after 1945 who went to their grave not seeing us win a title.

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I have not thought about that, you're right. What I have thought about before is that one great memory might not be worth a lifetime of miserableness. I'd never hang my career or my life on one great memory...that sounds like I'll get fired a lot and spend a lot of time feeling pretty bad.

Anyways, I think you know as well as I do or anyone else that's not really how college athletics typically works out in the end. You've found a couple of extremes.

How many national titles has tu won recently? The same amount as Texas A&M.

And many people are now beginning to recognize how underrated College Station is and how overrated Asstin is. So what if Austin hosts ACL, SXSW, sixth st., etc. College Station is a place where we learn respect, show patriotism, stand up for what we believe in.

How can this tsip still be posting?

Come on staff

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"Austin is so omgomgomg awesome" is all sip fans have left, that's why this clown is going to it.

And it's not really that great. It might be for late 20 to 30 something's, but it doesn't appeal to your average 17-24 year old any more than CS.

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I think you've got that backwards...Austin gets tougher the live in and deal with when you've got a real life that requires doing grown up things.

While College Station is terrible for young professionals and up...you really don't think there is something about 6th street, the drag, Rainey street, ACL, SXSW, etc..., etc... that's particularly attractive about Austin for college students?

What Austin marijuana are you smoking?

Now, I agree College Station isn't an excuse for recruiting or anything like that...but come on, now, but you look as silly trying to tell people a sleepy college town has as much pull for college kids as Austin.

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I think all those positives you listed about Austin appeal much more to the mid-late 20s and up crowd. 17-23 year olds, especially athletes, just want to party, chase girls, etc. It's not like Austin has some monopoly on that. I don't think 17-23 year olds care too much about vegan dining options, poetry readings, and art exhibits.

Yep, all of those things are poetry readings which only serve vegan food.

Nothing like a good troll derailing the whole thread.

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Don't forget Gainesville, Fayetteville, Baton Rouge, and StarkVegas, MS . . . all great college baseball towns and all comparable to CS.

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the kids in gainesville and that area are not leaving that area to come to texas. baton rouge has already been discussed. starkville? lol they had 2 good years with will clark and they didnt even win.

fayetteville is the only exception. even though they havent been consistent.

Go away, tsip

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Is "wins in Omaha" a stat people keep?

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It is when folks are looking for reasons to fire a more than solid baseball coach.

Everyone keeps talking about how we did well for losing two aces on the mound, and I'd feel better about the season if that's what ultimately bit us in the behind but it's not. Our pitching did more than it needed to in order to win this series. Sure Saturday we got rocked but not once did our bats answer back. Poor hitting against real pitching is why we are on the couch. The question is whether bolt can build on this season or if this was a fluke. Regardless, we are light years ahead of where we were with sawdog and it's not even close.