I don't think it's really a bad look for TCU. Any coach they can hire is going to be a huge step down.

You would think that at some point UCLA would ask themselves why this kind of crap keeps happening to them with their coaching searches. Or hire a consultant that would spell it out for them in short easily understood sentences.

Looking like tcu is holding firm on the buyout.

It kinda is. The next guy won't get locked into that kind of buyout, providing he has a decent agent. So for attracting future coaches, it's a bad look. IMO.

I'm kind of friends with Cronin's brother. He was certain Mick would not leave. But has now gone silent on it.

Well this situation is exactly why TCU put that buyout in, they knew they were punching above their weight with Dixon. Whoever they hire next isn't going to have anywhere close to that kind of resume, so I don't think it's going to impact anyone they might hire in the future anyway.

This felt like a raise play early on but maybe he really is ready to leave.

Cincinnati is asking Mick to take a pay decrease. While nobody including Mick is happy about his tourney record. Micks a good coach. And asking him to take less is pathetic. It's a hard deal. The Cronin's are good people. And a huge part of Cincinnati. But the school is forcing Mick to take a job frankly I don't think he should.

Mick is the 49th highest head coach. Working with a budget in the 60s. Just last season got a good arena to play in. I'd say Mick getting into the tourney 9 straight years is well in line.

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Well obviously the coach wanting to leave isn't a good look, I just meant trying to hold him to his buyout isnt really a bad look.

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which is not what i'm referring to. They SHOULD try to hold him to the buyout. I'm saying the coach wanting to leave and ending up staying is bad for recruiting. Easy to tell recruits not to go there since the coach will bail as soon as he has a better offer than TCU.

Stackhouse with a 6 year deal at Vandy

Mikesyracuse1

Running updated list of coaching changes

It says it was last updated April 4th, but most of this weekends hires are on here. Add John Pelphrey to Tennessee Tech.

https://es.pn/2TGkqOc

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Running updated list of coaching changes

Last updated April 4th.

https://es.pn/2TGkqOc

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I believe UCLA was the first major school to have an opening this year and still don't have a HC. Not good evidence that firing your coach mid-season sets up you up for success by getting in the search early.

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Running updated list of coaching changes

Last updated April 4th.

https://es.pn/2TGkqOc

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I believe UCLA was the first major school to have an opening this year and still don't have a HC. Not good evidence that firing your coach mid-season sets up you up for success by getting in the search early.

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Evidently they talked to Rick Barnes and Lon Krueger this weekend.

Mikesyracuse1

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mikesyracuse1 said:

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Running updated list of coaching changes

Last updated April 4th.

https://es.pn/2TGkqOc

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I believe UCLA was the first major school to have an opening this year and still don't have a HC. Not good evidence that firing your coach mid-season sets up you up for success by getting in the search early.

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Evidently they talked to Rick Barnes and Lon Krueger this weekend.

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and Kruger has already issued a statement denying contact. Don't see either guy taking that job.

Lefraud, you need more edits to your OP. If you need help increasing that edit count, just let me know.

That UCLA job, if LeBron has been angling whatsoever to get Luke Walton fired, then if I was UCLA i'd be camping at his house and coming up with as much money as possible to try to make the sell. I think Luke Walton to UCLA would be fascinating.

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That UCLA job, if LeBron has been angling whatsoever to get Luke Walton fired, then if I was UCLA i'd be camping at his house and coming up with as much money as possible to try to make the sell. I think Luke Walton to UCLA would be fascinating.

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Plenty of easy-to-write storylines if that were to happen.

Has not removed name from consideration...but may very well be playing UCLA for a raise.

I like Rick Barnes, but UCLA needs to come to grips with who they are if he's their target.

UCLA's problem seems to be a an unwillingness to pony up big dollars, otherwise they would have paid Dixon's buyout, at least that's how it seems

It seems like they're willing to pay big on the contract, but they can't afford to pay big up front.

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UCLA's problem seems to be a an unwillingness to pony up big dollars, otherwise they would have paid Dixon's buyout, at least that's how it seems

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Agree. Barnes has a $5 million buyout. Not sure why they would pay 5 but not 8.

They still believe that the allure of Wooden means something to coaches. Since he was willing to be underpaid and deliver 10 championships, every great coach will want to do the same for them.

They don't know it yet, but they have decided they aren't going to compete with KU, UK, etc. and just money whip coaches. They are going to continue to struggle with pulling away a major college coach (although I suppose they still have a chance with Barnes).

They might find one that isn't in a good situation like Smart (as they did Howland) and convince him the grass is greener at Westwood, but that is a dicey proposition at best. And seeing how they treated Howland, who delivered 3 Final Four appearances, is going to keep most away.

They will ultimately have to reach into the mid-majors and hope they pull out a Chris Beard-type. That was how they got Wooden (Indiana State before UCLA), and it seems the only financial commitment they truly are buying into.

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UCLA's problem seems to be a an unwillingness to pony up big dollars, otherwise they would have paid Dixon's buyout, at least that's how it seems

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Dixon's not a blue blood-level coach, either. In fact, it would be hard to argue that Barnes isn't significantly better

If UCLA was serious about remaining a blue blood, they would have offered Calipari a 100 million dollar contract, but UCLA being Under Armour certainly doesn't help.

I think they are endangered of losing "blue blood" status over the next decade.

Nothing against Rick Barnes, but I think it would make more sense to look for a younger coach that can build your program and give you 15-20 years if all works out. If UCLA was already winning, then it would make sense to hire someone who could come in and keep the ship going. But UCLA needs a total rebuild. Barnes might be in his late 60's and ready to retire just as things get going.

I think it would make more sense for UCLA to talk to Randy Bennett (56) at St. Mary's or Russell Turner (48) at UC Irvine.

That's a good point.

Tennessee burger place wants Barnes to stay

Mullin stepping down at St. John's.... weird