twk, the uncertainty i was talking about is with the students who live out of the Brazos Valley in regards to whether or not they can attend the game: they have to know if they are free and if they can find a ride to the game, thats pretty difficult to know 48 hours in advance, but the argument i was making is that because of this uncertainty (however minor or "unwarranted" ) it was enough to make many not register given the belief that they could just walk up at game time. I live in college station so i registered and my brother tried to register but it wouldnt let him

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the uncertainty i was talking about is with the students who live out of the Brazos Valley in regards to whether or not they can attend the game: they have to know if they are free and if they can find a ride to the game, thats pretty difficult to know 48 hours in advance

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Sorry, not buying that. If you're in Midland, Brownsville, or Dalhart, OK, but for at least 75% of students located in BCS, NW Harris County, or much of Central Texas, logistics are not a problem. Should have been enough of those folks to account for all 4,000+ student tickets.

read the sentence after the part you quoted. I conceeded that it may be seen as minor or irrelevant but it was enough to have students not register given the assumption that they would have been able to walk up. thats why i wanted byrne to just inform students of his intentions cause then more students would have registered

this is absolutely terrible and as a current student i am embarassed by this.

I blame old army for not raising more aware, passionate new army!

Then I blame bobinator, for not personally calling every student to tell them about the game.

Then I blame the yell leaders.. because everyone else says it is cool to hate them!

The policy was slightly changed, and there was no indication of this before the registration closed. With that said, it is still the responsibility of the student to register. However, if students weren't sure if they could make the game in the previous semester, they wouldn't register in fear of losing two points, like several other posters have mentioned.

Alumni, if you haven't been to a home game yet, don't think that us students have been routinely filling only 20% of our allotment. I have been to all but one of the games during the semester, and I would venture a guess that 70%-80% of the students seats have been filled by students. I can almost guarantee that starting with Colorado, the students will be at roughly 95% capacity for the remainder of the year.

I am a student...I registered...I live four hours away...I will be there.

btho LSU!

i am a student, i registered for my ticket, i've known about this game since day one, i found a place to stay so i CAN attend the game.

maybe the AD should have the registration for the games over christmas break before everyone leaves. that way, you get your admission and you know what games you're going to, whether or not you need to find someone to stay with, find others going to the game to carpool with, etc, etc. that way no student has a good excuse to miss the game. and it will be stated before hand that any unclaimed tickets will be sold in order to boost attendance so there won't be griping by people that chose not to register.

I'm pretty sure it has been the plan all along to sell any unclaimed tickets to the public. I think they should have an option for students to purchase entry to the game in a situation like this and be refunded the money when they show up to the game and swipe thier ID.
I think that they made a mistake by allowing students to get a point for the lottery by attending a game even though they did not register. For all the games so far there has ben no reason to register since there was nothing close to a sell out. I thought this was how it was originally drawn up but I guess they changed it...

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You can twist things any way you want, that tells everyone exactly where the lack of support is coming from.

The students only care about the big games.

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can you show me a breakdown of the percentage of students present as compared to the percentage of non students present at the Rice game? how can you be so sure that the poor attendance was due entirely to the absence of students... as i remember (and my memory does suck sometimes) there were empty seat all over the arena.
i must say however... your angst towards the students is probably wasted on this board as most of the student posters here probably take the time to attend as many games as fit into their schedules.

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God i want to go to this game so freaking bad...too bad i get my wisdom teeth out Friday morning...

ccquinlan-I was also at the rice game, one of the few I had an opportunity to attend, took the wife and kids. As I recall the student section appeared to be about 1/3 full, including those of us who can't, at this time, afford season tickets while the rest of the arena was about 1/2 full.

To those upset with the current system and the fact that the student tickets were put up for sale to the general public-this game has been on the schedule for a while so saying you didn't know about it doesn't fly. Saying you may have trouble lining up a ride to town doesn't fly either since you knew this game was coming since last semester and should have been able to arrange transportation, when I was in school my parent's would have let me use one of their cars to come back for something like this so not a good reason. If an Ag has a reason to get somewhere he, or she, can usually figure out a way to make it happen, or at least we used to be able to.

I would have killed for the chance to see this game but alas I have to work but will be listening to good ole Dave South on the radio and probably screaming at it from time to time to incite the team.

At the FAM game, there were NOT many students--or if there were, they were just sitting and watching. Maybe two hundred other than the band and the dance team. The rest of general admission appeared to be locals--lots of families with kids.

At the other game I attended, on the Saturday before Christmas, there were more students. In general admission, the chair area on the traditional student side was pretty full with students. The rest of the general admission was the public.

at the FAM game i sat up in the balcony at half court... i wonder how many students sit in spots other than the assigned student area (like i did) when the arena appears empty?

Many may, but that negates the intimidation value of having loud standing students under both goals.

At the FAMU game there were no more than 50 students. I was sitting in 109 which is adjacent the student section and that section's median age was probably between 40 and 50. I've been to 4 games so far and it's quite apparent the students are interested in the games with tu, KU, etc. and not really interested in supporting this team or program. You students can bash me if you want, but there's no way the student sections have been much more than 50% full at any of the 4 games I've been to.

The student section was over 50% at all the games i've been at, which was every game prior to december 14th. The students care, the problem is that college station isn't a convenient location if you don't live there, and the athletic department does an awful job of promoting the games.

I don't live in BCS and I know when all the games are. The root problem reading this thread seems to be the students want to be spoon fed - tell me when the game is, remind me when the game is, tell me how to get my ticket, make sure no one else gets my ticket if I don't follow the procedure and have a last minute change of heart and on and on.

Glad you're making the drive Kenneth

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The student section was over 50% at all the games i've been at, which was every game prior to december 14th.

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Does anyone else find this hilarious?

New Army lives at Reed Arena

Look, I was a student for 4 years and I made every game that I was in the country for, and I would never say that students deserve more seating, more prime locations, or make any excuses for them. The fact of the matter is that the students don't support this team the way they should. If there really were 3000 students who planned on walking up to the game, then that's just a perfect example. If we were playing tu, students would know that more than 4000 students would have wanted to go to the game and consequently would have entered the registration. It's the fact that everybody knows you can just walk up that makes it bad. It's sad that our basketball fans still largely show up to watch who we play, not our top 10 team. I think it's admirable that the AD set aside more seats for students which they could not make money off of, but ultimately it was the wrong decision. Our students do not know how to support a team and you're keeping out people who WANT to go to the game and would even be willing to pay 2 or 3 times face value to do so.

Students, because you can sell out tu and tech does not impress me at all.

they seem to think it's impressive though Hotard

If you are honestly crying about students not showing up to the winter break games, you are an idiot.

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Students not showing up at one of the top 5 most anticipated matchups of all-time at Reed Arena is probably something to worry about.

New Army lives at Reed Arena

top 5 most anticipated matchups of all time? I don't really think that's true.

Really only Juniors and above who were here for the tournament care. Most non die-hard fans probably don't even realize that they beat us last year because nobody cared until we got to conference play last year either.

Im talking about overall enthusiasm from the fanbase. Its painfully obvious that the students arent anticipating this one, so thats not what I meant.

Name 5 games that were a hotter ticket than this one in the history of Reed Arena? You certainly cant name 10.

New Army lives at Reed Arena

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Now those students wont be able to watch their team because the AD sold their seats

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Yes they will. There will not be even one student turned away Saturday night.

13,203 Texas A&M vs. Missouri 3/3/07
13,196 Texas A&M vs. Texas 2/5/07
13,187 Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma State 1/20/07
13,176 Texas A&M vs. Texas 3/1/06
13,151 Texas A&M vs. St. Joseph’s 3/23/05
13,136 Texas A&M vs. Texas Tech 2/26/05
13,051 Texas A&M vs. Baylor 2/24/07
13,048 Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma 1/27/07
13,016 Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma State 2/12/05
12,926 Texas A&M vs. Texas Tech 2/13/07

You have to keep in mind that another reason why this game is already sold out is because it's part of the Saturday 6 pack which includes the Kansas game. Here's 9 games that were much more "looked forward to" with the attendance numbers.

Yeah, I don't get the whole lottery argument. People like me and others on this thread drive in from Houston and Dallas to go to the games (several midweek games as well….having to work the next day), why the hell can't the students? No one is saying that you have to spend the night. I could see maybe if you lived in Lubbock or Corpus, but Houston (1.5 hours away) or Dallas (< 3 hours away) or Austin (1.5 hours away) is pretty much inexcusable. Especially when you are on break and most of you don't have sh*t else going on. I definitely know that most of you don't have anything going on Sunday that you couldn't get in a little late for (yes, even church). To say that many didn't register because they didn't know if they could make it, when they don't have anything else going on is laughable at best.

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Here's 9 games that were much more "looked forward to" with the attendance numbers.

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I like to keep track of how tickets are selling aftermarket and how hard they are to get. You might not have one game on that list that was as highly sought after as this one is by the former students. Basically only the Texas games, the '05 Tech game, and last years oSu game.



New Army lives at Reed Arena

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Amazing. Well, its not extremely impressive because of circumstances, but I hadn't thought about it before. I was there for 19 out of the 20 listed highest attended Aggie Basketball games.

New Army lives at Reed Arena

Attendance doesn't always reflect demand.

Baylor in '07 was not in high demand.

As far as last year goes, Texas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Missouri were the "high demand" games. Everything else most everyone was able to get tickets to if they wanted them.

Having people actively seeking out tickets and being willing to pay a lot more than face before a game, as was happening for this game, has not happened more than 5 times at Reed Arena.

New Army lives at Reed Arena

Last year: Texas, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Missouri (and Oklahoma too, but not to the same degree).

Year before last: Texas (and maybe Texas Tech, I can't remember).