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mhayden, I'd like to refer you to my previous post in case you missed it

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I saw it and choose to ignore it.

Anyone who has been around Texags knows my dedication to the basketball team -- even in those years where there was no "bandwagon".

You likely don't because you weren't around when we sucked. I was, and I was dragging people to the games.

I now have two pairs of season tickets that either get used by me, sold at face value, or given away.

I think I'm doing my part.

Keep telling yourself that, whiner.


And I rarely missed a game even during my time as a student in the Watkins era

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Keep telling yourself that, whiner.


And I rarely missed a game even during my time as a student in the Watkins era

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Great... Where are your season tickets located this year?

Bill Byrne should personally drive to every student's house who didn't register via the defined process and give them a ticket. Additionally, he could pick them up for the game on Saturday too.

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Bill Byrne should personally drive to every student's house who didn't register via the defined process and give them a ticket. Additionally, he could pick them up for the game on Saturday too.

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The first thing I thought about when people were saying that others "might not have known there was a game" or they "forgot to register" was the mom that posted a few weeks back trying to figure out if her son would be able to get a ticket

On my couch because I live in Dallas and it's not financially feasible for me to buy season tickets and drive to College Station for every game.


But you're totally missing my point. Harping on people via Texags is just annoying and completely useless. If you want to make a difference, talk to the athletic department about it

[This message has been edited by Tobias Funke (edited 1/3/2008 6:10p).]

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On my couch because I live in Dallas and it's not financially viable for me to buy season tickets and drive to College Station for every game.

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Really? I live in Fort Worth and bought and use a pair of tickets for myself as well as a pair for my business.


So please don't question my support when it looks like it trumps yours ten-fold. Obviously I have a bit more invested in this team, so maybe that's why I'm a little more upset and "whiny" about things.

To mhayden and twk:

Sorry to confuse you but i was one of the 1000 who registered and i will be at the game, but as a student i know how the students feel about registering and since school doesnt start for another week and a half there is uncertainty whether or not you can make the game. So instead of registering and possibly losing 2 points, people dont register and decide to walk up and get to watch the game ans still get the 1 point for the lottery. These people were not counting on the AD selling the tickets that were not registered for and had they known, they would have registered. My argument is that the AD should have informed the students of their intentions before the lottery registration. I am in a uniques situation cause i am one of the few students who live in College Station so it is easy for me to attend. As for the many students who live out of the Brazos Valley, there were many students who wanted to attend the game but didnt register because of the uncertainty i mentioned before. Now these students will not be able to watch the game because the AD is selling all of the tickets. So there will be fewer students at the game on saturday but it will not be because of the students, it will be because of Byrne, and the atmosphere will suffer accordingly.

Yay! You have more money than me! You win!


Keep annoying people. You're doing a wonderful job

So because Byrne is seeing that the students aren't even taking HALF of their allotment (and instead using a "wait and see" attitude) and decides to sell those tickets to the general public who has shown they WANT to attend this game and are ready to make the financial commitment NOW (instead of "waiting and seeing", HE is the bad guy?

Byrne wants a full house. The students decided not to register and in doing so made it possible that our first big home non-conference game could have 3000+ empty seats. Byrne decided not to let that happen and is opening the tickets up to those who want them.

Does Byrne like money? Sure, any A.D. does -- but if only 1000 tickets were allocated out of 5000 1.5 days before the game and they WEREN'T opened up to the public you would have hundreds of people (including myself) *****ing about why the public was given a shot to buy the tickets the students obviously didn't want.

This isn't Byrne's fault -- this is the STUDENTS fault for taking a "wait and see" attitude.

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Yay! You have more money than me! You win!

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Money has nothing to do with -- I choose to make sacrifices so that I can support this basketball team. You don't.

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Keep annoying people. You're doing a wonderful job

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If you recall above, I chose to ignore your initial post and you were the one that kept bringing it up.

Then students BUY a ticket. Twenty bucks. Bet you spend that on a Saturday at northgate once a month at least.

So sorry you did not register, but you can buy a ticket and get in IF you really want to see the game.

If we want to list sacrifices (time and money) that we've both made for the program, we can and I'm sure everyone will be very impressed with us.

You are obviously not getting my point so I'll let it go. If you can't see that you're preaching to the choir on a website designed for the people who live and breathe this stuff, I don't know what to say

ok myhaden im usually not one to act like a ***** like so many Texags posters but you have serious reading comprehension problems. i said that my argument is not that he is selling the tickets now but that he did not inform the students of his intentions. Again, just because 1000 students registered, that does not mean that 1000 students were gonna show up. Go back and read my post explaining this. If you have to you may print it out and use a highlighter, ive been told it helps.

Man I wish I could be there for it.

First, it's the students do not know when games are- even though they are advertised at the football games, hey are in the Batt, there is a calendar on the Athletics website, you can download EVERY sports calendar into your Outlook calendar from the Athletic website, etc.

Now, Byrne OWES the students a personal message so they can decide whether to go to the game or not.

I think Byrne needs to take the average of the pre-season games and make that number of tickets available for the students in the upper levels. He can put the rest on sale for season ticket holders or fans really interested in supporting the team. Any leftover tickets can be made available for walk ups.

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If we want to list sacrifices (time and money) that we've both made for the program, we can and I'm sure everyone will be very impressed with us.

You are obviously not getting my point so I'll let it go. If you can't see that you're preaching to the choir on a website designed for the people who live and breathe this stuff, I don't know what to say

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And my point is, this is an internet message board -- *****ing, whining and moaning doesn't make up about 75% of internet message boards around.

It's a place where you post your thoughts -- and my thoughts are that the students are really dropping the ball on supporting this team.

Does my whining really do anything? Maybe it makes a few people realize just how bad support is... but maybe not.

But does making a post "Wow Joseph Jones had a great night tonight." do anything? No. But people still do it.

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ok myhaden im usually not one to act like a ***** like so many Texags posters but you have serious reading comprehension problems. i said that my argument is not that he is selling the tickets now but that he did not inform the students of his intentions. Again, just because 1000 students registered, that does not mean that 1000 students were gonna show up. Go back and read my post explaining this. If you have to you may print it out and use a highlighter, ive been told it helps.

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The registration process was clearly posted.

The registration opening date/time was clearly posted.

The registration closing date/time was clearly posted.


If you had not registered before the closing date/time, you were not guaranteed a ticket (or place in the lottery, as the case may be).


BB could have cut the un-claimed tickets into Christmas decorations for all it matters -- the fact of the matter is, the students knew the deadline and chose not to register before it.

Now the students complain that instead of BB just letting the arena sit 4000 people short less than 48 hours before the game, he proactively went out and made those tickets available for sale to the GENERAL PUBLIC -- the same GENERAL PUBLIC that when given the opportunity to buy tickets JUMPED AT THE CHANCE and SOLD OUT their portion of Reed Arena in RECORD TIME.



Basically the entire student arguement revovles around not wanting to make a committment 48 hours ahead of time.

Bravo students, bravo.

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I think Byrne needs to take the average of the pre-season games and make that number of tickets available for the students in the upper levels. He can put the rest on sale for season ticket holders or fans really interested in supporting the team. Any leftover tickets can be made available for walk ups.

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If it weren't for the loss of potential atmosphere (because anyway you slice it, the students ARE louder than the alumni as a whole), I would be 100% behind this.

while the opening and closing times of registration are posted, what was not posted was his intention to sell the extra tickets that were not registered for- and since he was deviating from the normal procedure, i believe he should have posted those intentions. Again, i have no problem with him selling the extra tickets if he would have said thats what he was going to do, cause then he wouldnt be preventing students from attending who wanted to go.

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while the opening and closing times of registration are posted, what was not posted was his intention to sell the extra tickets that were not registered for

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What exactly do you think students thought would happen to the tickets once the registration closed?

That Byrne would put them in a little swimming pool and roll around in them?

I don't feel sorry for the students at all. I hope they all get sold and the 1000 students who show up have a good time.

I think students thought that they would be available for walk up- like they are every other game.

So you knew what you had to do to 100% guaranteed get tickets.

And you didn't do it.

And now you're upset that you may have to pay for tickets.

Wow.

2011 -- I'm sorry you're getting hosed on this one. You are going to try to walkup though, correct?

again, very poor reading comprehension by mhayden

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To mhayden and twk:

Sorry to confuse you but i was one of the 1000 who registered and i will be at the game

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im starting to think that highlighter idea might help you

I guess we keep missing it because the only possible way anyone could be complaining about what happened is if they were just really pissed off that they didn't get a ticket.

You really have no leg to stand on. These kids are in freaking COLLEGE and were told EXACTLY what they needed to do to GUARANTEE tickets.

And they didn't do it.

Everything else is irrelevant.

The students were wrong, it is their own fault, and they will learn. End of story. This is not the athletic departments fault. They have a ****load of bells and whistles going off Im sure because a game they have been touting as sold out for weeks, that their fans are paying two and three times face value to get tickets for, and here they are 48 hours ahead of time and they have 3-4000 empty seats with NO IDEA whether students are going to show up or not. This system has never existed before and you expect them to just assume students will miraculously appear on faith??? They are doing what they know will fill the seats, not praying for a group that already had their shot at the tickets suddenly shows up prior to the game.

New Army lives at Reed Arena

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A student with a sports pass does not have to pay. Get your ass to the ticket office tomorrow and pull with your sports pass. If thats too hard, then you should have registered if you are hundreds of miles away.

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I'm sorry, I'm just finding this "students didn't know" bullcrap just that....bullcrap.

You people have access to every technology known to man, and you can't figure it out without someone holding your hand?

I'm totally with mhayden on this one.

Plus they sold unclaimed student football tickets at least last season. I am not sure there were any unclaimed this past year.

No reason to have empty seats at a sold out game.



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JJxvi- i agree that the best move now is for Byrne to sell the remaining tickets, my only argument has been that i would have liked Byrne to inform the students of his intentions because many more students would have registered and been able to attend the game allowing for a better atmosphere

mhayden- i dont know what to say to you, we obvously dont agree and you fail to think logically. on your last post. 1.) you do not have to be screwed over by something to see the possible injustices and probelms in it. 2.) you seem to see this issue as very black and white and fail to realize that many students were acting on assumptions that have held true the last couple years. My only argument is that i wish he would have cleared up those assumptions so the students who wanted to go could go and then we could all sit on here and ***** about the rest of the students

I said in another thread. Im sure Byrne had no idea that he'd have to do this for a sold out game. This is a learning experience for everybody.

BTW, this is also the way football tickets are handled. Student tickets are sold to the public if there is demand and there are still some available on Friday.

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i agree JJxvi, and if nothing else it will remind all of the students to register

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i said that my argument is not that he is selling the tickets now but that he did not inform the students of his intentions.

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BB has every right to sell the tickets, so I don't really have a problem with that. I am in Colorado so obviously I won't be at the game, but Im a student so I know a bunch of people who planned on going. I let most of them know to go ahead and purchase them. The problem is that most students still dont know that byrne is selling the tickets, unless they read texags which is a small percentage.

I can guarantee you that none of the students that registered did so with the thought in mind that they needed to make sure they got a ticket. They did it because they knew they were going and did it to do it, just like I registered for every game throughout last semester. But everyone knew that most students would plan on walking up an hr or so before game time and that tickets would still be availiable.

So BB should expect to have some confused and pissed students walking up saturday night since they never sent an email out about it (I got an email about the game from the athletic dept today, but it didn't even mention this change) and they never attempted to inform the students of their attentions.

There is no change. This is how they do football tickets after everyone has had a chance to pull as well.

FTACof2011: I guess I'm not following you on this "uncertainty" issue. Exactly what was uncertain? Gametime has been set forever. Other than uncertainty over whether or not you'd be awarded tickets by registering (and it sounds like that was known to be a near certainty), I can't really think of any uncertainty in the process. A student who was contemplating going to the game should have been in a position by noon today to pull the trigger and register.