Ah.

As I am not on any tour CURRENTLY, no apparent benefit for me.

Sooper Jeenyus said:

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Ah.

As I am not on any tour CURRENTLY, no apparent benefit for me.

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I am also going to go out on a limb and guess you are also not a PROFFESSIONAL lol

EliteElectric said:

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Sooper Jeenyus said:

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Ah.

As I am not on any tour CURRENTLY, no apparent benefit for me.

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I am also going to go out on a limb and guess you are also not a PROFFESSIONAL lol

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Yes. As I said, I am not on any professional tour CURRENTLY.

Here's what LIV did. They forced the pga hand on things. They also pushed the envelope on how golf was played. In the end, most of those things did not work. So, it will be a generation or more before someone tries to say that golf needs this or that. LIV also allowed some newer guys on the pga tour to become stars by removing spots that the LIV guys had that went to newer guys. Did LIV grow the game? Only in South Africa and Australia.

LIV is responsible for creating the new PGAT structure beginning in 2028, which I think will be great for the game. I know I'll be tuning in for every Championship event, as I'm looking forward to seeing some potential big names guy fight for their card week in and week out. It will be a breath of fresh air to not see Matt Kuchar teeing it up in these evens just because he was a name 15 years ago.

The PGAT will be more competitive and cutthroat than it has ever been before, and I think that will grow viewership and (eventually) the game.

safety guy said:

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Here's what LIV did. They forced the pga hand on things. They also pushed the envelope on how golf was played. In the end, most of those things did not work. So, it will be a generation or more before someone tries to say that golf needs this or that. LIV also allowed some newer guys on the pga tour to become stars by removing spots that the LIV guys had that went to newer guys. Did LIV grow the game? Only in South Africa and Australia.

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They didn't push the envelope on how golf was played. They lit $6 billion on fire and have nothing to show for it.

Not sure I agree with this. PGAT will have two tiers and KFT is still there.

Also means Champions tour guys can't play in local/hometown Challenger events. Texas fans certainly aren't benefitting.

Guess I don't see the upside. The tour already has no-cut events for top ranked players. Are we really looking to funnel more $$ to the top players?

Not sure how cutthroat it is when guys like Austin Smotherman can stack fall wins and be eligible for the championship series until 2030. They got rid of sponsor invites but the guys who won majors this year are exempt for championship series events for like 5 years too.

Sooper Jeenyus said:

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Not sure I agree with this. PGAT will have two tiers and KFT is still there.

Also means Champions tour guys can't play in local/hometown Challenger events. Texas fans certainly aren't benefitting.

Guess I don't see the upside. The tour already has no-cut events for top ranked players. Are we really looking to funnel more $$ to the top players?

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Between the PGAT/KF/Champions, TX will have plenty of opportunities for kids/families to attend, which is what grows the game.

Again, I could care less about old hacks being a part of the tour, that doesn't grow the game. That's why the Champions Tour exist, so people that want to go see their favorite golfer from 30 years ago, still can.

_lefraud_ said:

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Sooper Jeenyus said:

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Not sure I agree with this. PGAT will have two tiers and KFT is still there.

Also means Champions tour guys can't play in local/hometown Challenger events. Texas fans certainly aren't benefitting.

Guess I don't see the upside. The tour already has no-cut events for top ranked players. Are we really looking to funnel more $$ to the top players?

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Between the PGAT/KF/Champions, TX will have plenty of opportunities for kids/families to attend, which is what grows the game.

Again, I could care less about old hacks being a part of the tour, that doesn't grow the game. That's why the Champions Tour exist, so people that want to go see their favorite golfer from 30 years ago, still can.

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TX will have plenty of opportunities to see the top players? Champions events?

Which ones?

Who cares about growing the game? Covid handled that already. Country clubs that have been taking new members are overloaded to where they are charging exorbitant fees to join, monthly fees have gone bonkers, and the tee sheets are so loaded they are like a crowded public course. I have a friend who joined Gleneagles this summer ($80k initiation, $1500 dues) but still plays public courses on the weekend because it is so jammed up

The "top players" will be in TX for two/three times most years.

But 90% of fans don't attend these events to see the top players, kids and families won't even know the difference between a Championship and Challenger event.

_lefraud_ said:

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The "top players" will be in TX for two/three times most years.

But 90% of fans don't attend these events to see the top players, kids and families won't even know the difference between a Championship and Challenger event.

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Curious what events you're referring to. Looks like none of the Texas events will make the cut for the championship series.

DFW will most definitely have one, obviously not Colonial but the metroplex will have a Championship event. PGA will have events at Fields Ranch spread across several years over the next decade.

My guess is that another Championship event will maybe rotate between Houston, San Antonio and Austin.

I'd guess that between the Challenger, Korn Ferry and Champions tour, TX will host an additional 3-4 events every year, too.