LIV Shutting Down?

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I'm curious if Rahm were to win a second green jacket, would the PGAT extend an invitation for membership?
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_lefraud_ said:

I'm curious if Rahm were to win a second green jacket, would the PGAT extend an invitation for membership?

Highly unlikely. The PGA Tour membership is going to want their pound of flesh or for him to earn his way back at this point.
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Does the PGAT have control over sponsors' exemptions?
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Rahm appears to be headed to dp euro tour. He has no status on pga tour. Then would earn membership in 2028 if he meets criteria. Also pga tour could just change their rules and allow him back too
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bagger05 said:

Does the PGAT have control over sponsors' exemptions?


Almost positive they do. And I'm pretty sure as part of Koepka's deal, he wasn't eligible for sponsors' exemptions, at least for the signature events.
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JCA1 said:

bagger05 said:

Does the PGAT have control over sponsors' exemptions?


Almost positive they do. And I'm pretty sure as part of Koepka's deal, he wasn't eligible for sponsors' exemptions, at least for the signature events.
I think I read on the Championship Series in 2028 that there will be zero sponsorship exemptions. Rahm better make hay in 2027 on the DP Tour ala Patrick Reed in 2026 to earn his card. He is definitely going to have to pay a monster fine and be good with it.
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2wealfth Man said:

JCA1 said:

bagger05 said:

Does the PGAT have control over sponsors' exemptions?


Almost positive they do. And I'm pretty sure as part of Koepka's deal, he wasn't eligible for sponsors' exemptions, at least for the signature events.
I think I read on the Championship Series in 2028 that there will be zero sponsorship exemptions. Rahm better make hay in 2027 on the DP Tour ala Patrick Reed in 2026 to earn his card. He is definitely going to have to pay a monster fine and be good with it.

That's my understanding too. Sponsors exemptions are going away after next year.

I guess you can never say never, but I would be very surprised if the tour gave Rahm a path back next year. Plus, there's also the added factor that it's a Ryder Cup year and Rahm probably still needs to mend some fences with the DP world tour.

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Rahm will play on the DP World Tour in 2027 along with certain events he is qualified to play in the USA such as The Masters, US Open, etc. just like Patrick Reed is doing this year to be on the PGA Tour in 2027.
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I believe a 5yr exemption comes with winning a major but maybe that only applies to active PGAT members
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_lefraud_ said:

I believe a 5yr exemption comes with winning a major but maybe that only applies to active PGAT members

That is the catch I think, no PGAT tour membership for Rahm

Edit to add: Rahm is a member who is in suspended status and there are a lot of potential outcomes in that universe and it is not clear at this point what it would take to get off of the suspended list. There also guys who resigned their membership (Sergio Garcia is one) that are in a whole different universe when it comes to regaining status. The guys who signed on the lawsuit should also be in a "special" class for these purposes and then there is a one Phil M. who should never see the light of day again on the PGAT, ever.
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Given his Spanish nationality and his often publicized enjoyment of European golf, I don't think the DP Tour for a year matters at all to Rahm.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Given his Spanish nationality and his often publicized enjoyment of European golf, I don't think the DP Tour for a year matters at all to Rahm.

Having four children under five years old and residing in the U.S. may be a factor.
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Fair enough, but it hasn't been a factor for him the last couple years flying all over the world.
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Marauder Blue 6 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

Given his Spanish nationality and his often publicized enjoyment of European golf, I don't think the DP Tour for a year matters at all to Rahm.

Having four children under five years old and residing in the U.S. may be a factor.

the fact that I had know clue he has 4 kids now goes to show what LIV did to his marketability.

thought he just had his second haha
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ag979 said:

Marauder Blue 6 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

Given his Spanish nationality and his often publicized enjoyment of European golf, I don't think the DP Tour for a year matters at all to Rahm.

Having four children under five years old and residing in the U.S. may be a factor.

the fact that I had know clue he has 4 kids now goes to show what LIV did to his marketability.

thought he just had his second haha


They all fell off the face of the earth (into a giant pile of money)
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4 kids in 5 years. His sperm thinks they are conquistadors.
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Sounds like he needs to work on his pull-out game
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He is doing that with LIV 2.0
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Rahm officially done with LIV. No surprise.
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Former world No. 1 golfer Jon Rahm and LIV Golf reached a separation agreement Wednesday, in which Rahm agreed to release all of his monetary and economic claims against the embattled circuit in exchange for the return of his exclusive name, image and likeness rights and other related marks, according to court records.


https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/50188685/jon-rahm-reaches-separation-agreement-liv-golf
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bagger05 said:

Rahm officially done with LIV. No surprise.
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Former world No. 1 golfer Jon Rahm and LIV Golf reached a separation agreement Wednesday, in which Rahm agreed to release all of his monetary and economic claims against the embattled circuit in exchange for the return of his exclusive name, image and likeness rights and other related marks, according to court records.


https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/50188685/jon-rahm-reaches-separation-agreement-liv-golf


Wasn't lack of autonomy over their NIL one of the reasons Phil and others gave for why they hated the tour? And come to find out, they all signed their NIL over to LIV in an even more restrictive fashion? Color me shocked.
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JCA1 said:

bagger05 said:

Rahm officially done with LIV. No surprise.
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Former world No. 1 golfer Jon Rahm and LIV Golf reached a separation agreement Wednesday, in which Rahm agreed to release all of his monetary and economic claims against the embattled circuit in exchange for the return of his exclusive name, image and likeness rights and other related marks, according to court records.


https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/50188685/jon-rahm-reaches-separation-agreement-liv-golf


Wasn't lack of autonomy over their NIL one of the reasons Phil and others gave for why they hated the tour? And come to find out, they all signed their NIL over to LIV in an even more restrictive fashion? Color me shocked.

Phil has been and always will be a fraud. It just took some longer to figure it out. Phil is like a politician. If his mouth is moving, he is lying.
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JCA1 said:

bagger05 said:

Rahm officially done with LIV. No surprise.
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Former world No. 1 golfer Jon Rahm and LIV Golf reached a separation agreement Wednesday, in which Rahm agreed to release all of his monetary and economic claims against the embattled circuit in exchange for the return of his exclusive name, image and likeness rights and other related marks, according to court records.


https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/50188685/jon-rahm-reaches-separation-agreement-liv-golf


Wasn't lack of autonomy over their NIL one of the reasons Phil and others gave for why they hated the tour? And come to find out, they all signed their NIL over to LIV in an even more restrictive fashion? Color me shocked.

He probably has a bunch of leftover Legion XIII merch he needs to sell.
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LIV was a fraud along with its major conspirators like Phil, Norman, etc.
Enrico Pallazzo
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If I ever have a Brewster's Millions situation where I have to burn massive amounts of cash in a hurry with nothing to show for it at the end, I may start LIV 2.0
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

JCA1 said:

bagger05 said:

Rahm officially done with LIV. No surprise.
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Former world No. 1 golfer Jon Rahm and LIV Golf reached a separation agreement Wednesday, in which Rahm agreed to release all of his monetary and economic claims against the embattled circuit in exchange for the return of his exclusive name, image and likeness rights and other related marks, according to court records.


https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/50188685/jon-rahm-reaches-separation-agreement-liv-golf


Wasn't lack of autonomy over their NIL one of the reasons Phil and others gave for why they hated the tour? And come to find out, they all signed their NIL over to LIV in an even more restrictive fashion? Color me shocked.

Phil has been and always will be a fraud. It just took some longer to figure it out. Phil is like a politician. If his mouth is moving, he is lying.
I am sure Phil collected some nice "placement fees" for the guys he convinced to come over to LIV. He should never sniff a tour sanctioned event again at any level.
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He better keep that gambling habit under control because he will forever be persona non grata in professional golf and his name is no longer marketable because even if you are good with his LIV bs, now he's a perv too. His future income streams are basically gone.
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I'm trying to think. Is there any other sports fall from grace as big as Phil's? From top 2 in the sport (and arguably the fan favorite) to a guy who can't even show his face in the golf ecosystem. Other than OJ, I can't think of any modern comparisons.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

He better keep that gambling habit under control because he will forever be persona non grata in professional golf and his name is no longer marketable because even if you are good with his LIV bs, now he's a perv too. His future income streams are basically gone.

Don't worry. He can hang with his boy toy Grant Horvat and his YT buddies.
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JCA1 said:

I'm trying to think. Is there any other sports fall from grace as big as Phil's? From top 2 in the sport (and arguably the fan favorite) to a guy who can't even show his face in the golf ecosystem. Other than OJ, I can't think of any modern comparisons.

OJ is probably #1 by a wide margin, but Lance Armstrong might be right there with Phil
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Armstrong doesn't bother me just like Bonds. They knew everyone was cheating but found a way to do it better. Doesn't make it right, just part of competing during their eras.
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SteakandPizza said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

He better keep that gambling habit under control because he will forever be persona non grata in professional golf and his name is no longer marketable because even if you are good with his LIV bs, now he's a perv too. His future income streams are basically gone.

Don't worry. He can hang with his boy toy Grant Horvat and his YT buddies.


Nah, I think he's too much of a degenerate for even youtube. He's been a ghost. He's persona non-grata in the entire golf sphere. I have no doubt that Grant was going to have him as one of his "Wildcards," so that probably sent him scrambling.

I don't know how FIGJAM even BEGINS go about getting any part of his image rehabbed.
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

JCA1 said:

I'm trying to think. Is there any other sports fall from grace as big as Phil's? From top 2 in the sport (and arguably the fan favorite) to a guy who can't even show his face in the golf ecosystem. Other than OJ, I can't think of any modern comparisons.

OJ is probably #1 by a wide margin, but Lance Armstrong might be right there with Phil


Armstrong is a good call. He did go from top of the sport to pretty much completely ostracized.
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Phil has professional status at the 19th and 20th holes as well based on what I have read in the public domain.
Enrico Pallazzo
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Yeah, LIV and all the other bs, YT would still have him. But the perv stuff makes him untouchable, pun intended.

Agree on Armstrong = Bonds. Everyone cheats in that sport. Even now, no friggin way is Pogacar clean. Yeah, he was an ahole too, but he wasn't cooch-grabbing cart girls or showing his dick to his teammates wives - at least as far as I know.
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Armstrong didn't just cheat at sport. He created a movement of health/wellness w/ Nike based upon his own fraud. What a piece.

I might put Lance at #1 in sports turds, just based upon all that was generated around it before it all crumbled.

Gonna miss the TexAgs LIV flex guys coming around with their nonsense. Twas a fun couple of years, watching Na live at 3am while golfing with his teammates in Thailand. Shocking it didn't work out.

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