LIV and PGA Tour Merging

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TexAg1822 said:

Wow!

Really looking forward to Chamblee's resignation effective today! No way that guy could work for someone who is in cahoots with such despicable people
yes. He's so self righteous and principled he's going to immediately insist he only covers amateur events.

What a clown. Guy acts like he's the moral authority on everything golf, takes shots at major champions left and right...and he's won the vancouver open. And hasn't done squat besides that.

And on top of all that, a perfect representative of the university of texas at austin. Smarmy, Self righteous, arrogant, double standard filled hypocrite.
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so, is this happening because PGA was going to lose the anti trust suit?
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also, I'm guessing LIV gets phased out after this year and the team format may stay, but I'm thinking it may serve as an alternative to DP or Korn Ferry for prospects or lower rated golfers as a minor leagues like setup
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AgOutsideAustin said:

Phil broke the pga tour lol

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Seems like an extreme way to fix the Ryder Cup issues
JP_Losman
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LIV had no ratings and no prospect of ratings.

Lets not pretend LIV was selling in a position of strength
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Can't say never but for folks thinking this is because of the litigation, I highly doubt it. Litigation rarely moves that fast. I doubt little of substance has even been exchanged yet.

My guess is this is just about the money.
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this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain
Tom Kazansky 2012
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JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.
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that is correct. Saudi had become an expensive parasite
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JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain
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but this probably gets them back to break-even.... maybe
MarathonAg12
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Where did all the "Saudi funds terrorists" comments go?

I don't think people realize how many ADA systems and Soldiers we have in Saudi. Hell my unit just got back from Saudi

We're BROS with them
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At the end of the day, everybody is getting richer.

I feel so bad for the players. They continue to do what they're doing and still make a crap ton of money.

Once the LIV players get back into the fold, people will forget about everything.
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Along with what everyone else is saying, genuinely the most surprised I've been in a while.
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The Michael Scott Paper Company Business Model
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Going on record demanding a Rory/Phil 1v1 match play to celebrate the merger.
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Tiger should have taken the Billion.
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Everything else aside, I'm glad all of the good players will be together again. Just spare me shotgun starts and contrived team sideshow being pushed on us.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.
Yeah this looks like LIV won. Not the other way around
JP_Losman
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It's ransom money that Greg Norman extracted out of the PGAT
(and scammed Saudis)

Greg Norman a phenomenal scam man
JCA1
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.


From the sounds of it, it's the opposite. PIF is the one bringing money to the table. But they'll now have a much better chance of that investment generating a positive return.
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JCA1 said:

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.


From the sounds of it, it's the opposite. PIF is the one bringing money to the table. But they'll now have a much better chance of that investment generating a positive return.
And the sole rights to future investment and ultimately control over worldwide golf. No big deal.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.

The Saudis got payed? Think again. The PGA Tour just got a multi-billion dollar investment promised by PIF. The Saudis just bought the PGA Tour for all intent and purposes and will let the PGAT run this newly formed entity. PIF is estimated to be worth somewhere around $620 Billion and LIV was losing money so they made this move. PGA is a $1.5 Billion business and they were promised a multi-billion dollar investment. Hell yea the PGAT would agree.
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Harry Stone said:

Under the terms of the agreement, the Board of Directors of the new entity will oversee and direct all the new entity's golf-related commercial operations, businesses and investments. The new entity will work to ensure a cohesive schedule of events that will be exciting for fans, sponsors and all stakeholders. PIF will initially be the exclusive investor in the new entity, alongside the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and the DP World Tour. Going forward, PIF will have the exclusive right to further invest in the new entity, including a right of first refusal on any capital that may be invested in the new entity, including into the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and DP World Tour. The PGA TOUR will appoint a majority of the Board and hold a majority voting interest in the combined entity.

Separately, PGA TOUR Inc. will remain in place as a 501(c)(6) tax exempt organization and retains administrative oversight of events for those assets contributed by the PGA TOUR, including the sanctioning of events, the administration of the competition and rules, as well as all other "inside the ropes" responsibilities, with Jay Monahan as Commissioner and Ed Herlihy as PGA TOUR Policy Board Chairman. PIF's Governor Yasir Al-Rumayyan will join the PGA TOUR Policy Board. The DP World Tour and LIV Golf will retain similar administrative oversight of events on their respective Tours.

The Board of Directors of the new commercial entity will include Al-Rumayyan as Chairman and Monahan as Chief Executive Officer; the new entity's Board will also include an Executive Committee comprising Al-Rumayyan, Monahan, Herlihy and PGA TOUR Policy Board member Jimmy Dunne. The full Board will be announced at a later date, and it is anticipated that all three founding members will have representation.

Wow.
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zagman said:

JCA1 said:

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

JP_Losman said:

this is a mercy killing of LIV.

They were circling the drain to PGAT bailed out so they could bring back a few star players
and wash this down the drain


Sounds like the Saudi's got paid so the new pga talent couldn't be lured away….again.


From the sounds of it, it's the opposite. PIF is the one bringing money to the table. But they'll now have a much better chance of that investment generating a positive return.
And the sole rights to future investment and ultimately control over worldwide golf. No big deal.


I was just responding to people claiming the PGA was paying LIV. That doesn't seem to be the case so I pointed that out.

Yes, as the primary financial backer of worldwide golf going forward, they will have considerable control.
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Quote:

Notably, today's announcement will be followed by a mutually agreed end to all pending litigation between the participating parties. Further, the three organizations will work cooperatively and in good faith to establish a fair and objective process for any players who desire to re-apply for membership with the PGA TOUR or the DP World Tour following the completion of the 2023 season and for determining fair criteria and terms of re-admission, consistent with each Tour's policies.

Probably the biggest takeaway for the golf fan.
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My buddy said it best…this is Succession with golf
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Yeah, LIV absolutely just won this battle. They pretty much just bought the PGA and have the right of first refusal for any additional capital contributions. Saudi owns the PGA now
Keeper of The Spirits
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Or plenty of stuff to cancel everyone
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As I've been saying, (1) the losers have been golf fans with two fractured tours and (2) two separate tours were not going to have a healthy separate existence in the US. LIV was not gonna get a foothold in the US. So here we predictably are, either merge or the newbie dies. As we've seen over and over again in American sports
AgOutsideAustin
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Pint size Brandel chime in yet????!?!


Didn't think so.
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TresPuertas
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LIV just pulled this off by having nothing more than a TV contract with the CW.

This needs to be studied and taught in all business schools and universities for a long time. This is really an incredible story
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Should of happened 500 days ago. Great for the game of golf!
 
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