AustinCountyAg said:
all it takes will be a couple top 10 players of the world to commit to the LIV league and the PGA tour will drop all this "suspended for life" BS. .....you really think if say Spieth, DJ, and JT all decide they want to play the other tour some the PGA tour will kick them out F No?! PGA tour relies on sponsorship money. Big name players go hand in hand with that. Good luck telling AT&T Spieth isn't allowed to play in their own tournament at the pro am at Pebble Beach.
This!jj9000 said:Aggie369 said:
Saudi Tour is re offering some players that ended up saying no on first offer
This will end up in court.
The PGA Tour banning (or threatening to ban) independent contractors from playing non-PGA sanctions events will be challenged.
All it's going to take is 1-2 middle of the pack players to jump ship, make a boatload of money, and the others will follow.
While discovery is often quite broad, those issues don't seem to be relevant to the question at hand, which is the Tour's authority to revoke membership for players that breach their rules. My guess is the Tour would very aggressively challenge such discovery and have a decent chance of preventing it. And even if the discovery was allowed, you then have to somehow get the IRS involved, which I don't see as likely either.Stymied said:This!jj9000 said:Aggie369 said:
Saudi Tour is re offering some players that ended up saying no on first offer
This will end up in court.
The PGA Tour banning (or threatening to ban) independent contractors from playing non-PGA sanctions events will be challenged.
All it's going to take is 1-2 middle of the pack players to jump ship, make a boatload of money, and the others will follow.
I personally think that if the Saudis push things, there is a good chance that the PGA tour caves. I don't think they are as worried about sponsors as they are worried about legal discovery if things go to the courts. The PGA Tour operates as a non-profit and as more and more stuff leaks out about how the PGA Tour "non-profit" spends its money, it will not be pretty out in the public.
I'm not a lawyer but I also wonder whether their 501c6 status is put at risk if they play hardball and try to restrict players from participating in outside events.
That may very well turn out to be true, but you're saying this like it's true right now and, as best I can tell, none of this has been conclusively decided. And you keep saying the Tour doesn't get to dictate OWR and majors. No one has said otherwise. What people have said is the Tour has a lot of influence on these organizations and will attempt to exert that influence as much as they can. Whether they will be successful in that is still yet to be seen.Aggie369 said:
As long as big time players are playing in the event there will be world golf ranking points to compete for.
PGA Tour doesn't get to tell other entities that they can't compete for world golf rankings.
Another reason why Saudi was popular is because you potentially had A LOT of the top players committed to playing no cut events with small fields with really high competition so the players could earn lots of world ranking points by playing in Saudi tournaments.
What's been communicated? That the Saudi league has been given assurances by whoever runs the OWR that their events will earn points? That's a pretty big acknowledgement that one would think would warrant a press release.Aggie369 said:
This is what has been communicated to current players from Saudi.
But yes everything can change quickly with what gets out and with how much money is on the line.
If that's the best they got, it's gonna be a hard pass for me.98Ag99Grad said:
https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/watson-westwood-poulter-na-expected-to-join-saudi-golf-league/
First group of names announced- Bubba, Westwood, Poulter, and Na.
Aggie369 said:
They can't be frozen out of majors
The only way they would be out of majors is if Saudi doesn't get enough high quality players because then they would lose world ranking points. But PGA Tour has no control over any of the 4 majors
Sergio Garcia, frustrated with what he thought was the early start of the clock to look for a lost ball, seemingly telling a rules official…
— The Fried Egg (@the_fried_egg) May 5, 2022
…I cant wait to leave this tour
…cant wait to get outta here
…just a couple more weeks until I don’t have to deal with you any more pic.twitter.com/k1qRRYbmsF
Phil ain't a martyr. He didn't voluntarily fall on the sword for the cause; his big mouth got him in trouble.t - cam said:
Phil will in fact be a martyr when all is said and done. The PGA is going to have to cave to a lot of demands the players have.
RealTalk said:Phil ain't a martyr. He didn't voluntarily fall on the sword for the cause; his big mouth got him in trouble.t - cam said:
Phil will in fact be a martyr when all is said and done. The PGA is going to have to cave to a lot of demands the players have.
RealTalk said:Phil ain't a martyr. He didn't voluntarily fall on the sword for the cause; his big mouth got him in trouble.t - cam said:
Phil will in fact be a martyr when all is said and done. The PGA is going to have to cave to a lot of demands the players have.
J. Peterman said:RealTalk said:Phil ain't a martyr. He didn't voluntarily fall on the sword for the cause; his big mouth got him in trouble.t - cam said:
Phil will in fact be a martyr when all is said and done. The PGA is going to have to cave to a lot of demands the players have.
Phil needs the money
Phil Mickelson Had Gambling Losses of $40 Million From 2010-14, According to Biographer https://t.co/uCqWy3rpmZ
— Bob Harig (@BobHarig) May 5, 2022
J. Peterman said:
Wouldn't be so surePhil Mickelson Had Gambling Losses of $40 Million From 2010-14, According to Biographer https://t.co/uCqWy3rpmZ
— Bob Harig (@BobHarig) May 5, 2022
What a kock sucker. Never a fan of that guy and won't miss him.WhoopN06 said:Sergio Garcia, frustrated with what he thought was the early start of the clock to look for a lost ball, seemingly telling a rules official…
— The Fried Egg (@the_fried_egg) May 5, 2022
…I cant wait to leave this tour
…cant wait to get outta here
…just a couple more weeks until I don’t have to deal with you any more pic.twitter.com/k1qRRYbmsF