This board is something. The guy is regarded as a top 5 to 7 coach by virtually everyone associated in one way or another w college football. I guess he's got everyone snowed.
OK so let's count this up:Macarthur said:
This board is something. The guy is regarded as a top 5 to 7 coach by virtually everyone associated in one way or another w college football. I guess he's got everyone snowed.
Well, I would not say he's better than Jimbo. I think he's in the conversation when you get past the couple of guys w a MNC.CoachLB said:
Did anyone say he is not a great coach? We were saying he is not better than Jimbo Fisher. The guy who said he was is who started this. But the fact is Patterson has had 3 six loss seasons since 2012 and Sumlin had basically the same record as Patterson in a tougher league. Those are all facts. Another fact is we can only guess what Patterson would do if his team played Alabama, Auburn, LSU and the rest of the SEC West week after week. Lets face it, a Big 12 schedule does not strike fear into anyone.
I would take Patterson for sure over Helfrich, Dantonio and probably Smart (still very new). I think he and Petersen are very comparable career wise.fistofsouth said:OK so let's count this up:Macarthur said:
This board is something. The guy is regarded as a top 5 to 7 coach by virtually everyone associated in one way or another w college football. I guess he's got everyone snowed.
NC winners- Saban, Meyer, Swinney, Fisher. That would be 1-4
Made CFB Playoffs - Dantonio, Smart, Helfrich, Petersen. That would be 5-8
I like GP, but tell me what accomplishment he has that trumps that???
Take it up with Bowlsby. Your commish did that to you.Quote:
Many think TCU got jobbed out of their spot in a playoff a couple of years ago.
Well, he didn't do it to me, but I agree w your point.aggiehawg said:Take it up with Bowlsby. Your commish did that to you.Quote:
Many think TCU got jobbed out of their spot in a playoff a couple of years ago.
Yeah, you really don't care for frog too much! Lol!Macarthur said:Well, he didn't do it to me, but I agree w your point.aggiehawg said:Take it up with Bowlsby. Your commish did that to you.Quote:
Many think TCU got jobbed out of their spot in a playoff a couple of years ago.
So who recruits for Patterson? So if someone would recruit a top class for Patterson he would win more? He is in the Big 12 now and has been since 2012. I could see it being tough to recruit in the WAC. But he is in a Power 5 conference. Maybe he needs to up his recruiting game.Macarthur said:Well, I would not say he's better than Jimbo. I think he's in the conversation when you get past the couple of guys w a MNC.CoachLB said:
Did anyone say he is not a great coach? We were saying he is not better than Jimbo Fisher. The guy who said he was is who started this. But the fact is Patterson has had 3 six loss seasons since 2012 and Sumlin had basically the same record as Patterson in a tougher league. Those are all facts. Another fact is we can only guess what Patterson would do if his team played Alabama, Auburn, LSU and the rest of the SEC West week after week. Lets face it, a Big 12 schedule does not strike fear into anyone.
And sumlin keeps getting brought up....I would love to see what Patterson could do w a couple of top 10 recruiting classes. Reminder that he's never had a recruiting class higher than 25.
i have been a Defensive Cord for a while now.I know what he does on defense. And i know why he does it. He does what he does because of the type of defense he has to run. Becsuse of recruiting and the 7 on 7 league he plays in. But when he plays teams like Arky was under Bret B. They give him fits. Clemson ran for like 13 yards a carry against OU. That is why i question a Patterson tyoe team can win a NC. Again I like the guy and believe he is an excellent coach.Macarthur said:
His recruiting has gradually gotten better, but he also has bit diff defense and recruits to his system.
CoachLB said:i have been a Defensive Cord for a while now.I know what he does on defense. And i know why he does it. He does what he does because of the type of defense he has to run. Becsuse of recruiting and the 7 on 7 league he plays in. But when he plays teams like Arky was under Bret B. They give him fits. Clemson ran for like 13 yards a carry against OU. That is why i question a Patterson tyoe team can win a NC. Again I like the guy and believe he is an excellent coach.Macarthur said:
His recruiting has gradually gotten better, but he also has bit diff defense and recruits to his system.
CoachLB said:i have been a Defensive Cord for a while now.I know what he does on defense. And i know why he does it. He does what he does because of the type of defense he has to run. Becsuse of recruiting and the 7 on 7 league he plays in. But when he plays teams like Arky was under Bret B. They give him fits. Clemson ran for like 13 yards a carry against OU. That is why i question a Patterson tyoe team can win a NC. Again I like the guy and believe he is an excellent coach.Macarthur said:
His recruiting has gradually gotten better, but he also has bit diff defense and recruits to his system.
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i'll give TCU some credit tonight for keeping it close and competitive with Ohio State
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It's crazy that they spent so much time reviewing a bogus targeting call...