No, he's literally not at f***ing all, by any metric.South Platte said:Go pick on somebody else. He's a more accomplished coach than Jimbo.BohunkAg said:
If Patterson was worth a sh-t, he would already be a coach at somewhere that could fill a damn stadium.
By the way, you have no idea how much I hate TCU.
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Come on...Ronnie Mund said:No, he's literally not at f***ing all, by any metric.South Platte said:Go pick on somebody else. He's a more accomplished coach than Jimbo.BohunkAg said:
If Patterson was worth a sh-t, he would already be a coach at somewhere that could fill a damn stadium.
By the way, you have no idea how much I hate TCU.
- Sweating
- Losing his voice
- Torso girth
aggiehawg said:And that attitude right there fits perfectly with the cowards of the Big XII. Always wanted the easiest path under the BCS regime with automatic bids.Quote:
When Del Conte approached Patterson about the series, the coach said, "So you don't want me to win a national championship?"
The same people clamoring for expansion of the play-offs with auto bids to the conference champions.
Yes! Expansion of the playoffs rewards those in crap conferences and leads to less and less quality OOC games. Do. Not. Want.
I have just read the most stupid thing i have ever read on "Old Rivalries." And that is saying a lot as there has been some really stupid stuff. Look Patterson is a great coach. But to flat out say he is more accomplished than Jimbo is just wrong. Patterson did a lot in a mid major conference and some good stuff in a weak power 5 conference. Jimbo has a NC and multiple 10 win seasons. Look when you play in a bowl you get 30 days or so to prepare. And most teams do not prepare the same for a bowl. And if they had NC hopes and did not make the playoff they more than likely have lost interest. If you had left it with Patterson is a great coach, i would agree. But you went full crazy saying he is more accomplished than Jimbo. Fisher improved A&M faster than i have ever seen. The same players with the previous staff would have gotten blown out by Clemson. Mond looks like a different player. His mechanics are so much improved. A formerly soft Aggie team went toe to toe with a physical Clemson team and did not back off. And all of this improvement has come after one spring practice and in just 2 games. Talk as good about Patterson all you want. But please do not throw crap like that out there about Jimbo Fisher!South Platte said:Go pick on somebody else. He's a more accomplished coach than Jimbo.BohunkAg said:
If Patterson was worth a sh-t, he would already be a coach at somewhere that could fill a damn stadium.
By the way, you have no idea how much I hate TCU.
goodAg80 said:Come on...Ronnie Mund said:No, he's literally not at f***ing all, by any metric.South Platte said:Go pick on somebody else. He's a more accomplished coach than Jimbo.BohunkAg said:
If Patterson was worth a sh-t, he would already be a coach at somewhere that could fill a damn stadium.
By the way, you have no idea how much I hate TCU.
- Sweating
- Losing his voice
- Torso girth
He's also well above average at recruiting attractive chicks to carry his sweat towel
By the way. TCU lost to an Arkansas team led by Bret Bielema. Sumlin never even did that! 
True.GAC06 said:goodAg80 said:Come on...Ronnie Mund said:No, he's literally not at f***ing all, by any metric.South Platte said:Go pick on somebody else. He's a more accomplished coach than Jimbo.BohunkAg said:
If Patterson was worth a sh-t, he would already be a coach at somewhere that could fill a damn stadium.
By the way, you have no idea how much I hate TCU.
- Sweating
- Losing his voice
- Torso girth
He's also well above average at recruiting attractive chicks to carry his sweat towel
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Or anyone with any sense
I didn't realize they moved the game to AT&T. What a pitiful money grab at the expense of their fans. Minor League BS.
Not even a home and home. Like they're SMU. Just giving up and cashing the check.
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Saturday should be for TCU what last Saturday was for Texas A&M and Kyle Field when the Aggies hosted No. 2 Clemson.
That entire day was the best of college football.
Instead, this Saturday is partially about TCU. And it's about AT&T Stadium. And it's about Ohio State. And it's about the Dallas Cowboys.
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The biggest dividing line between the appeal of college football from pro football is the atmosphere, and as we all saw in Clemson's win vs. the Aggies at Kyle Field, nothing tops the scene or feel of a game on campus.
Not even a home and home. Like they're SMU. Just giving up and cashing the check.
That's real shame that's not going to be in Amon carter
Having been to games in Amon Carter as recently as last year, it's not like they are sacrificing any kind of atmosphere by playing elsewhere.
TCU home games are almost identical to Baylor's.
TCU home games are almost identical to Baylor's.
I agree with that. Big games like this should be on campus. I still hate that we play Arkansas in that barn....and by barn, I may cavernous dome. It's obviously a nice stadium, but it's surrounded by giant parking lots instead of by a college campus.;Macarthur said:
That's real shame that's not going to be in Amon carter
Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Exactly, CDC is all hot and heavy about getting himself a home-and-home with an elite program and it's not even at home for them. Now they just get to play in a house full of OSU fans twice!PJYoung said:
I didn't realize they moved the game to AT&T. What a pitiful money grab at the expense of their fans. Minor League BS.Quote:
Saturday should be for TCU what last Saturday was for Texas A&M and Kyle Field when the Aggies hosted No. 2 Clemson.
That entire day was the best of college football.
Instead, this Saturday is partially about TCU. And it's about AT&T Stadium. And it's about Ohio State. And it's about the Dallas Cowboys.Quote:
The biggest dividing line between the appeal of college football from pro football is the atmosphere, and as we all saw in Clemson's win vs. the Aggies at Kyle Field, nothing tops the scene or feel of a game on campus.
And they get to travel to Columbus Ohio next season. Not even a home and home. Like they're SMU. Just giving up and cashing the check.
I disagree. There are some games that aren't great due to oppoent, but this would have been a diff animal. It would have been great.AggieBand2004 said:
Having been to games in Amon Carter as recently as last year, it's not like they are sacrificing any kind of atmosphere by playing elsewhere.
TCU home games are almost identical to Baylor's.
I wish this were true regarding the playoffs, but I'm not sure it is most important. I think who you beat goes farther down the tie-breaker line as opposed to # of losses. Right now, for the B12 teams, there is no incentive to play a tough OOC game because the B12 is (rightfully) perceived as weakest, and it's going to lose the conference affiliation tie breaker. A Big 12's best chance to make the playoffs is to be undefeated.aggiehawg said:I don't have any vitriol towards Patterson. He's been good for TCU and more power to him. He has made the most out of the opportunity to join the ranks of P5 programs. What many fail to grasp here is the huge difference between the old BCS system to the play-off selection committee. Under the BCS, no one was penalized for having a soft schedule. They just had to win. Now, it is quality wins versus quality losses that shape the perception and the rankings.Quote:
I find it weird that Patterson does something that many people love which is to stay loyal and build something and take it to new heights that it's never been. He's been a great member of the community and has not chased the next shiny object...Yet, there is vitriol here for him.
I don't get it. I've been told by folks that would prob know that he would have taken the Aggie job back when Sherman was hired, BTW.
I call it "The Aids Approach" to rankings. It's not just who you beat/lost to, it's also who they beat/lost to.
FTR, I have my doubts that hiring back-to-back TCU HCs (Fran/Patterson) was all that appealing to BMAs however.
The playoff committee has been consistent on this one thing...the first tie breaker for determining the 4 playoff teams is the # of losses*. Winning a CCG or title and conference affiliation/brand name are the next most important factors (SEC>Big Ten> ACC > PAC/B12) with the playoff committee preferring 1 team per conference.
OU will lose conference affiliation, but in some cases will win brand name (over a team like Washington, Wisconsin or Michigan State). TCU is also low on the pecking order.
I hate that it still comes down to # of losses to get into the playoffs.
*I know it doesn't need to be stated for 90% of the people on this board, but # of losses only applies to P5 teams and Notre Dame.
Go compare their Wikipedia pages. Or don't. But regardless of opinion, posting that on an A&M message board was only going to end badly.CoachLB said:Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Or compare their off-season job interviews.
Gary Patterson has a 162-57 all time head coaching record. However, TCU joined the Big 12 in 2012.South Platte said:Go compare their Wikipedia pages. Or don't. But regardless of opinion, posting that on an A&M message board was only going to end badly.CoachLB said:Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Dating back to 2012, TCU has had the following records:
7-6 (4-5 conference)
4-8 (2-7)
12-1 (8-1)
11-2 (7-2)
6-7 (4-5)
11-3 (7-2)
2-0 (0-0)
for a total of 53-27 (.663 winning percentage)
Gary Patterson had one Big 12 conference championship in that time.
Jimbo, in the same time, has had the following records:
12-2 (7-1)
14-0 (8-0)
13-1 (8-0)
10-3 (6-2)
10-3 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
for a total of 66-15 (.815)
Jimbo had 3 conference championships and one national championship in that time.
So, as Power 5 coaches, Jimbo is much better. Jimbo was also part of a national championship team as an assistant (LSU 2003). Gary Patterson has been apart of 0 national championship teams.
If you want to include Gary Patterson's tenure as a group of 5 coach in this equation, which I suppose you're trying to do, then I don't know what to tell you. Practically every head coach that is hired as a Power 5 coach from their group of 5 program is a "bad ass" (Kevin Sumlin, Art Briles and Tom Herman from Houston or Dennis Franchionne at TCU, etc) until they make it to the Power 5. Patterson has held his own, but, he is nowhere near Jimbo as a head football coach in Power 5 play.
technoviking just placed his Wranglers around his ankles, waddled over to South Platte, ripped off South Platte's dome off his pencil neck, farted, and took a banana shaped sh*t down South Platte's blood spewing windpipe.
No. He didn't.
But he won.
But he won.
Your are using the term power 5 conference for Patterson's tenure rather loosely.
I realized that. Especially when considering that TCU was co-champs of the big 12 with Baylor that one "championship" year.
I guess I tried to help South Platte a little too much there.
I guess I tried to help South Platte a little too much there.
The acc was worse than the big 12 by a country mile during that time frame. (It's worse now than the big 12 has ever been)
Your Friend said:
The acc was worse than the big 12 by a country mile during that time frame. (It's worse now than the big 12 has ever been)
Nobody gives a **** what you think you noodle armed freak !
Your Friend said:
The acc was worse than the big 12 by a country mile during that time frame. (It's worse now than the big 12 has ever been)
People with legitimate degrees are talking in here. Take your bullsh-t trolling to one of the many Texas threads.
Alright. Let's review:Your Friend said:
The acc was worse than the big 12 by a country mile during that time frame. (It's worse now than the big 12 has ever been)
2012 bowl season highlights:
BCS bowls:
FSU 31 - Northern Illinois 10
Oregon 35 - Kansas State (co-big 12 champs) 17
Louisville 33 - Florida 23
Non-BCS bowls:
TAMU 42 - OU (co-big 12 champs) 13
Michigan State 17 - TCU 16
2013:
BCS bowls:
FSU 34 (National Champs) - Auburn 31
UCF 52 - Baylor (big 12 champions) 42
Oklahoma 45 - Alabama 31
Clemson 40 - Ohio State 35
Non BCS bowls:
Oregon 30 - tu 7
TAMU 52 - Duke 48
TCU doesn't make the bowl season
2014:
Playoffs:
No big 12 participants. FSU makes it.
Non Playoff games:
TCU 42 (big 12 co champs) - Ole Piss 3
Michigan State 42 - Baylor (big 12 co champs) 41
Arkansas 31 - tu 7
TAMU 45 - WVU 37
2015:
Playoffs:
Clemson 37 - OU (big 12 champs) 17
Bama (National Champions) 45 - Clemson 40
tu doesn't make a bowl
2016:
Playoffs:
No Big 12 participants again. Clemson wins the national championship
tu doesn't make a bowl
2017:
Playoffs:
OU loses in the first round. Clemson loses in first round.
Point being in all this: the "best" of the big 12 routinely lost. ACC had two different teams win the national championship.
techno just went to Freebirds, where he ordered a Super Monster with extra pico, guac, corn, sour cream, double steak and refried beans. Right after finishing his meal, he hopped in his F-250 and drove to Katy, knocked on Buscemi's apartment door, dragged him outside, violently ripped off both of Buscemi's noodle arms, and clubbed him senseless with them. Then he pulled down his fightin Texas Aggie track pants, took a piss on Buscemi's concave chest and took a steamy, corn & guac filled elephant sized poop in Buscemi's mouth and left him for dead. Holy sh-t
The ACC has about twice as many draft picks annually (vs the Big 12).
Tough crowd in here tonight.
Watching Patterson on the sidelines bent over yelling and yanking his pants up makes me think of Chris Farley doing his (... in a van down by the river...) motivational speech on SNL. Makes me laugh every time I see Patterson.
Did you consider how many AFCA National Coach of the Year awards both have won? Patterson has 2 and is one of only five coaches in the last 60 years with multiple COY awards, which is given by his peers. There are a number of one hit wonders on that list. To get it twice is a really big deal. Bear, Paterno, Royal, Patterson and McKay. That's good company. Jimbo currently has 0.technoviking said:Gary Patterson has a 162-57 all time head coaching record. However, TCU joined the Big 12 in 2012.South Platte said:Go compare their Wikipedia pages. Or don't. But regardless of opinion, posting that on an A&M message board was only going to end badly.CoachLB said:Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Dating back to 2012, TCU has had the following records:
7-6 (4-5 conference)
4-8 (2-7)
12-1 (8-1)
11-2 (7-2)
6-7 (4-5)
11-3 (7-2)
2-0 (0-0)
for a total of 53-27 (.663 winning percentage)
Gary Patterson had one Big 12 conference championship in that time.
Jimbo, in the same time, has had the following records:
12-2 (7-1)
14-0 (8-0)
13-1 (8-0)
10-3 (6-2)
10-3 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
for a total of 66-15 (.815)
Jimbo had 3 conference championships and one national championship in that time.
So, as Power 5 coaches, Jimbo is much better. Jimbo was also part of a national championship team as an assistant (LSU 2003). Gary Patterson has been apart of 0 national championship teams.
If you want to include Gary Patterson's tenure as a group of 5 coach in this equation, which I suppose you're trying to do, then I don't know what to tell you. Practically every head coach that is hired as a Power 5 coach from their group of 5 program is a "bad ass" (Kevin Sumlin, Art Briles and Tom Herman from Houston or Dennis Franchionne at TCU, etc) until they make it to the Power 5. Patterson has held his own, but, he is nowhere near Jimbo as a head football coach in Power 5 play.
Yes, of course I count GP's time pre-Big XII. He has won 11 games in 9 of 18 years. Before you bash GP's time as a group of 5 head coach, remember that Jimbo accepted the HC position at UAB before it was vetoed. Fortune smiled on him and he has had an excellent run as OC and HC at FSU.
These posts will obviously age . . . we will revisit in 5 years!
I don't know what to tell you, then. Have a good one.South Platte said:Did you consider how many AFCA National Coach of the Year awards both have won? Patterson has 2 and is one of only five coaches in the last 60 years with multiple COY awards, which is given by his peers. There are a number of one hit wonders on that list. To get it twice is a really big deal. Bear, Paterno, Royal, Patterson and McKay. That's good company. Jimbo currently has 0.technoviking said:Gary Patterson has a 162-57 all time head coaching record. However, TCU joined the Big 12 in 2012.South Platte said:Go compare their Wikipedia pages. Or don't. But regardless of opinion, posting that on an A&M message board was only going to end badly.CoachLB said:Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Dating back to 2012, TCU has had the following records:
7-6 (4-5 conference)
4-8 (2-7)
12-1 (8-1)
11-2 (7-2)
6-7 (4-5)
11-3 (7-2)
2-0 (0-0)
for a total of 53-27 (.663 winning percentage)
Gary Patterson had one Big 12 conference championship in that time.
Jimbo, in the same time, has had the following records:
12-2 (7-1)
14-0 (8-0)
13-1 (8-0)
10-3 (6-2)
10-3 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
for a total of 66-15 (.815)
Jimbo had 3 conference championships and one national championship in that time.
So, as Power 5 coaches, Jimbo is much better. Jimbo was also part of a national championship team as an assistant (LSU 2003). Gary Patterson has been apart of 0 national championship teams.
If you want to include Gary Patterson's tenure as a group of 5 coach in this equation, which I suppose you're trying to do, then I don't know what to tell you. Practically every head coach that is hired as a Power 5 coach from their group of 5 program is a "bad ass" (Kevin Sumlin, Art Briles and Tom Herman from Houston or Dennis Franchionne at TCU, etc) until they make it to the Power 5. Patterson has held his own, but, he is nowhere near Jimbo as a head football coach in Power 5 play.
Yes, of course I count GP's time pre-Big XII. He has won 11 games in 9 of 18 years. Before you bash GP's time as a group of 5 head coach, remember that Jimbo accepted the HC position at UAB before it was vetoed. Fortune smiled on him and he has had an excellent run as OC and HC at FSU.
These posts will obviously age . . . we will revisit in 5 years!
South Platte said:Did you consider how many AFCA National Coach of the Year awards both have won? Patterson has 2 and is one of only five coaches in the last 60 years with multiple COY awards, which is given by his peers. There are a number of one hit wonders on that list. To get it twice is a really big deal. Bear, Paterno, Royal, Patterson and McKay. That's good company. Jimbo currently has 0.technoviking said:Gary Patterson has a 162-57 all time head coaching record. However, TCU joined the Big 12 in 2012.South Platte said:Go compare their Wikipedia pages. Or don't. But regardless of opinion, posting that on an A&M message board was only going to end badly.CoachLB said:Or to be more honest maybe you should have known better than to say something to us that was not true.South Platte said:
Alright, alright. I should have known better than to pick on Jimbo's career with you guys.
Dating back to 2012, TCU has had the following records:
7-6 (4-5 conference)
4-8 (2-7)
12-1 (8-1)
11-2 (7-2)
6-7 (4-5)
11-3 (7-2)
2-0 (0-0)
for a total of 53-27 (.663 winning percentage)
Gary Patterson had one Big 12 conference championship in that time.
Jimbo, in the same time, has had the following records:
12-2 (7-1)
14-0 (8-0)
13-1 (8-0)
10-3 (6-2)
10-3 (5-3)
7-6 (3-5)
for a total of 66-15 (.815)
Jimbo had 3 conference championships and one national championship in that time.
So, as Power 5 coaches, Jimbo is much better. Jimbo was also part of a national championship team as an assistant (LSU 2003). Gary Patterson has been apart of 0 national championship teams.
If you want to include Gary Patterson's tenure as a group of 5 coach in this equation, which I suppose you're trying to do, then I don't know what to tell you. Practically every head coach that is hired as a Power 5 coach from their group of 5 program is a "bad ass" (Kevin Sumlin, Art Briles and Tom Herman from Houston or Dennis Franchionne at TCU, etc) until they make it to the Power 5. Patterson has held his own, but, he is nowhere near Jimbo as a head football coach in Power 5 play.
Yes, of course I count GP's time pre-Big XII. He has won 11 games in 9 of 18 years. Before you bash GP's time as a group of 5 head coach, remember that Jimbo accepted the HC position at UAB before it was vetoed. Fortune smiled on him and he has had an excellent run as OC and HC at FSU.
These posts will obviously age . . . we will revisit in 5 years!
For you to argue some subjective award over a National Championship, Conference Championships, 10+ win seasons, etc, just shows the absolute stupidity of your attempted logic.
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