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FJ43
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I'm kicking myself for missing the VIX put trade by one damn cent. Those are 5X in 2 days.

Also kicking myself for not holding the calls into it.

I give up.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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FJ43
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Just read this.

Hmmmm…….

Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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FJ43 said:

I'm kicking myself for missing the VIX put trade by one damn cent. Those are 5X in 2 days.

Also kicking myself for not holding the calls into it.

I give up.
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FJ43 said:

Just read this.

Hmmmm…….




There isn't a catalyst left for a crash I don't think. The fed backstopping liquidity problems at banks allows them to ride out the upside down securities.

The fed can print money to pay dept and just like pre Covid as long as it doesn't actually make it into the system and sits on banks balance sheets we good.

The bail out allows the fed to essentially QT and QE at the same time.
FJ43
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He's been a bit dramatic recently. I guess he's always got a 50/50 shot at being right.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

API Numbers

Crude = +1.1M
Gas = -4.6M
Distill = -2.9M
Cushing = -1.0M

Draw of 7.4M

EIA tomorrow

Don't fall for the crude manipulation.

IMO, we are headed for the same run in energy that we had last year going into this time. However, this time, JB doesn't have the SPR backstop to flood the market with lower prices at the pump.

GLTA
I am as bullish energy as you are, but the flow into energy this week has been as bearish as I have ever seen. Thery are straight playing risk reversals, selling calls to buy puts. XLE to 70, XOM under 100, DVN into 20's. No clue if they are just hedges or not, but worth paying attention to.
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SF2004 said:

FJ43 said:

Just read this.

Hmmmm…….




There isn't a catalyst left for a crash I don't think. The fed backstopping liquidity problems at banks allows them to ride out the upside down securities.

The fed can print money to pay dept and just like pre Covid as long as it doesn't actually make it into the system and sits on banks balance sheets we good.

The bail out allows the fed to essentially QT and QE at the same time.
FED has earmarked $25 Billion but the unrealized losses in bank investments is $700 Billion.

So it's delayed
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SF2004 said:

FJ43 said:

Just read this.

Hmmmm…….




There isn't a catalyst left for a crash I don't think. The fed backstopping liquidity problems at banks allows them to ride out the upside down securities.

The fed can print money to pay dept and just like pre Covid as long as it doesn't actually make it into the system and sits on banks balance sheets we good.

The bail out allows the fed to essentially QT and QE at the same time.

IMO, the catalyst is going to be commercial real estate.

There are millions of sf of spec industrial that are under construction and occupancy is dwindling. Combine that with permanent financing being difficult to underwrite at current interest rates and cap rates, we have a potential time bomb waiting to explode.

If a bank has suburban office space, they're going to have pain as well. Not much construction risk, but occupancy and lease rates aren't trending in a good direction.

Both of those spaces are in delicate position right now- if we start seeing layoffs and further economic weakness it could be ugly.

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FJ43 said:

Jet Black said:

FJ43 said:

Evening Gents!

Well….could have bought a boat if I held onto those VIX calls just a tad bit longer. All I get is a new Stetson hat and a nice steak dinner. My bad. But at least Mrs FJ can eat a steak this weekend.

Exited SPY puts with the opening push down. Solid trade.

Missed the VIX puts by a cent with a 'drive-buy' but thats what I get for drive trading.

Tried to take SPY long for the bounce and missed that too. Again drive-buy' trade.

Bought DNN at 1.04 today.

Sat on hands rest of the day. Most likely I will lotto trade Friday and Try to make some spending money.

Hope y'all killed it today.


What are your thoughts on DNN?


FTAG2000 nailed it. It's a easily trade-able stock in a Darvas Box. It's at the bottom of it so the RR is solid as long as you can manage the trade and have the discipline to cut.

Considering RR is about 1-2 minimum to 1-5.

Similar to CIDM for these little guys. Over the years I've made a crap ton on these just trading the Darvas. I used to go net free on a % at a time but I switched to taking gains on these.

Here's the rough box off of a phone and fat finger chart. Ballpark SRs shown.





Bam been waiting on DNN. Planning to enter.
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Bonfire1996 said:

SF2004 said:

FJ43 said:

Just read this.

Hmmmm…….




There isn't a catalyst left for a crash I don't think. The fed backstopping liquidity problems at banks allows them to ride out the upside down securities.

The fed can print money to pay dept and just like pre Covid as long as it doesn't actually make it into the system and sits on banks balance sheets we good.

The bail out allows the fed to essentially QT and QE at the same time.
FED has earmarked $25 Billion SO FAR but the unrealized losses in bank investments is $700 Billion.

So it's delayed


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Legit question, at what point does this not matter? Our debt as a country continues to rise with no end in site. Banks folding and the debt you mention is obviously astronomical. But does it eventually get to the point where it just doesn't matter? Continue t Borrow and print money we don't have is what it seems like the answer always is
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Philip J Fry said:

What's your take on the natgas side? I was waiting for it to dip back towards 2 dollars and ride it back to 3-4.
I don't watch/play/trade NatGas. I'll somewhat which the S&D like a hawk to get an idea as to how I think it will impact XOM's earnings. Trading it or putting money there - I won't touch it. I learned to much about that NatGas market long ago and watched a real good trader go effin' rogue in our company.(****e like that happens when your 2014 residential property tax bill was $39K/yr and you gotta produce just to cover that specific nut) The truth I could post you wouldn't believe and I don't need the ridicule from the masses. And, I d@mn sure don't want to get sued by this mofo because be got quit but they gave him a package to walk and keep his mouth shut. Friends do talk.. It's truly unbelievable. You do what you want, but be real frickin' careful. All I got..
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lobwedgephil said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

API Numbers

Crude = +1.1M
Gas = -4.6M
Distill = -2.9M
Cushing = -1.0M

Draw of 7.4M

EIA tomorrow

Don't fall for the crude manipulation.

IMO, we are headed for the same run in energy that we had last year going into this time. However, this time, JB doesn't have the SPR backstop to flood the market with lower prices at the pump.

GLTA
I am as bullish energy as you are, but the flow into energy this week has been as bearish as I have ever seen. Thery are straight playing risk reversals, selling calls to buy puts. XLE to 70, XOM under 100, DVN into 20's. No clue if they are just hedges or not, but worth paying attention to.
-Similar Option moves took place 60 days ago as to what you are seeing today.
-When the banks cratered this week, crude Futures went down and was declared as the reason for falling oil price. Banks recovered BUT oil continued down. It's BS. There is manufactured volatility. OPEC+/Saudi released some pretty pointed statements and it has to do with supply. DC should take heed but they are not.
-World demand is growing.
-Saudi been telling us there is no extra production waiting
-Saudi took the U.S. Oil CEO's to dinner last week in NY...public comment was "...there's no extra capacity to produce..".
-Right now, crude builds should be taking place as refineries take down time
-Right now, butane blending is cutting off and gasoline supply drops 2% in the process
-Right now, gasoline tanks are being flushed of winter blend fuel getting ready for summer blend fuel
-Driving season will soon be upon us.
-I can't explain WTI & Brent price action for last 3 months, but when Saudi, Russia, OPEC+ India and China decide they had enough of this U.S. Administration jacking things in the petro market because of some blind agenda to go green energy and climate change - they can cut production or they can embargo the U.S. like in the 70's. (Some will say the embargo means nothing because we produce more oil than in the 70's. Fine. I'll place my bet that we will be in the same shape as in the 70's.) Or, since U.S. is hell bent on Green Energy and Climate Change....why would Saudi/Opec/China/India/Turkey want to trade in the Petro-Dollar? It makes no sense to them. If the Petro-Dollar is abandoned, that's another issue all by itself.
-U.S. Oil CEO's are telling everyone - it (crude) ain't there. This Administration and Media ignore it.
-Second round (February solicitation) of SPR Refill Requests...Administration rejected....none under $70 per barrel.
-I'm holding all my Long energy positions, it's just a matter of weeks until driving season. My constitution is strong should the market want to try and kill fossil fuels in these next weeks. It will roar back. A case of recession without a decline in energy demand.

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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

lobwedgephil said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

API Numbers

Crude = +1.1M
Gas = -4.6M
Distill = -2.9M
Cushing = -1.0M

Draw of 7.4M

EIA tomorrow

Don't fall for the crude manipulation.

IMO, we are headed for the same run in energy that we had last year going into this time. However, this time, JB doesn't have the SPR backstop to flood the market with lower prices at the pump.

GLTA
I am as bullish energy as you are, but the flow into energy this week has been as bearish as I have ever seen. Thery are straight playing risk reversals, selling calls to buy puts. XLE to 70, XOM under 100, DVN into 20's. No clue if they are just hedges or not, but worth paying attention to.
-Similar Option moves took place 60 days ago as to what you are seeing today.
-When the banks cratered this week, crude Futures went down and was declared as the reason for falling oil price. Banks recovered BUT oil continued down. It's BS. There is manufactured volatility. OPEC+/Saudi released some pretty pointed statements and it has to do with supply. DC should take heed but they are not.
-World demand is growing.
-Saudi been telling us there is no extra production waiting
-Saudi took the U.S. Oil CEO's to dinner last week in NY...public comment was "...there's no extra capacity to produce..".
-Right now, crude builds should be taking place as refineries take down time
-Right now, butane blending is cutting off and gasoline supply drops 2% in the process
-Right now, gasoline tanks are being flushed of winter blend fuel getting ready for summer blend fuel
-Driving season will soon be upon us.
-I can't explain WTI & Brent price action for last 3 months, but when Saudi, Russia, OPEC+ India and China decide they had enough of this U.S. Administration jacking things in the petro market because of some blind agenda to go green energy and climate change - they can cut production or they can embargo the U.S. like in the 70's. (Some will say the embargo means nothing because we produce more oil than in the 70's. Fine. I'll place my bet that we will be in the same shape as in the 70's.) Or, since U.S. is hell bent on Green Energy and Climate Change....why would Saudi/Opec/China/India/Turkey want to trade in the Petro-Dollar? It makes no sense to them. If the Petro-Dollar is abandoned, that's another issue all by itself.
-U.S. Oil CEO's are telling everyone - it (crude) ain't there. This Administration and Media ignore it.
-Second round (February solicitation) of SPR Refill Requests...Administration rejected....none under $70 per barrel.
-I'm holding all my Long energy positions, it's just a matter of weeks until driving season. My constitution is strong should the market want to try and kill fossil fuels in these next weeks. It will roar back. A case of recession without a decline in energy demand.


Yes, and that was why I brought it up and why alarming. It is broad based, hitting almost every name, and quickly, through end of April-June. Extremely unusual in the energy sectors historical seasonality strength.
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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Philip J Fry said:

What's your take on the natgas side? I was waiting for it to dip back towards 2 dollars and ride it back to 3-4.
I don't watch/play/trade NatGas. I'll somewhat which the S&D like a hawk to get an idea as to how I think it will impact XOM's earnings. Trading it or putting money there - I won't touch it. I learned to much about that NatGas market long ago and watched a real good trader go effin' rogue in our company.(****e like that happens when your 2014 residential property tax bill was $39K/yr and you gotta produce just to cover that specific nut) The truth I could post you wouldn't believe and I don't need the ridicule from the masses. And, I d@mn sure don't want to get sued by this mofo because be got quit but they gave him a package to walk and keep his mouth shut. Friends do talk.. It's truly unbelievable. You do what you want, but be real frickin' careful. All I got..


This makes me wanna hear this story so bad yet I never will!
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Crack spreads tell the story that refiners are going to make bank in 2023. With the Options activity going on, it's weird, as in opposite. Since the Fed does not have energy as a tool to help control inflation because the Administration would rather kill off fossil fuels, maybe the Plunge Protection Team has decided to interact in crude Futures since Joe can't use the SPR as a backstop(?).
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oldarmy1 said:


Markets are sideways into the Fed. Count on it, unless another major blow up occurs. And even that might only take us to the bottom of the box, since Mommy Fed is bailing everyone out. Zero consequence financials. Must be nice!




TRADE. THE. BOX. Sell/Short/Puts into moves towards upper range. BUY/Cover/Calls into lower range.

KRE down $1.44.
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Credit Suisse hit an all time low overnight. Again. Saudi bank says no more funds from them.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/credit-suisse-shares-tumble-to-new-record-low-94e15e2
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That's the nail in the coffin
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Red Pear Luke (BCS) said:

That's the nail in the coffin



This guy is the Tony Fauci of the financial markets.
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Howdy: Bank decision maker here. Let's keep this lesson here for you, family and friends.

Is your bank at risk in the current bond portfolio mess? Do they have unrealized losses that could cause financial contagion? Good news: the info is public record.

1. Go to the FFIEC website: https://cdr.ffiec.gov/public/ManageFacsimiles.aspx

2. Select Call Report in the drop down menu box

3. Search by institution name to find your bank.

4. Download report and scroll to Schedule "RI-A" which is the breakdown of bank equity/capital. Usually around page 10. Line 10 of the schedule is titled "Other Comprehensive Income" and this is where unrealized losses in the bond portfolios are listed.

Divide the unrealized losses by total capital, and there you see if you have a problem. SVB was approaching 100%

Texas banks are affected. Some much worse than others. Some really big and some really small.

For example and to appropriately scare you:
Frost: $4.75 Billion in total capital, $1.65 Billion in unrealized losses, or 35% of their equity.
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SF2004 said:

FJ43 said:

Just read this.

Hmmmm…….




There isn't a catalyst left for a crash I don't think. The fed backstopping liquidity problems at banks allows them to ride out the upside down securities.

The fed can print money to pay dept and just like pre Covid as long as it doesn't actually make it into the system and sits on banks balance sheets we good.

The bail out allows the fed to essentially QT and QE at the same time.
Credit Suisse shares tank after Saudi backer rules out further assistance
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Bonfire1996 said:

Howdy: Bank decision maker here. Let's keep this lesson here for you, family and friends.

Is your bank at risk in the current bond portfolio mess? Do they have unrealized losses that could cause financial contagion? Good news: the info is public record.

1. Go to the FFIEC website: https://cdr.ffiec.gov/public/ManageFacsimiles.aspx

2. Select Call Report in the drop down menu box

3. Search by institution name to find your bank.

4. Download report and scroll to Schedule "RI-A" which is the breakdown of bank equity/capital. Usually around page 10. Line 10 of the schedule is titled "Other Comprehensive Income" and this is where unrealized losses in the bond portfolios are listed.

Divide the unrealized losses by total capital, and there you see if you have a problem. SVB was approaching 100%

Texas banks are affected. Some much worse than others. Some really big and some really small.

For example and to appropriately scare you:
Frost: $4.75 Billion in total capital, $1.65 Billion in unrealized losses, or 35% of their equity.
Thank you for putting this together.
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AgShaun00 said:

I think I know the answer to this, but I bought SBNY puts Friday and it is permanent halt. I am screwed right?

No answer to this? 0 or lambo? Seems if stock is now 0 someone owes you the strike price of your puts?
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Important follow ups:

1. How do these unrealized losses disappear? Simple, FED drops rates and the losses disappear into thin air

2. Why is this important when these banks can just hold onto the investments until rates go back down or hold to maturity? This is the most important point: all banks have mechanisms to prevent or hedge risk from bank runs. We can all tap into Federal lending programs like the FHLB (Federal Home Loan Bank) to borrow emergency funds to cover deposits. However, and it's the mother of all howevers, you can't tap into those sources with unrealized losses in your bond portfolios. So you'd have to unwind those positions, take the hit to capital, and then tap into those sources. During that exercise, if unwinding puts your capital underwater, you are screwed and the bank likely fails. That's a tough one.

Find a bank with as close to 0% of their equity at risk as you can. Smart dudes run those banks.
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So Comerica with 3.5B loss over 4.8B ending capital. Holy F.
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Bonfire1996 said:

Important follow ups:

1. How do these unrealized losses disappear? Simple, FED drops rates and the losses disappear into thin air

2. Why is this important when these banks can just hold onto the investments until rates go back down or hold to maturity? This is the most important point: all banks have mechanisms to prevent or hedge risk from bank runs. We can all tap into Federal lending programs like the FHLB (Federal Home Loan Bank) to borrow emergency funds to cover deposits. However, and it's the mother of all howevers, you can't tap into those sources with unrealized losses in your bond portfolios. So you'd have to unwind those positions, take the hit to capital, and then tap into those sources. During that exercise, if unwinding puts your capital underwater, you are screwed and the bank likely fails. That's a tough one.

Find a bank with as close to 0% of their equity at risk as you can. Smart dudes run those banks.

If a Bank was close to 0%, I'd assume that they have a high loan to deposit ratio vs a large bond portfolio. Today they may be considered safe, but depending on their credit quality they could be in trouble if the market weakens.

Am I thinking about that correctly?

IMO, 80-85% LTD with no loan concentrations and a diversified bond portfolio would be "fortress balance sheet ".
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It's not going to matter this morning but the fed rate hikes are behind us.

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Charismatic Megafauna said:

AgShaun00 said:

I think I know the answer to this, but I bought SBNY puts Friday and it is permanent halt. I am screwed right?

No answer to this? 0 or lambo? Seems if stock is now 0 someone owes you the strike price of your puts?
https://www.tastylive.com/news-insights/bank-stocks-collapsing-what-will-happen-bank-stock-options

Glanced at this article the other day
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cgh1999 said:

Bonfire1996 said:

Important follow ups:

1. How do these unrealized losses disappear? Simple, FED drops rates and the losses disappear into thin air

2. Why is this important when these banks can just hold onto the investments until rates go back down or hold to maturity? This is the most important point: all banks have mechanisms to prevent or hedge risk from bank runs. We can all tap into Federal lending programs like the FHLB (Federal Home Loan Bank) to borrow emergency funds to cover deposits. However, and it's the mother of all howevers, you can't tap into those sources with unrealized losses in your bond portfolios. So you'd have to unwind those positions, take the hit to capital, and then tap into those sources. During that exercise, if unwinding puts your capital underwater, you are screwed and the bank likely fails. That's a tough one.

Find a bank with as close to 0% of their equity at risk as you can. Smart dudes run those banks.

If a Bank was close to 0%, I'd assume that they have a high loan to deposit ratio vs a large bond portfolio. Today they may be considered safe, but depending on their credit quality they could be in trouble if the market weakens.

Am I thinking about that correctly?

IMO, 80-85% LTD with no loan concentrations and a diversified bond portfolio would be "fortress balance sheet ".
or it means they just didn't want to pull the trigger on low yield, long maturity investments.

We have $0 at risk and for years had a 65-70% loan to deposit ratio.

All that to say, just depends on the banks board preferences
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0708aggie said:

So Comerica with 3.5B loss over 4.8B ending capital. Holy F.
now you know why their stock was one of the most volatile on Monday.
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I really appreciate this, had another question, if you don't mind.

Wanted to check out WF, but it looks like they have several different versions of this report depending on the region? I don't see any unrealized losses under the South Central ID, for example, but do see 11 billion in losses over 171 billion capital for the one just labeled national association.

Why would a bank have multiple reports set up like this?
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Bonfire1996 said:

cgh1999 said:

Bonfire1996 said:

Important follow ups:

1. How do these unrealized losses disappear? Simple, FED drops rates and the losses disappear into thin air

2. Why is this important when these banks can just hold onto the investments until rates go back down or hold to maturity? This is the most important point: all banks have mechanisms to prevent or hedge risk from bank runs. We can all tap into Federal lending programs like the FHLB (Federal Home Loan Bank) to borrow emergency funds to cover deposits. However, and it's the mother of all howevers, you can't tap into those sources with unrealized losses in your bond portfolios. So you'd have to unwind those positions, take the hit to capital, and then tap into those sources. During that exercise, if unwinding puts your capital underwater, you are screwed and the bank likely fails. That's a tough one.

Find a bank with as close to 0% of their equity at risk as you can. Smart dudes run those banks.

If a Bank was close to 0%, I'd assume that they have a high loan to deposit ratio vs a large bond portfolio. Today they may be considered safe, but depending on their credit quality they could be in trouble if the market weakens.

Am I thinking about that correctly?

IMO, 80-85% LTD with no loan concentrations and a diversified bond portfolio would be "fortress balance sheet ".
or it means they just didn't want to pull the trigger on low yield, long maturity investments.

We have $0 at risk and for years had a 65-70% loan to deposit ratio.

All that to say, just depends on the banks board preferences

Guessing your bank is privately held. The analysts would kill yiu for not earning a "good return" on that money. Which is why we get banks in trouble. Chasing returns
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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-i-think-silicon-valley-bank-situation-ray-dalio

Very good input from a well qualified source on what's going on in the macro.

Long story short - buckle up as we have multiple headwinds heading into a debt/short term contraction cycle
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