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McInnis 03 said:

CSC likes to use the Demark indicator exclusively and he's been having a good run lately. VIX could be ready to calm down, funny how that works right near the election



Hmm, never would have guessed volatility would peak here. Maybe I should close this VXX spread I've got.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

OSTK into the 50s now. Ridiculous.

Worst part is, I've seen some people forecast it down to the 40s again before a bounce back up again. I'm 72 AVG here on this now and seeing in the 50s is painful much less the 40s.
Agree, I had to bail. I would set a stop if you need to manage some risk, unless it's in an IRA and you just want to hold no matter what. Support is now 54, nearest resistance around 59.

I will re enter when the covid crap and lockdowns go away (and oil prices stabilize). You may get a great entry in a few weeks. Some think it's just the election. It is, but there's a lot more going on in the world that could send us lower. Much of Europe on lockdown for a full month is going to have an effect on everything. Sucks, but is what it is.
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FJ43 said:

Anyone else accumulate more ONTX at .25 and down to .245 today?
I've filled my allotment from earlier in the week sub .25

"Honey...where did the kids college fund go??"

"Oh its in ONTX...selling at .40"

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jwhitlock3 said:

McInnis 03 said:

CSC likes to use the Demark indicator exclusively and he's been having a good run lately. VIX could be ready to calm down, funny how that works right near the election



Hmm, never would have guessed volatility would peak here. Maybe I should close this VXX spread I've got.
Demark is like any other indicator. It CAN be wrong. I'll say that I closed most of my hedge, but rolled enough up that if VIX keeps going, I can still capitalize on it.
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AgCPA95 said:

FJ43 said:

Anyone else accumulate more ONTX at .25 and down to .245 today?
I've filled my allotment from earlier in the week sub .25

"Honey...where did the kids college fund go??"

"Oh its in ONTX...selling at .40"


I have a really good divorce attorney that I'm currently using, I'll PM you her number.
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AgCPA95 said:

FJ43 said:

Anyone else accumulate more ONTX at .25 and down to .245 today?
I've filled my allotment from earlier in the week sub .25

"Honey...where did the kids college fund go??"

"Oh its in ONTX...selling at .40"



You left out "what the hell is ONTX? I've never heard of that one before"


and yes, I already added more this week as well.

ProgN
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WTH, I bought OSTK stock just now. It's do for a snap back trade.
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I'm out of all options plays now except for a 12/18 spread. Over the last month I've traded options on 27 different occasions, with a win or breakeven on 23/27, however my losses on my 4 trades were double what my profits were. That seems insane to me, but the lesson there is pretty plain to see. I need to limit my losses and size my trades better. I got burned on DIS, RKT and AMD calls. The RKT was "such a sure winner" and the AMD was going to $100 without a doubt, so I bought more contracts, and held for too long waiting on a turn around. Learned a lot! I'll let things settle, and be ready to play again after we see how next week shakes out. Been having a lot of fun doing this with you guys!
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very casual +30 pt close there lmao. Keep riding out the storm y'all
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Interesting close.

Im getting assigned RKT at $20, happy to wheel this one for a bit. May sell another put if it keeps dipping next week.

My only calls that aren't leaps are some Nov20 RKT which I should have dumped at 50% loss earlier this week, but I didn't because I never learn my lessons.

I'm also holding those JPM Nov20 which have held up very nicely in this **** show.

Have a good wkend everyone!
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It was hard the last few weeks, but this week made me glad that I (and a lot of us) hedged and had money sitting on the sideline going in to the election

Here's for a good result next week and a better week for all of us (and the Ags killing the pigs tomorrow night)
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jwhitlock3 said:

I'm out of all options plays now except for a 12/18 spread. Over the last month I've traded options on 27 different occasions, with a win or breakeven on 23/27, however my losses on my 4 trades were double what my profits were. That seems insane to me, but the lesson there is pretty plain to see. I need to limit my losses and size my trades better. I got burned on DIS, RKT and AMD calls. The RKT was "such a sure winner" and the AMD was going to $100 without a doubt, so I bought more contracts, and held for too long waiting on a turn around. Learned a lot! I'll let things settle, and be ready to play again after we see how next week shakes out. Been having a lot of fun doing this with you guys!


Yeah those AMD calls were rough. Took to zero twice expecting it to recover after flushing weak hands... My diamond hands held to the end.
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jwhitlock3 said:

I'm out of all options plays now except for a 12/18 spread. Over the last month I've traded options on 27 different occasions, with a win or breakeven on 23/27, however my losses on my 4 trades were double what my profits were. That seems insane to me, but the lesson there is pretty plain to see. I need to limit my losses and size my trades better. I got burned on DIS, RKT and AMD calls. The RKT was "such a sure winner" and the AMD was going to $100 without a doubt, so I bought more contracts, and held for too long waiting on a turn around. Learned a lot! I'll let things settle, and be ready to play again after we see how next week shakes out. Been having a lot of fun doing this with you guys!
This thread is a lot of fun even on bad days. Y'all make me laugh throughout any given day and on 'red' days we all need a laugh now and then. Have a great weekend and BTHO the little pigs.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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Engine10 said:

very casual +30 pt close there lmao. Keep riding out the storm y'all
Mostly just shorts closing positions. I'll be curious if there's any follow through on Monday or if that rip just gets sold off.

A very good trader and friend noticed that none of the FAANG + Microsoft + Twitter gave any real guidance yesterday. He believes it was intentional. Have a great weekend!


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FJ43 said:

Something for y'all to look at.

VOXX - This is a 10 Day Hourly chart. Will it repeat tomorrow? Don't know but 4th time may also work. Volume has been lower right before it moves above the bull flag and popped above today.


This did not work today. Monitored it but broke the bottom of the flag like many things. I will continue watching it for a rebound. The big earlier volume didn't sell off so appears still holding.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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McInnis 03 said:

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Touchless said:

Can someone explain OSTK to me? Over the last two years, their high was $29.75 until their explosion in July. Going back to last October up until the Covid crash, the high was only $10. What caused this to spike like crazy in general making this such a great stock? Do people actually shop on Overstock and buy things from there all of a sudden?


Need to look closely but I believe its now trading at like 2Xs revenue. Blockchain tech which has lotsa positive pub getting no consideration in the valuation. Plus it's got leadership in place that's considered really good. This is going to require patience but I'd think this will be back near 100 within 6 mths and 125ish within a year. But the market is irrational and also who knows with lack of stimulus possibly going into next year.
Concur with this, overall sentiment is that TZero and Medici are getting zero consideration in the value calc.
Interesting. Thanks all. I'm not familiar with them enough to know about those details and also haven't studied their financials. Just wasn't sure what justified such a crazy turnaround all of a sudden.

I've only known them from like a decade ago as a company that sold stuff online. At the time, I actually thought it was supposed to be things that were overstocked and selling at a discount. They weren't really even selling at a discount though and from an ad promo I saw this past year I realized they don't really have anything to do with overstock items. Just a poorly named company I feel like.
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Touchless said:

McInnis 03 said:

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Touchless said:

Can someone explain OSTK to me? Over the last two years, their high was $29.75 until their explosion in July. Going back to last October up until the Covid crash, the high was only $10. What caused this to spike like crazy in general making this such a great stock? Do people actually shop on Overstock and buy things from there all of a sudden?


Need to look closely but I believe its now trading at like 2Xs revenue. Blockchain tech which has lotsa positive pub getting no consideration in the valuation. Plus it's got leadership in place that's considered really good. This is going to require patience but I'd think this will be back near 100 within 6 mths and 125ish within a year. But the market is irrational and also who knows with lack of stimulus possibly going into next year.
Concur with this, overall sentiment is that TZero and Medici are getting zero consideration in the value calc.
Interesting. Thanks all. I'm not familiar with them enough to know about those details and also haven't studied their financials. Just wasn't sure what justified such a crazy turnaround all of a sudden.

I've only known them from like a decade ago as a company that sold stuff online. At the time, I actually thought it was supposed to be things that were overstocked and selling at a discount. They weren't really even selling at a discount though and from an ad promo I saw this past year I realized they don't really have anything to do with overstock items. Just a poorly named company I feel like.
This. I learned a long time ago when we did a start up apparel company not to box yourself in with the name. They are far more than 'overstocked' items now.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

ProgN
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Fam, let's be like our friend across the pond 59Ag and pour a dram of scotch or pour a pint of frothy brew and just decompress for the weekend. Monday will probably be flat to lower and be ready for the chaos that is likely to occur after Tuesday. Kiss the kids, shag your girl and BTHO Arky.
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Just poured a hazy IPA and I'm sitting in the backyard watching the kids jump on the trampoline. Also got a new hot tub up and running today, so that takes care of the wife.

Life is good.
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Sexy time in the hot tub......nice.
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Prognightmare said:

Fam, let's be like our friend across the pond 59Ag and pour a dram of scotch or pour a pint of frothy brew and just decompress for the weekend. Monday will probably be flat to lower and be ready for the chaos that is likely to occur after Tuesday. Kiss the kids, shag your girl and BTHO Arky.
Sorry Prog...have a frosty one in a mug, wife watching me play my 'video game' and picked up a few AAPL shares AH with her watching. Couldn't help myself.

Now to the weekend.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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I know we're all in similar boats but 3 weeks ago I had one of my best days of the year. In my heart of hearts I knew I should make a bigger move to cash to wait out the election and add to an already sizeable move to cash I had made. But instead, I thought the market would get one more big green day and I'd unload then. It never happened.

That's my pain point right now knowing I did that. Also, not selling more OSTK pre market yesterday when it was up 15% was full on incompetence.
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Same as everyone else. I made some nice gains over the last 5-6 months but pulled the plug on almost everything today. Lost a lot of money in the last 3 days. Had to stop the bleeding
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FJ43 said:

Prognightmare said:

Fam, let's be like our friend across the pond 59Ag and pour a dram of scotch or pour a pint of frothy brew and just decompress for the weekend. Monday will probably be flat to lower and be ready for the chaos that is likely to occur after Tuesday. Kiss the kids, shag your girl and BTHO Arky.
Sorry Prog...have a frosty one in a mug, wife watching me play my 'video game' and picked up a few AAPL shares AH with her watching. Couldn't help myself.

Now to the weekend.
Motivate your trades for her. If you make this she gets...........then you get? It makes you a better trader and the reward is mutually beneficial.



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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I know we're all in similar boats but 3 weeks ago I had one of my best days of the year. In my heart of hearts I knew I should make a bigger move to cash to wait out the election and add to an already sizeable move to cash I had made. But instead, I thought the market would get one more big green day and I'd unload then. It never happened.

That's my pain point right now knowing I did that. Also, not selling more OSTK pre market yesterday when it was up 15% was full on incompetence.
It may not mean much at this moment, but you've learned a valuable lesson that will pay dividends in the future. Remember this, but don't dwell on it. JMO
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Prognightmare said:

I bet our friend in here is glad he booked that $15K profit on that AMZN call instead of gambling on their earnings.

Checking in!

(and still AMZN's #1 long fan)
ProgN
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BT1395 said:

Prognightmare said:

I bet our friend in here is glad he booked that $15K profit on that AMZN call instead of gambling on their earnings.

Checking in!

(and still AMZN's #1 long fan)
But you see why you always bank some profit on home runs like that and not get greedy and gamble with all of it?
FJ43
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Prognightmare said:

BT1395 said:

Prognightmare said:

I bet our friend in here is glad he booked that $15K profit on that AMZN call instead of gambling on their earnings.

Checking in!

(and still AMZN's #1 long fan)
But you see why you always bank some profit on home runs like that and not get greedy and gamble with all of it?
OSTK is another great example. Hovers in the high 60s to low 70s, spikes about 20% to the 83-84 range on good earnings only to fall into the high 50s a few hours later. Huge swing. Painful swing.

I can find myself guilty at times of FOMO of more upside. Lock in profits, wait for the dust to settle and buy back in if a long. If you miss some upside so be it. If the stock has support and continues its journey you may have lost a little profit but you avoided potential loss of your capital. Sometimes the hard part can be letting winners be winners and balancing banking profits. After all...it's 2020. Anything rational is out the window.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I know we're all in similar boats but 3 weeks ago I had one of my best days of the year. In my heart of hearts I knew I should make a bigger move to cash to wait out the election and add to an already sizeable move to cash I had made. But instead, I thought the market would get one more big green day and I'd unload then. It never happened.

That's my pain point right now knowing I did that. Also, not selling more OSTK pre market yesterday when it was up 15% was full on incompetence.
Same on OSTK. Heck I even watched it thinking it would find a support level and settle above the previous weeks levels. But it didn't. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.....

Added to list of do's and don'ts for me.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

FJ43
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Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

ProgN
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Sean Connery died

This year just f'ing sucks.
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If you had in the money puts in the faang names would you sell say Tuesday or hold through election. Take the money and run or is there more downside? What's y'all a opinion? Seems like a contested election or one that drags on would be bad for the market.
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Facebook or googl...hold both sides are going after those two.
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Anybody still holding TRNF? Large insider purchase this week. 5,633,866shs on 26-OCT-2020

FJ43
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RSP715 said:

If you had in the money puts in the faang names would you sell say Tuesday or hold through election. Take the money and run or is there more downside? What's y'all a opinion? Seems like a contested election or one that drags on would be bad for the market.

IMO based on the recent weeks volatility there may be more of the same for weeks to come. With that said not banking profits and letting ride at the moment speculating sentiment and reactions either way is risky. Above are a few examples where profit was taken and not taken.

Depending on how far out your dates are I'd be banking profit. Just my 2 cents.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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