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jpag said:

So I have a question for you guys. Earlier today I sold my calls on DKNG. Then I bought 5/29 DKNG puts (strike price 30) for 2.15. Later in the day I sold 5/22 puts (strike price 29) for .88. Does that strategy have a name? Can I make money with that Strategy?

I've also been doing it with my LVS and DDOG leaps. I bought in the money calls for January and then I sell shorter term out of the money calls.

Am I a complete idiot or is this a conservative way to hedge so I dont lose all the premium that I'm paying?


Looks like you set up a diagonal. Usually i see the spreads a little wider. Buying longer term premium and selling shorter term to let time decay work for you on the put you sold.
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IrishTxAggie said:

For any of you Elliott Wave theory followers


Geez one can hope, seems like my portfolio is one step forward, then two steps back. Everything was going great until that news. I need to start exiting trades more quickly for lesser gains
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BB675 said:

I got in at $1.90 and sold just north of $3. Really kicking myself but one thing I have learned since I started doing this a few months back is to not be too greedy.
Yep and the pros that I listen to in the trading room are the same way. If something gaps up nicely they just keep an eye on it and sell when the momentum falls off. They don't get greedy for sure. They use Fib levels And voodoo lines (proprietary to Simpler Trading) to figure out optimal exits.

I listen in on pro traders who show their screen and you type in questions. It's incredible what you learn When you can listen in and see how somebody that knows what they are doing actually thinks and talks out their thoughts. They discuss where to buy, we're not to buy!, Etc. when you can listen in and see how somebody that knows what they are doing actually thinks. They discuss where to buy, we're not to buy!, Etc. plus they text out their trades. NOT a PSA, they've made me good money!

I've learned more in one year with these guys that I knew in the previous 15 since I learn to trade debit spreads back in 2003

Anyway, if you are on TOS, go to the indicators and find John carter indicators. Look for the TTM Squeeze. The squeeze is the same thing as consolidation. OA was calling it coiling, same thing. Basically, it's the point where the Bolinger bands are INSIDE the Keltner Channels. When the squeeze does fire, it usually gives you a larger burst than buying something that is already in day 3 of a 7 day squeeze, or was never squeezing in the first place. These work on all time frames.

Check out John Carters "Mastering the trade". Discusses both the psychology of your mind in trading plus gets technical discussing Bolinger Bands, etc. and specific trade set ups.

If every one of you doesn't have the $tick set up as one of your screens, you are missing out! Build you a one or two minute chart and watch how it over in harmony with the QQQ and SPY. It's the heartbeat of the market and makes getting in/out at better levels easier.

It's all in the book.

Good luck!

EDIT: It's 7 bucks for the first month just to check it out. Tons of learning tutorials. They even have a beginners room, just like the gold room I listen to but more basic. For 7 bucks if you really grind and ignore your wife for a month, you could pull a crap load of knowledge off their site and move on. I think their rate is $197 per month, but I may be able to get you in as a referral. That's how I got a 147 rate, from a friend.

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Thanks
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Agzonfire said:

Will LK open above $1??
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I need to stop with these lottos. Damn crack.
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What's the name of this service?
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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I don't have a lot of LK but I'm guessing I should sell as soon as it starts trading?
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Alright, ready for the crazy new stock idea that you could make a lot of money on (but probably lose a lot of money on) ?

Enter FEAC

FEAC is Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp, a SPAC or Special Purpose Acquisition Company. Its a shell that is looking to buy/merge with another company that has already had an IPO.

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SPACs are generally formed by investors, or sponsors, with expertise in a particular industry or business sector, with the intention of pursuing deals in that area. In creating a SPAC, the founders sometimes have at least one acquisition target in mind, but they don't identify that target to avoid extensive disclosures during the IPO process. (This is why they are called "blank check companies." IPO investors have no idea what company they ultimately will be investing in.) SPACs seek underwriters and institutional investors before offering shares to the public.

The money SPACs raise in an IPO is placed in an interest-bearing trust account. These funds cannot be disbursed except to complete an acquisition or to return the money to investors if the SPAC is liquidated. A SPAC generally has two years to complete a deal or face liquidation. In some cases, some of the interest earned from the trust can be used as the SPAC's working capital. After an acquisition, a SPAC is usually listed on one of the major stock exchanges.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spac.asp

So why is FEAC interesting? Because it is run by the same people as DEAC, which brought DraftKings (DKNG) to the market.

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Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp. (FEAC.U), announced the pricing of their upsized $600 million SPAC IPO this evening and the units are expected to begin trading tomorrow, Friday, March 6th, under the symbol NYSE: FEAC.U.

Flying Eagle will be led by Harry Sloan, as CEO and Chairman, and Jeff Sagansky, as a Founding Investor. Mr. Sloan and Mr. Sagansky will be joined by Eli Baker, as President, Chief Financial Officer and Secretary. Flying Eagle is the sixth SPAC from the "Eagle" team, having previously completed Global Eagle, Silver Eagle, Double Eagle, Platinum Eagle and finally, Diamond Eagle (DEAC), which recently announced their merger with DraftKings.

https://spacinsider.com/2020/03/05/flying-eagle-announces-pricing-of-600m-spac-ipo/

Ideally you would accumulate this thing and then hope that the company they merge/acquire is a big name that shoots the value of the ticker up, like DEAC did prior to transitioning to DraftKings.

A big name like Airbnb....




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I'm in. Take my money. In all seriousness though, what about that info points to AirBnB?
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Sounds like Enrons business model
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jsap said:

What's the name of this service?

They are called Simpler Trading. They are literally down the road from me in Steiner Ranch here in Austin. My friend in Rochester told me about them!
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AggiePeeps06 said:

I'm in. Take my money. In all seriousness though, what about that info points to AirBnB?

Just a rumor twitter is throwing around. There is nothing to it -- just that this Eagle group has had enough success to warrant a look from bigger IPOs
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Ranger222 said:

Alright, ready for the crazy new stock idea that you could make a lot of money on (but probably lose a lot of money on) ?

Enter FEAC

FEAC is Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp, a SPAC or Special Purpose Acquisition Company. Its a shell that is looking to buy/merge with another company that has already had an IPO.

Quote:

SPACs are generally formed by investors, or sponsors, with expertise in a particular industry or business sector, with the intention of pursuing deals in that area. In creating a SPAC, the founders sometimes have at least one acquisition target in mind, but they don't identify that target to avoid extensive disclosures during the IPO process. (This is why they are called "blank check companies." IPO investors have no idea what company they ultimately will be investing in.) SPACs seek underwriters and institutional investors before offering shares to the public.

The money SPACs raise in an IPO is placed in an interest-bearing trust account. These funds cannot be disbursed except to complete an acquisition or to return the money to investors if the SPAC is liquidated. A SPAC generally has two years to complete a deal or face liquidation. In some cases, some of the interest earned from the trust can be used as the SPAC's working capital. After an acquisition, a SPAC is usually listed on one of the major stock exchanges.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spac.asp

So why is FEAC interesting? Because it is run by the same people as DEAC, which brought DraftKings (DKNG) to the market.

Quote:

Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp. (FEAC.U), announced the pricing of their upsized $600 million SPAC IPO this evening and the units are expected to begin trading tomorrow, Friday, March 6th, under the symbol NYSE: FEAC.U.

Flying Eagle will be led by Harry Sloan, as CEO and Chairman, and Jeff Sagansky, as a Founding Investor. Mr. Sloan and Mr. Sagansky will be joined by Eli Baker, as President, Chief Financial Officer and Secretary. Flying Eagle is the sixth SPAC from the "Eagle" team, having previously completed Global Eagle, Silver Eagle, Double Eagle, Platinum Eagle and finally, Diamond Eagle (DEAC), which recently announced their merger with DraftKings.

https://spacinsider.com/2020/03/05/flying-eagle-announces-pricing-of-600m-spac-ipo/

Ideally you would accumulate this thing and then hope that the company they merge/acquire is a big name that shoots the value of the ticker up, like DEAC did prior to transitioning to DraftKings.

A big name like Airbnb....







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Didn't realize this until researching but SPCE came on the scene with a SPAC. Here is a good reason why this may become a more favored alternative route --


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Why go public via blank check?

Going public via SPAC merger allows executives to avoid IPO roadshows and 180-day lock-ups, and this unconventional route may have appealed to Branson. With no close public peers, Virgin Galactic would have been difficult for traditional IPO investors to value, who may have questioned its astronomical projections (revenue skyrockets to $590 million in 2023, with EBITDA of $274 million). As Lyft, Uber, and WeWork have demonstrated, the IPO environment is shaky for companies with grand visions but unproven models. Virgin Galactic's owners may have wanted to lock in substantial funding without risking valuation pushback from IPO investors. In addition, public investors are often turned off by insider selling at development-stage companies.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-space-spac%3A-everything-you-need-to-know-about-virgin-galactic-2019-10-28
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Would Airbnb sell themselves at what has to be a very depressed valuation right now instead of waiting for operations to improve over the next year or two?
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Anybody know anything about NNDM?

Had a big day today. Ross at Warrior Trading made a good chunk of change on it today.
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Very interesting. In hindsight I bet WeWork wishes they had gone the SPAC route.
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You have to figure that AirBnB has no desire to go through the IPO process whether that's this year or later down the road. Seems like a SPAC would be a much smoother path and they'd get a higher valuation.
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Do we know what DEACs stock did when they acquired DKNG?

Would be interesting to look back at all the SPAC valuations before and after their acquisitions.

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This is what it looks like -- pretty stable at $10 for a long time until announcement in December, then the volume comes in a lifts it higher to double.

You're pretty much waiting until the company is announced, IF one is announced.

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AggiePeeps06 said:

You have to figure that AirBnB has no desire to go through the IPO process whether that's this year or later down the road. Seems like a SPAC would be a much smoother path and they'd get a higher valuation.


Yeah, agreed. Work just had a terrible and imo never profitable model though. I think Airbnb has much better value proposition. They just ran into a once in a century black swan here. The ipo process is definitely something that Silicon Valley is probably getting apprehensive about moving forward, regardless.
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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OverSeas AG said:

So WMT didn't mention ZEST today in their ER?

I am not in ZEST, but have been following it on here.
I don't think so. I did a word find and nothing on zest or company name.
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OverSeas AG said:

leoj said:

AggiePeeps06 said:

You have to figure that AirBnB has no desire to go through the IPO process whether that's this year or later down the road. Seems like a SPAC would be a much smoother path and they'd get a higher valuation.


Yeah, agreed. Work just had a terrible and imo never profitable model though. I think Airbnb has much better value proposition. They just ran into a once in a century black swan here. The ipo process is definitely something that Silicon Valley is probably getting apprehensive about moving forward, regardless.
From an institutional investor, they have to be more interested in this as well. almost feels more like a private placement rather than an IPO.


If they can explain how they decrease the marketing/operating expenses within a year or two to become profitable, it's a no brainer. $1.1b in Q4 2019 rev growing at over 30%. They had over $2b in cash on hand. So they are getting whacked, but they have slashed the workforce to adjust and hang in there until things turn back up.
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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My bad, gotcha.
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Ranger222 said:

Alright, ready for the crazy new stock idea that you could make a lot of money on (but probably lose a lot of money on) ?

Enter FEAC

FEAC is Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp, a SPAC or Special Purpose Acquisition Company. Its a shell that is looking to buy/merge with another company that has already had an IPO.

Quote:

SPACs are generally formed by investors, or sponsors, with expertise in a particular industry or business sector, with the intention of pursuing deals in that area. In creating a SPAC, the founders sometimes have at least one acquisition target in mind, but they don't identify that target to avoid extensive disclosures during the IPO process. (This is why they are called "blank check companies." IPO investors have no idea what company they ultimately will be investing in.) SPACs seek underwriters and institutional investors before offering shares to the public.

The money SPACs raise in an IPO is placed in an interest-bearing trust account. These funds cannot be disbursed except to complete an acquisition or to return the money to investors if the SPAC is liquidated. A SPAC generally has two years to complete a deal or face liquidation. In some cases, some of the interest earned from the trust can be used as the SPAC's working capital. After an acquisition, a SPAC is usually listed on one of the major stock exchanges.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spac.asp

So why is FEAC interesting? Because it is run by the same people as DEAC, which brought DraftKings (DKNG) to the market.

Quote:

Flying Eagle Acquisition Corp. (FEAC.U), announced the pricing of their upsized $600 million SPAC IPO this evening and the units are expected to begin trading tomorrow, Friday, March 6th, under the symbol NYSE: FEAC.U.

Flying Eagle will be led by Harry Sloan, as CEO and Chairman, and Jeff Sagansky, as a Founding Investor. Mr. Sloan and Mr. Sagansky will be joined by Eli Baker, as President, Chief Financial Officer and Secretary. Flying Eagle is the sixth SPAC from the "Eagle" team, having previously completed Global Eagle, Silver Eagle, Double Eagle, Platinum Eagle and finally, Diamond Eagle (DEAC), which recently announced their merger with DraftKings.

https://spacinsider.com/2020/03/05/flying-eagle-announces-pricing-of-600m-spac-ipo/

Ideally you would accumulate this thing and then hope that the company they merge/acquire is a big name that shoots the value of the ticker up, like DEAC did prior to transitioning to DraftKings.

A big name like Airbnb....







You son of a gun....I'm in!

Edit: That really is the queens money being invested by AIMCO....

https://www.gurufocus.com/guru/Her+Majesty+the+Queen+in+Right+of+the+Province+of+Alberta+as+represented+by+Alberta+Investment+Manag/profile
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12thMan86 said:

12thMan86 said:

NIIICE flush at the end. Bought some 5/22 SPY 300 puts about 30 mins before close x 4 and made $508. Never hit my stop. So nice to get in at the right spot, for a change!
fyi not that this makes a damn bit of difference. The guys I follow use an indicator called VOODOO lines, and I've seen stocks reverse to the PENNY using these things. The Voodoo support/resistance has always been at 2934, and we broke it on the last 15 min candle.

Probably means we rip up tomorrow, but just thought I'd put that out there.


So far so good
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LK is actually trading pre-market around $3.30 right now.
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