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Fitch said:

TV Casualty said:

Why is the coronavirus so much different than the swine flu? The swine flu infected 60 million people and 12,000 died in the U.S.

We didn't have a vaccine for the swine flu then and the whole world didn't freak out to this extent.
As of yesterday I would have said this is hyperbole and media sensationalism. Given the event cancellations and travel restrictions it's a little harder to make the case after today.

This evening I spoke with my roommate from A&M who has five or six medical degrees - he's dead set "this is the big one."
Interesting. My friend with several medical degrees thinks it's not nearly that bad.
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I think Fitch has it right.

The mortality rate of this version isn't the scariest part...it's how contagious it is.

Let's hope that COVID 2.0 doesn't figure out how to be more deadly...or (alternatively) that immunity from exposure to 1.0 (or vaccines) will soften the blow...
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It's been years since I've studied virology, but it seems to me a highly contagious virus has a lot of chances to adapt...and not to our advantage.

Let's hope the top of the food chain is at the top for a reason...
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Here's hoping your buddy is right. Frankly even with the pessimism brought about by the events of today and yesterday I still don't think the data are good enough to forecast this issue with any surety.

But at least as of today my grandparents are asking us to not visit for some unknown duration. So yeah, people are apparently spooked.
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GasPasser97 said:



Let's hope the top of the food chain is at the top for a reason...
Not to sound like a smartazz but God put us there, so yes we're here for a reason
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What's a good candidate to sell short first thing tomorrow and then buy back before close? Anybody got any ideas? Airlines? Disney if they close their parks?
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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

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Because it's an election year and this has been weaponized and sensationalized by the press the crater the markets to damage Trump. That's all this is.


Italy shut down half the nation and China shut down manufacturing to damage Trump?
Nope. They shut down because they are Communists and Socialists and their iron fisted governments couldn't control Mother Nature and an infection she cast upon the earth.

Otherwise, yes, the MSM is weaponizing the virus as fear to panic Americans and kill our economy in an effort to derail re-election.



I'm sorry, but I can't believe someone could be this ignorant. Perhaps you should read some first hand accounts from Doctors in Italy hospital before spewing lies. If it was being weaponized, why would the NBA shut down the season? Companies across the world are canceling conferences. This is a serious threat, but by all means let's go ahead and just spew lies.
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Guys, we have a whole forum for politics
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jbeck3487 said:

Guys, we have a whole forum for politics


Unfortunately sports or even business can't always exist by themselves. This event is effecting everything whether we want it to or not.
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jbeck3487 said:

Guys, we have a whole forum for politics
Yes and they should pack up and go back there. We have a bunch of great contributors here, Farmer is one of my favorites. If Rice and Fries doesn't like his views, grow a pair.
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We have major supports at the beginning stages of throwing in the towel.

ADBE $300 is significant. Very easy to see the big names flash well below in the coming day(s). Some LEAP options opportunities will be presented.

SPCE is down to $15 and I could see it flash to close to $10. That would be a $20 LEAP example out to 2022 at that point.

Yes things are going to be nasty but the world isn't ending.
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aggiedaniel06 said:

I'm not talking about some BS intraday technicals. Every single correction since 2009, regardless of the underlying narrative, whether it was QT (2011), Brexit/Energy crash (2015), interest rate hikes (2018), bottomed at the 200 week MA.
I was going yo post the chart but why bother since It seems you won't listen. $2630 is that number and also the fib retracement from 2008.


Saw futures are at 2620. What happens, in your opinion, if we finish lower than that? Thanks!
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PDEMDHC said:

aggiedaniel06 said:

I'm not talking about some BS intraday technicals. Every single correction since 2009, regardless of the underlying narrative, whether it was QT (2011), Brexit/Energy crash (2015), interest rate hikes (2018), bottomed at the 200 week MA.
I was going yo post the chart but why bother since It seems you won't listen. $2630 is that number and also the fib retracement from 2008.


Saw futures are at 2620. What happens, in your opinion, if we finish lower than that? Thanks!


Going to be an interesting open to see if we just flashed down here and come out or if we tumble. Seems like really bad news if we can't get back up above the 200wk average today
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MSFT down over $5 more. I'd think with video conferencing components to 365 it would get some interest.

ZM LOGM WORK should be watchlisted for volume spikes as video conferencing is going to soar.
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Bought MSFT $146 down over $7.50
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Bought ROKU $80
Added more at $77.50

This was my back the truck up area $75-80. Regardless of where she flashes to it will be back over $100.
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I have seen some say 2350 (the Dec '18 low).
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SPCE $13.45. Getting closer
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This is just one situation... but I wanted to share it.

My wife works with kids with autism in clinics. This is a growing company that's been doing great the last few years and has, mostly, treated her very well.

Last week, the company announced a freeze on all hiring and started letting go staff to all those under certain criteria of billable hours. According to my wife, I think roughly 3 of 15 in her office have been let go.

A place like this make zero money if kids don't show up. It's a public gathering. Technology and the job allow home therapy, but a person must be present. That would be tricky as the company would pivot with no warning and who knows about the panic of having someone in your home at a time like this. I know of other in home companies that are dropping staff and clients as parents are starting to cancel/refuse service.

What has ensued is drama/BS that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. I had to explain to her and a coworker last night why drastic measures were taking place. These are the people that don't pay attention to the news. They understand now.

Best guess from my experience is that there is part of the population starting to realize the matter at hand. Americans who ignored what's been happening finally took notice in the last day or two.
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Neighbor is a corporate Delta employee. Yesterday they had more cancellations than bookings for the first time since 9/11. They are scrambling to get everyone home from Europe over the next 48 hours.

Friend works at Turner/TBS and he said one case of a player with Corona and March Madness will be over. It makes them a ton of money so he is worried.
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We are limit down again AH.

Only 2 times we have shed -10% to -15% in a 3 day period, both in 08 - Both bounced. But I'm still not seeing signs of bottoming yet.

Also the velocity of this is absurd. We are stretched so far below MAs, mean reverting algos have probably blown up or at least no longer on, so BTFD is in major trouble until we show some signs of bottoming.
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Hadn't looked at micron one a month since selling. It's almost back to where I bought it last year.
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oldarmy1 said:

Bought ROKU $80
Added more at $77.50

This was my back the truck up area $75-80. Regardless of where she flashes to it will be back over $100.
put in a limit order here as well. Boarding a flight.
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Just wired more money into my TDA account. Looking at ROKU and AMD at the open, stock not options.
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I bought SQQQ when the EXT AM opened.
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DIS under 100, AMZN near 1700, dayum!
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Here is what one trader said this morning:

My internal energy model is suggesting the bottoming process should be complete late this month followed by a pretty strong rally.


I don't know how anyone could know something like this, but what do you traders think of that statement?

Note: He doesn't think we drop another 20%.
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CCL suspending 18 princess cruises for 2 months
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I had a ROKU 90/85 put credit spread on that I figured would never touch strikes..............hahahahahaha
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McInnis 03 said:

CCL suspending 18 princess cruises for 2 months
now THAT makes a lot of sense.
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claym711 said:


Also the velocity of this is absurd.

One of the effects of short gamma
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What's the guess, when we hit the Circuit breaker, does everyone come back buying like nuts???
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Delta. Woof.
My brother-in-law is trying to get to his wife in Ireland before Friday. Hard to get a flight because of the cancellations. They're close to getting her visa but this might put a kink in the process.
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