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Heineken-Ashi
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Seems like we're moving into a downward trend until 2025, no?
I've said before, but once the market confirms top is in, I think we are in a potentially 1-2 decade downtrend that will have retracements in between that mimick frustrating 1-2 year bull markets that ultimately fail.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

ALB has dropped below the 61.8% retrace of its last move up and now recovered. Really need that to hold as bottom. If so, I've got some targets going up and applied a loose wave count as possible path. Yellow is an alternate bullish path showing a choppy diagonal up which does grow in probability when Wave ii drops below the 61.8%.


OK - I'm truly not trying to start a Friday argument here, but just want to present a friendly counterpoint to the casual readers of this thread, as a public service message from another view:

This is what I refer to as the "voodoo" of technical analysis, and why I don't consider it a viable tool for most investing decisions. As near as I can tell, H-A ascribes to a theory that all stocks go through a series of "waves" of price movement that are clearly predictive (with start and stop points magically picked by the psychic chartist). That is, unless they're not "confirmed", whatever that means. So, in a vacuum devoid of real economic news, such as jobs reports, inflation, interest rate changes, etc., stocks always follow this course. It's bunk.

We, of course, live in the real world where market-wide news matters, and this micro-approach has no more predictive value than flipping a coin. Fundamentals (revenue trends, earnings growth, market share and the like) do matter, and have much more influence longer-term, and shouldn't be ignored in the short term, either.

There are useful reasons to pay attention to technical analysis, mostly on selecting entry/exit points when your investing decision is already made. Price/volume activity, insider buying, and others are very helpful. But the biggest use is to benefit from the other sheep that follow these momentum-based theories, thus you can benefit from the self-fulfilling prophecy of like-minded people influencing the market at the fringes.

I am on record that H-A brings great stock-picking ideas to the thread, and his commentary is very helpful to get into the hive-mind of other pseudo-science "seers" of future price movement. But, it's not gospel, and generally not accurate. Just one person's opinion, for what that's worth.
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Now time to look at re-entry points for SMCI.

Zooming way out, looks like 350 and 310 might be good ones.
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I've never claimed to be gospel and have reiterated time and again that the predictive nature of EW is loose at best and that it's most useful for determining support and resistance levels. I've also made it clear that I use multiple indicators outside of EW to help determine my potential targets.
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Well historically September is bad, but election season, job reports, etc… This is all speculation
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I bleed maroon said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

ALB has dropped below the 61.8% retrace of its last move up and now recovered. Really need that to hold as bottom. If so, I've got some targets going up and applied a loose wave count as possible path. Yellow is an alternate bullish path showing a choppy diagonal up which does grow in probability when Wave ii drops below the 61.8%.


OK - I'm truly not trying to start a Friday argument here, but just want to present a friendly counterpoint to the casual readers of this thread, as a public service message from another view:

This is what I refer to as the "voodoo" of technical analysis, and why I don't consider it a viable tool for most investing decisions. As near as I can tell, H-A ascribes to a theory that all stocks go through a series of "waves" of price movement that are clearly predictive (with start and stop points magically picked by the psychic chartist). That is, unless they're not "confirmed", whatever that means. So, in a vacuum devoid of real economic news, such as jobs reports, inflation, interest rate changes, etc., stocks always follow this course. It's bunk.

We, of course, live in the real world where market-wide news matters, and this micro-approach has no more predictive value than flipping a coin. Fundamentals (revenue trends, earnings growth, market share and the like) do matter, and have much more influence longer-term, and shouldn't be ignored in the short term, either.

There are useful reasons to pay attention to technical analysis, mostly on selecting entry/exit points when your investing decision is already made. Price/volume activity, insider buying, and others are very helpful. But the biggest use is to benefit from the other sheep that follow these momentum-based theories, thus you can benefit from the self-fulfilling prophecy of like-minded people influencing the market at the fringes.

I am on record that H-A brings great stock-picking ideas to the thread, and his commentary is very helpful to get into the hive-mind of other pseudo-science "seers" of future price movement. But, it's not gospel, and generally not accurate. Just one person's opinion, for what that's worth.


Does it really matter if the price movement is due to fundamentals or "sheep" as you put it following chart patterns? I'm for whatever best predicts the move.
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FishrCoAg said:




Does it really matter if the price movement is due to fundamentals or "sheep" as you put it following chart patterns? I'm for whatever best predicts the move.
That's my whole point. In the short-term, there's really nothing that's effectively "predictive". And in the longer term, fundamentals are much more impactful than technicals for future stock prices. And the macro market trends probably trump both in terms of magnitude - we don't live in a vacuum.

Invest at your own risk.
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Fed Waller comes in with comments trying to save the day.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

I've never claimed to be gospel and have reiterated time and again that the predictive nature of EW is loose at best and that it's most useful for determining support and resistance levels. I've also made it clear that I use multiple indicators outside of EW to help determine my potential targets.
Yep - and you're pretty darn good at disclosing the basis of your thesis (for instance, you usually say when you're basing your decisions on pure technicals, without any fundamental analysis), which helps a lot.

I have absolutely no issue with your contributions to the board - they're significant! I just would hate to think that novice traders think this is "the way" to invest, without considering unmentioned alternative methods.

Happy trading!
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A service I am on regularly has the main person in charge start his weekly analyses (EW technical talk) with a disclaimer to the extent of 'please don't ask if something could happen, all moves are possible in the market, it's about what is most likely to happen'. If someone knew what the market would do all of the time they wouldn't run a service or talk about their system.

Technical EW analysis works best in certain set ups as to waves/market conditions, and it is profitable as such, imho. It's not something that can claim clairvoyance about something resembling BA's massive troubles etc.
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I bleed maroon said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

I've never claimed to be gospel and have reiterated time and again that the predictive nature of EW is loose at best and that it's most useful for determining support and resistance levels. I've also made it clear that I use multiple indicators outside of EW to help determine my potential targets.
Yep - and you're pretty darn good at disclosing the basis of your thesis (for instance, you usually say when you're basing your decisions on pure technicals, without any fundamental analysis), which helps a lot.

I have absolutely no issue with your contributions to the board - they're significant! I just would hate to think that novice traders think this is "the way" to invest, without considering unmentioned alternative methods.

Happy trading!
No problem brother. I disclose my thesis SO THAT novice traders know exactly where I am coming from and where my outlook might fail. I hope they can learn from multiple types of analysis, as it all matters. Stock have to trade on fundamentals, but fundamentals don't always drive the movement. If they did, you'd have long periods of sideways action with no volume. Yet stocks are always moving. Take WWR 2021 for example. That wasn't fundamentals. And it was only loosely at best news. It was a short term pump that was WAY overdone. As of right NOW, the enterprise value of WWR looking 5-10 years in the future indicates a $10 stock price, but they still have to get through DD on recently announced debt to complete funding of their initial plant. In 2021, there was no signs of a plant, just the bullish thesis of what the company wanted to do. The stock pumped beyond any reasonable valuation measure. That's purely sentiment. And sentiment can be measured with technical analysis. While fundamentalists would have stayed away, sentiment and technical traders like OA were able to acquire a boatload of shares, sell a large portion to go net free, and now are sitting on a treasure box of shares for FREE. If the companie's thesis plays out, those people are going to be RICH. And it's because they applied trading strategies that incorporated more than just long term fundamental analysis.

And for the record, I have 10k WWR in one account and 5k in another. And I fully plan to double those towards the end of the year if we get news that the debt they just secured is on track to close.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

I bleed maroon said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

I've never claimed to be gospel and have reiterated time and again that the predictive nature of EW is loose at best and that it's most useful for determining support and resistance levels. I've also made it clear that I use multiple indicators outside of EW to help determine my potential targets.
Yep - and you're pretty darn good at disclosing the basis of your thesis (for instance, you usually say when you're basing your decisions on pure technicals, without any fundamental analysis), which helps a lot.

I have absolutely no issue with your contributions to the board - they're significant! I just would hate to think that novice traders think this is "the way" to invest, without considering unmentioned alternative methods.

Happy trading!
No problem brother. I disclose my thesis SO THAT novice traders know exactly where I am coming from and where my outlook might fail. I hope they can learn from multiple types of analysis, as it all matters. Stock have to trade on fundamentals, but fundamentals don't always drive the movement. If they did, you'd have long periods of sideways action with no volume. Yet stocks are always moving. Take WWR 2021 for example. That wasn't fundamentals. And it was only loosely at best news. It was a short term pump that was WAY overdone. As of right NOW, the enterprise value of WWR looking 5-10 years in the future indicates a $10 stock price, but they still have to get through DD on recently announced debt to complete funding of their initial plant. In 2021, there was no signs of a plant, just the bullish thesis of what the company wanted to do. The stock pumped beyond any reasonable valuation measure. That's purely sentiment. And sentiment can be measured with technical analysis. While fundamentalists would have stayed away, sentiment and technical traders like OA were able to acquire a boatload of shares, sell a large portion to go net free, and now are sitting on a treasure box of shares for FREE. If the companie's thesis plays out, those people are going to be RICH. And it's because they applied trading strategies that incorporated more than just long term fundamental analysis.

And for the record, I have 10k WWR in one account and 5k in another. And I fully plan to double those towards the end of the year if we get news that the debt they just secured is on track to close.
you just described a pump and dump in very polite terms.
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100%
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All good brother, we can agree to disagree. You have some great posts - in particular there was one in the "buying physical gold and silver" thread about just trading the metals ETF's (or combined with owning physical).
I think HA's EW works like anything else because of levels and reasonable stops. I like that's it's another tool to look at.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Cru said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Also buying DDD this week. Earnings Thursday. There's a good chance a very long term bottom was hit, and I have $6-$7 target range for a Christmas rally going as late as Jan/Feb. Stop just below $2.27 recent low. Phenomenal R/R



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Past couple of days change anything for you with this one?
Obviously getting one more low. My stop is $1.7. Taking on more risk because this makes more sense as an ending move than beginning of a much lower pattern.
HA, coming back around to see if you have changed your mind on this? I'm adding at the 1.86 level. I still agree that this is a long term bottom but target is around $4. I'll keep adding on the way down to $1.70 if it should go that way.
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Well SMCI has certainly humbled me. Had been having way too good of a year with TNA.

Stopped out at $390, down 30%, wiped out the vast majority of my TNA gains in my Roth account in about two weeks.

Gonna be rotating a bunch of that into TNA, TQQQ, and SOXL as we continue to fall.

SMCI re-entry currently set at $355 for a smaller number of shares.
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My NVDA short today was one of the more annoying trades I've been in in a while. Stopped out twice after taking initial covers. Re-entered a 3rd time and finally down to my last portion. Done with a solid week.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Well SMCI has certainly humbled me. Had been having way too good of a year with TNA.

Stopped out at $390, down 30%, wiped out the vast majority of my TNA gains in my Roth account in about two weeks.

Gonna be rotating a bunch of that into TNA, TQQQ, and SOXL as we continue to fall.

SMCI re-entry currently set at $355 for a smaller number of shares.
Still with the triple leverage, Brian?



By the way, as I think you know, these are my 3 favorite choices for buying put hedges. Sold some of the SOXL and TQQQs today.
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Spoony Love said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Cru said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Also buying DDD this week. Earnings Thursday. There's a good chance a very long term bottom was hit, and I have $6-$7 target range for a Christmas rally going as late as Jan/Feb. Stop just below $2.27 recent low. Phenomenal R/R



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Past couple of days change anything for you with this one?
Obviously getting one more low. My stop is $1.7. Taking on more risk because this makes more sense as an ending move than beginning of a much lower pattern.
HA, coming back around to see if you have changed your mind on this? I'm adding at the 1.86 level. I still agree that this is a long term bottom but target is around $4. I'll keep adding on the way down to $1.70 if it should go that way.
With plays like this, I set my stop and set my target and leave it alone. I rarely ever adjust or bail early. It's a risk/reward play. I am ok losing 75% of these because the ones that work easily pay for the ones that don't.

Lately, bullish plays have been getting stopped out more than normal. This market is teetering on going full bearish. I've been harping on risk management and having stops. Hope everyone listened.
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I bleed maroon said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Well SMCI has certainly humbled me. Had been having way too good of a year with TNA.

Stopped out at $390, down 30%, wiped out the vast majority of my TNA gains in my Roth account in about two weeks.

Gonna be rotating a bunch of that into TNA, TQQQ, and SOXL as we continue to fall.

SMCI re-entry currently set at $355 for a smaller number of shares.
Still with the triple leverage, Brian?



By the way, as I think you know, these are my 3 favorite choices for buying put hedges. Sold some of the SOXL and TQQQs today.
Because they are a great swing trade opportunity in dips like this, and they've been by far my most successful trades, in particular TNA.

Granted, most of my buy targets are still quite a ways down and may not execute. But if they do, they could become very profitable.

All about not getting greedy and taking your profits at each target.

Big losses like SMCI hurt of course, but as long as I don't fall into emotional trading like I have in the past, no reason to avoid all risky trades completely.
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Just a slow grind lower
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Safe to say my SPY 560 cc's aren't going to get assigned today...
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I just bought some speculative $548 SPY calls expiring next Thursday. We'll see how this goes...
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I hope ProgN is doing OK. Haven't heard from him in a while. With the kind of money he has invested in just SMCI and POWL he has to be somewhat concerned. But in time those investments will work out.


Many of us have made $$$ from Prog's info. My thanks to him.
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SW AG80 said:

I hope ProgN is doing OK. Haven't heard from him in a while. With the kind of money he has invested in just SMCI and POWL he has to be somewhat concerned. But in time those investments will work out.


Many of us have made $$$ from Prog's info. My thanks to him.
ProgN is pretty much the gold standard around here for disclosure of his thought process and investment thesis. I hope he continues to provide ideas to the board, so we can all make our own decisions.
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Roaring Kitty tweeted for the first time in a couple of months.

If anybody on Twitter wants to try to get attention on the shorts on POWL, that tweet would be a great spot to comment.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

SMCI - It's been a wild ride since late last year. Before the turn of the year boom, I was looking for $100 in more of a measured correction off the August 2023 high. Instead, it was more of a sideways consolidation and ProgN nailed it to the upside, informing everyone here along the way. But like many stocks that go "too far too fast", the correction that never came tends to make the next seem much worse. And here we are. Choppy down initially into the $600's, choppy back up to $1,000 but below the high. From there, we have five pretty clear waves down. All of that encompassing a 3-wave abc correction pattern. Because the initial move off the high was only a 3-wave move down in April, and because this most recent move was 5-waves down, those happenings make it clear that is a corrective move, meaning that once this current downside structure completes, if it hasn't already, I don't see this just tearing off to massive new lows immediately. For that to be the case, the initial move down off the 2024 high into April would have needed to be a 5-wave pattern, and it wasn't. It "should" get a sizeable bounce soon. So what to expect next?

To start, I'm not sold it has bottomed, though I will be surprised if it gets lower than $375. The reason is that the first fib retracement level of the last 5-wave move up comes in at $379. That also happens to be within a dollar of the level where the C wave of this 3-wave pattern from the high equals 161.8% of the A wave, the golden ratio, and a very common landing place for C waves. Not shown on the chart below is the weekly 144 fib number EMA at $375. Just far too much confluence there between $375 and $380 to not be significant support. But this is the stock market we are dealing with, so I never assume a play is dead until the whistle is blown.

But if I am assuming it's either bottomed or is about to, I see two potential paths.

The one that would catch the most people offsides is the green path, where it makes a V shaped recovery, gives some back, and then goes higher into earnings. This could terminate anywhere between the high $600's and low $900's, though the most confluence with EMA's and other indicators is in the $700's. If you were to see that take shape, I'd use it as an opportunity to lessen the load and wait to see if it can hold a support level. Because if not, new lows would then be ripe as a possibility heading into an election.

The other possibility is more of a drawn-out path shown in yellow, likely to be a choppier path, with the same resistance levels, just likely taking through end of year or early next year and giving you a Christmas rally to celebrate before it fails to new lows.

The point here is, I'm expecting the next move to be an upward correction in a longer drawn, larger degree correction that could ultimately revisit the 2023 lows. It certainly doesn't have to be though. What would I look for to turn me bullish? I'd have to see a clear 5-wave impulsive move with little overlap into the $800-$900's and possibly even past $1,000. If so, I'd be looking to the next corrective pullback to enter my longs for new ATH's, with solid R/R between target and stop level. As of now, the move off the low this week is ugly and choppy which is what leads me to believe it's not quite done.

As far as my timed targets system, I don't have anything reliable in either direction right now except one that goes out over a year, and it's a lower target. The lack of reliable targets is also what is leading me to sitting and watching with no position. If we do get $380 or lower, I'll likely wait for signs of bottom to grab 100 shares with a stop just below that bottom. It should be fairly easy to make decent money if that lower range can hold in the coming days to weeks, even if it's not the most ideal path upward. If $375 breaks, even though it will show as massively oversold, I'll be staying away, as it will be beyond any support levels leaving it wide open to do just about anything. And I don't like purely gambling.

I know many of you don't care for Elliott Wave, and many others simply don't understand it, the labels, or the lingo. Feel free to ask questions. I'm not predicting anything here. I'm merely laying out what seems to be the most probable scenarios. This is where Elliott Wave shines. As a template that shows you support and resistance and potential targets along the way. But just because you have a blueprint doesn't mean it's smart to start buying materials. The place to enter for the most consistent gains is during a Wave 2 or the earliest stages of a 3rd wave, as the 3rd wave is where the money rolls in. You can see proof of that late last year on my chart.


$382 was hit. Just shy of what I laid out in this post. The action is too sloppy to chart on a micro or nano level. It's showing as oversold on every level up to weekly which is close to oversold. But indicators like RSI can become "embedded" at lows, so not reliable at dictating a bottom. I'm still watching $375-$380 range and how it acts coming off of that. Do not buy the dip, because you truly don't know if it's a dip or a speed bump. Like I mentioned above, I'm looking for an impulsive move off the low. If we get it, with a clearly choppy and corrective retrace that can hold 50-61.8% of the initial move off the low, THEN I will buy with a stop just below to minimize potential losses.
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I bleed maroon said:

SW AG80 said:

I hope ProgN is doing OK. Haven't heard from him in a while. With the kind of money he has invested in just SMCI and POWL he has to be somewhat concerned. But in time those investments will work out.


Many of us have made $$$ from Prog's info. My thanks to him.
ProgN is pretty much the gold standard around here for disclosure of his thought process and investment thesis. I hope he continues to provide ideas to the board, so we can all make our own decisions.
He's not going anywhere. He's probably just rolling out of bed with his fun pal.
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You're just trying to get him to talk about her again so you can invoke Rule #1. Smart...
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AgEng06 said:

You're just trying to get him to talk about her again so you can invoke Rule #1. Smart...
Rule #96 Etiquette isn't old-fashioned. It's sexy.
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CLSK - I'm doubling my position under $8. Stop will be based on BTC. Below $40k and I will be out of everything BTC related. MARA $10-$12 looks likely to happen and I'll likely add to that too.
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So about that rotation into small caps.. do yall now see why I said dont trust it?
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TSLA is likely to be frustrating this month, but I'm looking for it to hold $200 which could provide a path to $300+ moving into next year.

I personally don't have a stop. TSLA is my longest term hold and is ride or die. If we break $200 I will buy more above $175. And if we revisit this year's lows or even lower, I'll be doubling or tripling my position. This is the only stock I hold this view on and the only one I am throwing risk management to the wind, as I'm betting on Elon and his shift of TSLA to a diversified technology company. Please understand what I just wrote. I have no risk management on TSLA. I am absolutely not advising anyone to follow on that thesis.
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jeez, what the heck happened to PATH...thought everything in the ER and guidance yesterday was strong...getting smoked today...
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EnronAg said:

jeez, what the heck happened to PATH...thought everything in the ER and guidance yesterday was strong...getting smoked today...
If it can hold $11.50 I might buy for a great R/R play with a stop likely just below $11 and minimum target of $15 and max target of $18.
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