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In reply to badharambe • 11:15a, 12/3/20
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nice curl today.

long shares and 12/18 calls.
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11:16a, 12/3/20
NET just bouncing between 74 & 75 today. Needs to break though 75 with conviction
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11:18a, 12/3/20
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Wanted to get the opinion of the board. I know it is always best to go net free, however on a stock like Apple for example which continues to grow and pays a dividend. Do you go net free or keep letting it ride?
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11:23a, 12/3/20
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Is the Slack channel still active? I just saw the posts about it back from early August when I was out.
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 11:28a, 12/3/20
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Is the Slack channel still active? I just saw the posts about it back from early August when I was out.
It is still there. Active is a stretch. Mostly just a better way of seeing OA tweets.
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In reply to tramaro1 • 11:28a, 12/3/20
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tramaro1 said:
Wanted to get the opinion of the board. I know it is always best to go net free, however on a stock like Apple for example which continues to grow and pays a dividend. Do you go net free or keep letting it ride?
I make my decisions on a case by case basis. I always ask myself if I think I have something lined up that will outperform that capital in the short to medium term. If yes, then go net free and buy something else. If no, then leave it until you spot something better. This has worked well for me on momo stocks that I've had strong conviction holding full for well more than a double... for example - NIO 900%, ROKU 525%, SQ 325% I'm still holding full because they are trend/growth stocks which I have higher targets on in the medium term. I've sold others like JD, MGNI and soon to be AMD when they've gone over double because I'm not as convicted or had some other reason... I've never sold AMZN because it's a safe investment for me and own it in taxable account for a few years. Now if they split, and it races to something absurd like $10k per share pre-split, then I'd probably sell half... or sell some covered calls... come on Jeff Bozo split your damn stock already!!!!

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11:28a, 12/3/20
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Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
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In reply to 59 South • 11:29a, 12/3/20
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59 South said:
tramaro1 said:
Wanted to get the opinion of the board. I know it is always best to go net free, however on a stock like Apple for example which continues to grow and pays a dividend. Do you go net free or keep letting it ride?
I make my decisions on a case by case basis. I always ask myself if I think I have something lined up that will outperform that capital in the short to medium term. If yes, then go net free and buy something else. If no, then leave it until you spot something better. This has worked well for me on momo stocks that I've had strong conviction holding full for well more than a double... for example - NIO 900%, ROKU 525%, SQ 325% I'm still holding full because they are trend/growth stocks which I have higher targets on in the medium term. I've sold others like JD, MGNI and soon to be AMD when they've gone over double because I'm not as convicted or had some other reason... I've never sold AMZN because it's a safe investment for me and own it in taxable account for a few years. Now if they split, and it races to something absurd like $10k per share pre-split, then I'd probably sell half... or sell some covered calls... come on Jeff Bozo split your damn stock already!!!!

Planted AAPL long ago but if you have it post split I would want $140 before planting it. But when it gets there do plant it.
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 11:31a, 12/3/20
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oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
Glad you finally joined the party OA! Let's roll! I'm still holding my full load of 12/18 87.5s from 2.50 entry a couple weeks ago.
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In reply to tramaro1 • 11:32a, 12/3/20
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tramaro1 said:
Wanted to get the opinion of the board. I know it is always best to go net free, however on a stock like Apple for example which continues to grow and pays a dividend. Do you go net free or keep letting it ride?

Do not confuse this thread with investing in the stock market. It is a TRADING thread, focused on short-term actions for people who are knowledgeable about options and other advanced strategies. I believe you are talking about a buy-and-hold position in AAPL, in which case, you should ignore this thread. Whether you take some gains or not depends more on these:

  • If you believe you are over-allocated in AAPL vs. the rest of your portfolio, sell some (net free is a simple approach of selling enough to cover your initial investment, and ride with the remainder - it's a sound approach which I and many others use, but there's no magic to it)
  • If you have other investments that you believe will outperform AAPL, sell some of it
  • If you think AAPL has run its' course, and worse times are ahead, sell all of it
  • Look at your tax situation before taking action as well. If it's in a tax-deferred account, capital gains don't apply. If it's in a taxable account, look at whether it is a short-term gain or long-term gain to determine tax treatment related to your other investment results this calendar year.

I have asked OA (or TexAgs) to change the title of this thread several times to "Active Traders" or something like that to avoid this type of issue. So far, no luck.

Hope that helps.
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In reply to 59 South • 11:33a, 12/3/20
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Thanks for the insight good stuff!
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In reply to 59 South • 11:34a, 12/3/20
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Tagged along. In for 40.
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In reply to 59 South • 11:34a, 12/3/20
59 South said:
oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
Glad you finally joined the party OA! Let's roll! I'm still holding my full load of 12/18 87.5s from 2.50 entry a couple weeks ago.
In at $1.35
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In reply to Orlando Ayala Cant Read • 11:34a, 12/3/20
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:
Those of you still in on $WKHS , there was a story yesterday that USPS was delaying its contract announcement yet again and that sent the stock tumbling AH yesterday.

There's some dispute on whether the story is accurate but even if it is, what do you guys think of the Jan 15 $19 @ $3.90 call? Seems like a good deal on the surface.


Glad I did this, up 34% in one day but #SHBM
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In reply to BrokeAssAggie • 11:35a, 12/3/20
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CrazyRichAggie said:
59 South said:
oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
Glad you finally joined the party OA! Let's roll! I'm still holding my full load of 12/18 87.5s from 2.50 entry a couple weeks ago.
In at $1.35


1.35 as well
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11:36a, 12/3/20
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I missed that chance to sell the CRM calls this morning. Hopefully it continues to build throughout the day.
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In reply to I bleed maroon • 11:37a, 12/3/20
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I bleed maroon said:
tramaro1 said:
Wanted to get the opinion of the board. I know it is always best to go net free, however on a stock like Apple for example which continues to grow and pays a dividend. Do you go net free or keep letting it ride?

Do not confuse this thread with investing in the stock market. It is a TRADING thread, focused on short-term actions for people who are knowledgeable about options and other advanced strategies. I believe you are talking about a buy-and-hold position in AAPL, in which case, you should ignore this thread. Whether you take some gains or not depends more on these:

  • If you believe you are over-allocated in AAPL vs. the rest of your portfolio, sell some (net free is a simple approach of selling enough to cover your initial investment, and ride with the remainder - it's a sound approach which I and many others use, but there's no magic to it)
  • If you have other investments that you believe will outperform AAPL, sell some of it
  • If you think AAPL has run its' course, and worse times are ahead, sell all of it
  • Look at your tax situation before taking action as well. If it's in a tax-deferred account, capital gains don't apply. If it's in a taxable account, look at whether it is a short-term gain or long-term gain to determine tax treatment related to your other investment results this calendar year.

I have asked OA (or TexAgs) to change the title of this thread several times to "Active Traders" or something like that to avoid this type of issue. So far, no luck.

Hope that helps.
This is a great take and post. I struggle sometimes because I do sometimes actively trade, but not that often... more of a tweener between what is on here and long term investing... I made another thread on here a while back that has gotten some traction but not a ton.
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In reply to zag213004 • 11:37a, 12/3/20
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CrazyRichAggie said:
59 South said:
oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
Glad you finally joined the party OA! Let's roll! I'm still holding my full load of 12/18 87.5s from 2.50 entry a couple weeks ago.
In at $1.35


1.35 as well
Make that X 3
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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11:38a, 12/3/20
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Since the AMD train is getting loaded up...

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In reply to I bleed maroon • 11:39a, 12/3/20
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Thanks for the info. Yes this thread has a lot of short term trading, however there are discussions on long term stock plays ie NIO, MBIO, and now WWR as a few examples.
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In reply to Orlando Ayala Cant Read • 11:42a, 12/3/20
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:
Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:
Those of you still in on $WKHS , there was a story yesterday that USPS was delaying its contract announcement yet again and that sent the stock tumbling AH yesterday.

There's some dispute on whether the story is accurate but even if it is, what do you guys think of the Jan 15 $19 @ $3.90 call? Seems like a good deal on the surface.


Glad I did this, up 34% in one day but #SHBM
Nice trade. It could easily close the gap up at 24.57.
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In reply to tramaro1 • 11:42a, 12/3/20
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Thanks for the info. Yes this thread has a lot of short term trading, however there are discussions on long term stock plays ie NIO, MBIO, and now WWR as a few examples.
Anything that has the phrase "accumulation" is at the very least mid term and most are long term.
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
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In reply to FJ43 • 11:44a, 12/3/20
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can you fill me in on WWR? has he started accumulating yet or did he say 2021?
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In reply to gigemJTH12 • 11:46a, 12/3/20
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can you fill me in on WWR? has he started accumulating yet or did he say 2021?
Now for 2021. OA is making it one of his larger 2021 accumulation plays. I started yesterday and have been adding small amounts today. Next group I add will for me be to see if dips below $6.
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11:47a, 12/3/20
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PS team... I should take PTO every Thursday afternoon like I did today (gotta use or lose my insane 2020 time off accumulation with no Euro trips as previously planned).

Thanks for all the good trading banter today. Lockdown is officially over so I'm about to be out to get ready for a nice and very overdue Italian dinner out with my lady.
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In reply to gigemJTH12 • 11:47a, 12/3/20
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gigemJTH12 said:
can you fill me in on WWR? has he started accumulating yet or did he say 2021?

I believe he said if it drops below $5 then MA.
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 11:47a, 12/3/20
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oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
in these also, but from a higher entry, unfortunately. Dealing with MAE
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In reply to tramaro1 • 11:48a, 12/3/20
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tramaro1 said:
gigemJTH12 said:
can you fill me in on WWR? has he started accumulating yet or did he say 2021?

I believe he said if it drops below $5 then MA.


Part of his strategy was selling January $5 puts for about $1 giving you a potential net entry at $4.
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11:49a, 12/3/20
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what do you guys think about SFT? Poor man's CVNA.
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In reply to FJ43 • 11:52a, 12/3/20
FJ43 said:
zwhag2010 said:
CrazyRichAggie said:
59 South said:
oldarmy1 said:
Buying AMD $100 Dec 18 calls. It's going to hit $100 after this breather I'm pretty confident.
Glad you finally joined the party OA! Let's roll! I'm still holding my full load of 12/18 87.5s from 2.50 entry a couple weeks ago.
In at $1.35


1.35 as well
Make that X 3
I'm glad I jumped out yesterday for no loss. I am back in at 1.26
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11:55a, 12/3/20
COME ON F !!! Break $9.28 and get a move on for crying out loud. How many times are you going to try.
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11:58a, 12/3/20
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SNAP? forgive my laziness, what's our exit? going look up a chart now
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In reply to $30,000 Millionaire • 12:04p, 12/3/20
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what do you guys think about SFT? Poor man's CVNA.
Looking on a 10 Min it is still falling and hasn't taken back the trend yet so I would be curious if it hits that $8.24ish level and bounces back up. Big spike up and not sure it has settled yet but if it bounced or a flash there might be an entry?

Maybe $8.56ish could also be a support level. Just thinking out loud here.
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12:04p, 12/3/20
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$AAPL: is that a cup with handle on minute chart?

I'm learning to read these indicators so I could be completely off
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In reply to GtownRAB • 12:07p, 12/3/20
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GtownRAB said:
tramaro1 said:
gigemJTH12 said:
can you fill me in on WWR? has he started accumulating yet or did he say 2021?

I believe he said if it drops below $5 then MA.


Part of his strategy was selling January $5 puts for about $1 giving you a potential net entry at $4.
You can also sell January $7.5 puts that is likely to give you a net entry below $5. I just sold some for $2.67
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