***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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In reply to BayAg_14 • 1:28p, 6/14/24
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I'm out till Abreu is off this team. See yall whenever that happens. Peace!


I'm back!
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1:35p, 6/14/24
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Serious question: what would the Aggies' record have been the last two years with Jose Abreu as coach instead of Jimbo Fisher?

If you don't remember, it was:

  • 2022 5-7 overall, 2-6 conference
  • 2023 6-4 overall, 4-3 conference

I'd say at least 7-5 last year. No way Abreu loses at Miami like that.


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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:37p, 6/14/24
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Practically a home game for him
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:38p, 6/14/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Serious question: what would the Aggies' record have been the last two years with Jose Abreu as coach instead of Jimbo Fisher?

If you don't remember, it was:

  • 2022 5-7 overall, 2-6 conference
  • 2023 6-4 overall, 4-3 conference

I'd say at least 7-5 last year. No way Abreu loses at Miami like that.


How many more wins would we have if we let Jimbo play first base?
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In reply to astroaggie13 • 1:39p, 6/14/24
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Bonnettecj1 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
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Farmer1906 said:
Worse contract? Jimbo or Abreu?
Jimbo is getting paid more than twice than what Abreu is getting paid to go away. I'd say Jimbo's.
Yea but at least you got a home win over Alabama and an Orange bowl out of Jimbo.
I see your point, but Jimbo's is a lot more lasting. He's getting paid until like 2030. Abreu is off the books after next year.


Jimbo wasn't meeting expectations but he wasn't the worst coach in the league. Abreu was/is literally dog *****
You aren't incorrect here, but while Abreu was awful, his contract was not as penal as Jimbo's. Again, Abreu is off the books after next year. Jimbo is on the A&M payroll until 12/31/2031.

We are talking about guys being paid to do nothing. Abreu is getting paid next year. Jimbo is getting paid next year, then the year after, then the year after, then the year after, etc., etc.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:39p, 6/14/24
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Farmer1906 said:
Worse contract? Jimbo or Abreu?


Abreu.

Jimbo from 2018-2021 everybody agreed was worth it and had us going in the right direction. 2022-2023 is where it was awful.

Abreu wasn't good last year except for maybe 2 months

The jumbo EXTENSION was the bad move. But the original contract was fine
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1:40p, 6/14/24
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This probably will happen (as 2015 suggested)
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In reply to tjack16 • 1:41p, 6/14/24
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tjack16 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Worse contract? Jimbo or Abreu?


Abreu.

Jimbo from 2018-2021 everybody agreed was worth it and had us going in the right direction. 2022-2023 is where it was awful.

Abreu wasn't good last year except for maybe 2 months

Uh, go find this thread when we signed abreu. Everyone thought it was great then too.

Abreu at least served half is contract. Regardless of how bad. Jimbo got extended for 10 years….8 of which we'll be paying him to not coach…..
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In reply to htxag09 • 1:44p, 6/14/24
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htxag09 said:
tjack16 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Worse contract? Jimbo or Abreu?


Abreu.

Jimbo from 2018-2021 everybody agreed was worth it and had us going in the right direction. 2022-2023 is where it was awful.

Abreu wasn't good last year except for maybe 2 months

Uh, go find this thread when we signed abreu. Everyone thought it was great then too.

Abreu at least served half is contract. Regardless of how bad. Jimbo got extended for 10 years….8 of which we'll be paying him to not coach…..


Jimbo was only extended for 4 years.
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In reply to Marvin • 1:44p, 6/14/24
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Wonder if Crane learns a lesson from this. Hopefully he hires baseball people to do the baseball thinking.
If this is in regards to the initial signing and contract -- I disagree. Most here, self included, were ecstatic. He was best available and we spent big money at a position of need. I think the length of the contract was the only thing even remotely discussed as a potential negative.

If in regards to sticking with him far too long, when it was clear it wasn't working, then 100% full agree.

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1:44p, 6/14/24
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While I do not expect this to happen in a million years, if Captain Lou signs with someone for the league min while we pay his full salary and he's goes .296/396/.485 the rest of the season this place is going to implode faster than that build-a-submersible at the Titanic
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1:45p, 6/14/24
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I wonder just how bad Abreu's back was messed up last year. Those kind of injuries can ruin a career, especially at his age. Could be why he fell off so bad.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:46p, 6/14/24
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:47p, 6/14/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Hummel....IN!
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1:48p, 6/14/24
Dude went from AL MVP to being a bigger bust for the Astros than Kaz Matsui.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:49p, 6/14/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:
This year in AAA:
AB: 163
Games: 45
K's: 35
Walks: 33
BA: 0.301
OBP: 0.423
SLG: 0.509
OPS: 0.932
HR: 7
RBI: 31
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 1:49p, 6/14/24
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Mathguy64 said:
While I do not expect this to happen in a million years, if Captain Lou signs with someone for the league min while we pay his full salary and he's goes .296/396/.485 the rest of the season this place is going to implode faster than that build-a-submersible at the Titanic
I expect him to land somewhere from what I'm being told this afternoon. One team in particular is already reaching out.
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In reply to htxag09 • 1:50p, 6/14/24
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htxag09 said:
tjack16 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Worse contract? Jimbo or Abreu?


Abreu.

Jimbo from 2018-2021 everybody agreed was worth it and had us going in the right direction. 2022-2023 is where it was awful.

Abreu wasn't good last year except for maybe 2 months

Uh, go find this thread when we signed abreu. Everyone thought it was great then too.

Abreu at least served half is contract. Regardless of how bad. Jimbo got extended for 10 years….8 of which we'll be paying him to not coach…..


I thought he meant production during contract. In which case Jimbo was at least successful or considered a good hire for 4 of the 6 years he was here. Abreu was pretty much a disappointment from day 1
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 1:50p, 6/14/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
Mathguy64 said:
While I do not expect this to happen in a million years, if Captain Lou signs with someone for the league min while we pay his full salary and he's goes .296/396/.485 the rest of the season this place is going to implode faster than that build-a-submersible at the Titanic
I expect him to land somewhere from what I'm being told this afternoon. One team in particular is already reaching out.
So was he released (meaning he already cleared waivers) or was he DFA'd and still has to go through waivers?
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1:54p, 6/14/24
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WGAF about Jimbo?

What an awful thread derail
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In reply to RED AG 98 • 1:55p, 6/14/24
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RED AG 98 said:
Marvin said:
Wonder if Crane learns a lesson from this. Hopefully he hires baseball people to do the baseball thinking.
If this is in regards to the initial signing and contract -- I disagree. Most here, self included, were ecstatic. He was best available and we spent big money at a position of need. I think the length of the contract was the only thing even remotely discussed as a potential negative.

If in regards to sticking with him far too long, when it was clear it wasn't working, then 100% full agree.



Sure, and me, but there's a reason we aren't making those decisions!
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1:55p, 6/14/24
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Dana Brown talks at 3, Joe Espada at 4. Bagwell and Crane wisely ducking the media.
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In reply to cc10106 • 1:56p, 6/14/24
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cc10106 said:
Who will step up and take the role of Astros fans' whipping boy now that J. Abreu is done?


Montero
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htxag09 said:
So just a little over 2 hours from "we have a timeline" and "We are constantly talking about when to make the decision" to "Yeah, get rid of that bum".
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In reply to RED AG 98 • 2:01p, 6/14/24
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I don't remember if I posted it, but I didn't like dumping the money into a position I don't think needs to be a premium one for championship teams.

I was team use the money on JV.
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txags92 said:
htxag09 said:
So just a little over 2 hours from "we have a timeline" and "We are constantly talking about when to make the decision" to "Yeah, get rid of that bum".


What is Joe supposed to say? Were cutting his ass later. Don't say anything.
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In reply to Chrundle the Great • 2:02p, 6/14/24
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Chrundle the Great said:
I don't remember if I posted it, but I didn't like dumping the money into a position I don't think needs to be a premium one for championship teams.

I was team use the money on JV.


60 M was only half what it cost to sign JV.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:03p, 6/14/24
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Yeah, seriously. He said they had a timeline which was correct. It was always 40 ABs. And he probably didn't have permission to say anything beyond that. I don't see the problem lol
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2:04p, 6/14/24
For future generations to remember:
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In reply to cc10106 • 2:05p, 6/14/24
(or forget)
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:05p, 6/14/24
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Maybe I don't remember the timeline right, but I thought I remember getting abreu first and that sort of sinking the jv hope before we knew what his # was.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:07p, 6/14/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Dana Brown talks at 3, Joe Espada at 4. Bagwell and Crane wisely ducking the media.

Why would Jeff Bagwell talk to the media?

That's not his job and he never has done it.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 2:08p, 6/14/24
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He's done it but only when there was no GM yet
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In reply to Chrundle the Great • 2:08p, 6/14/24
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Chrundle the Great said:
Maybe I don't remember the timeline right, but I thought I remember getting abreu first and that sort of sinking the jv hope before we knew what his # was.


I think you're right but that doesn't change the fact that it took stupid amounts of money that JV isn't playing up to.
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