I heard ranger fans were chanting we want houston
Is this true?
Is this true?
annie88 said:If the Silver Boot is during the season, what is a postseason battle between the Astros and Rangers?
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) October 12, 2023
The Golden Lasso?
I think the 2021 ALCS is a very important one to watch/remember for our fans. After game 3 it was Armageddon and ends up we won in 6.All I do is Nguyen said:
Like I did for the ALDS here are all of the highlights of our previous ALCS runs, including the bad ones as well.
I hope I get to do one more of these posts
87 was almost entirely on the crappy bullpen. Nolan pitched awesome, but the GM had him on a ridiculously low pitch count and it frustrated the crap out of him. The Astros gave him no run support at all, and the bullpen failed to pick him up over and over again that season. That season of stellar pitching with a lopsidedly bad W-L is one of the weirdest statistical oddities I have ever seen in baseball.Farmer1906 said:I assumed he was just poking fun and trying to rile up others. It's a no-contest. Nolan was still good as a Ranger, but better as an Astro. You can maybe argue he was at his best in 1990, but I would put 87 against it.Diggity said:W-L is a pretty weak argument in general. Much more about the team than the pitcher.The Porkchop Express said:Nolan with the Astros:Diggity said:he broke a bunch of longevity records as a Ranger, but not sure how you're qualifying him as "only good' in Houston, when he had a lower ERA (over a longer period) while pitching for the Stros.The Porkchop Express said:
Nolan probably wouldn't do it. He was great as an Angel, only good as an Astro, and legendary as a Ranger. But he's also a rare gentleman who understands loyalty and wouldn't look like he's supporting one over the other.
Pudge played for the Astros about as long as Dwight Gooden did.
That said, I would definitely try to star power the **** out of them for the home games. Like offer Beyonce $1 million to the charity of her choice to come do it. Or JJ Watt since he just got his jersey retired. Or Hakeem. Lay off the Bagwells and Biggios and Mattress Mac's for a while.
And I certainly don't want this to be the case, but if Mary Lou Retton passes during the WS, you definitely get her kids out there to let her get embraced by the city that loved their mom so powerfully in the 80s.
1980: 11-10
1981 (strike) 11-5, 1.69 ERA - best season by far stat wise, pitched his 5th no-hitter.
1982: 16-12
1983: 14-9
1984: 12-11
1985: 10-12
1986: 12-8
1987: 8-16, with the bizarre leading the league in strikeouts and ERA
1988: 12-11, led the league in strikeouts
Nolan with the Rangers:
1989: 16-10, 301 K (led the league), started the all-star game
1990: 13-9, 232 K (led the league), pitched 6th no-hitter
1991: 12-6, 2.91 ERA, 203 K, pitched 7th no-hitter
Then he broke down. But those 3 years were more impactful than anything that he did with the Astros other than the 1981 year. He put the Rangers in the national spotlight, which I don't think they had ever been in before. He was a must-watch national phenomenon from 1989-1991. That was never true when he pitched for the Astros. He was the first $1 million player in MLB history, and in 9 years with the Astros he averaged 11.7 wins and 10.4 losses per year. Going 12-10 every year is only good. He was nothing like he had been with the Angels, although that was likely from innings burnout.
National spotlight was around those longevity records.
I agree he got a ton of buzz as a Ranger (and his longevity was incredible), but that doesn't mean he was a better pitcher at that point in his career.
edit...looks like Moses beat me to it.
HOU - 36.6 WAR, 3.13 ERA, 2.87 FIP, & 206 IP per season
ARL - 21.3 WAR, 3.43 ERA, 2.91 FIP, & 168 IP per season
tjack16 said:
That's basically how last year's WS was as well.
Split 1-1 at home and then destroyed in game 3 on the road to go down 1-2. Win next 3
Very true.tjack16 said:
That's basically how last year's WS was as well.
Split 1-1 at home and then destroyed in game 3 on the road to go down 1-2. Win next 3
Have the links handy? I remember watching them at the timeJDUB08AG said:tjack16 said:
That's basically how last year's WS was as well.
Split 1-1 at home and then destroyed in game 3 on the road to go down 1-2. Win next 3
I recently rewatched the Phillies post game shows after games 3 and 4. After game 3, they had basically already crowned themselves the champion. After game 4, they looked like their dogs had just been shot in front of them.
Texaggie7nine said:Boo. Exact opposite would be perfect.Quote:
Game 1 Sunday, 7:15 p.m. (FOX)
Game 2 Monday, 3:37 p.m. (FOX/FS1)
Buck Compton said:Have the links handy? I remember watching them at the timeJDUB08AG said:tjack16 said:
That's basically how last year's WS was as well.
Split 1-1 at home and then destroyed in game 3 on the road to go down 1-2. Win next 3
I recently rewatched the Phillies post game shows after games 3 and 4. After game 3, they had basically already crowned themselves the champion. After game 4, they looked like their dogs had just been shot in front of them.
You guys would have been on a window ledge of a tall building in 1986, when there was no way to know what was happening outside of TV, radio, being there.Mr.Bond said:Texaggie7nine said:Boo. Exact opposite would be perfect.Quote:
Game 1 Sunday, 7:15 p.m. (FOX)
Game 2 Monday, 3:37 p.m. (FOX/FS1)
337 pm on a workday for a LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES WHAT A ****IN JOKE MLB. FIX YOUR ****
Mr.Bond said:Texaggie7nine said:Boo. Exact opposite would be perfect.Quote:
Game 1 Sunday, 7:15 p.m. (FOX)
Game 2 Monday, 3:37 p.m. (FOX/FS1)
337 pm on a workday for a LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES WHAT A ****IN JOKE MLB. FIX YOUR ****
Ag_07 said:
This was a given since the Cowboys play on MNF
No way in hell they wanna go up against that with 1/2 the ALCS audience being in DFW.
I can live with late afternoon times but the 1 and 2 pm starts are what really suck
Panama Red said:Mr.Bond said:Texaggie7nine said:Boo. Exact opposite would be perfect.Quote:
Game 1 Sunday, 7:15 p.m. (FOX)
Game 2 Monday, 3:37 p.m. (FOX/FS1)
337 pm on a workday for a LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES WHAT A ****IN JOKE MLB. FIX YOUR ****
Going on 54 years of broadcasting league championship games on weekday afternoons.
Maybe this is the year they learn their lesson
Dodgers Wondering If They Should Have Spent More Time Training For Playoffs And Less Time Honoring Satanic Drag Nuns https://t.co/rfiTtO2EUD pic.twitter.com/DSnOiVZlKl
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 12, 2023
PM sent and like I said in the message I was hungover this morning (I wonder why) and got a bit *****ly. There's a reason my name is Dick besides the fact that my name is Richard. It's all good man.The Porkchop Express said:
I really appreciate your commitment to avoid a ban by telling me to F*** off without even actually typing the real **** but just using the asterisks to genuinely spell F***. That's some good ****ing posting. I sent you a PM to apologize, I meant it in jest.
I don't know a lot about the baseball gods but I'm pretty sure they were disgusted as well. Couldn't happen to a more deserving franchise of p*ssies.annie88 said:Dodgers Wondering If They Should Have Spent More Time Training For Playoffs And Less Time Honoring Satanic Drag Nuns https://t.co/rfiTtO2EUD pic.twitter.com/DSnOiVZlKl
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 12, 2023
Ag_07 said:
This was a given since the Cowboys play on MNF
No way in hell they wanna go up against that with 1/2 the ALCS audience being in DFW.
I can live with late afternoon times but the 1 and 2 pm starts are what really suck
Worked at home since early 2013 and it's made for many wasted afternoons between baseball and on Star Wars Celebration days when there's a new trailer drop.Wildmen06 said:
Do y'all really all have jobs that you can't leave early or just watch the game on your phone?
That was a good and they were very complimentary and no whining about calls or anything like that...just said Houston was the better team.tjack16 said:
Here's a good one
Prosperdick said:That was a good and they were very complimentary and no whining about calls or anything like that...just said Houston was the better team.tjack16 said:
Here's a good one
My mom let me stay home from school to watch those day games in 86.Big Cat `93 said:
I listened to game 6 versus the Mets on an assistant coach's radio in between plays during football practice in high school. Like practice didn't suck enough already.
Only thing they complained about was Maldy leaning into the pitch when they were busting him inside. But as they said, the catcher should notice those things like him standing almost on the plate and not call pitches that give him that opportunity unless they feel like giving up a base on a HBP.Prosperdick said:That was a good and they were very complimentary and no whining about calls or anything like that...just said Houston was the better team.tjack16 said:
Here's a good one
Farmer1906 said:
All-Time Astros fWAR Leaders
Position Players
1. Bagwell - 80.2
2. Biggio - 65.8
3. Altuve - 52.6 (jumped Berkman this year)
4. Berkman - 51.4
5. Cruz - 47.8
6. Cedeno - 46.6
7. Wynn - 38.7
8. Bregman - 35.2 (should get Wynn in 2024)
9. Morgan - 29.3
10. Doran - 27.5
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18. Alvarez - 18.6 (#1 in WAR/games played)
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21. Tucker - 16.3 (He has a chance to challenge #13 Springer @ 26.2 with 2 more good seasons)
Pitchers
1. Oswalt - 46.3
2. Ryan - 36.6
3. Richard - 32.4
4. Dieker - 31.6
5. Reynolds - 31.2
6. Scott - 26.2
7. Wilson - 26.1
8. Verlander - 21.5 (passed Niekro this year, shot at top 6 before his deal is up)
9. Niekro - 21.0
10. Rodriguez - 18.7
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18. McCullers - 14.8
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23. Valdez - 12.7 (if he matches his last 2 seasons, he'll crack the top 10)
Relief Pitchers
1. Wagner - 13.4
2. Smith - 9.7
3. Lidge - 9.6
4. Dotel - 8.6
5. Pressly - 8.1 (jumped Andersen, assuming he vests next year he could end up #2)
6. Andersen - 7.1
7. Samibto - 6.8
8. Harris - 5.2
9. Giles - 3.9
10. Wheler - 3.5
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15. Abreu - 3.0 (feels like WAR is sleeping on him, without extending him he'll be 5-10 range)
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20. Neris - 2.5 (one behind the most valuable relief pitcher in Astros history... Josh Fields)