***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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5:49p, 9/25/23
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Holy ****
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6:11p, 9/25/23
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Who is more likely to get back that one solo shot JV always gives up in the 1st or 2nd - Maldy or Diaz. That's what they need to ask Justin.

Hoping tonight for Cy Young JV and October Altuve Tucker & Yordan!
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 6:13p, 9/25/23
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Mathguy64 said:
Bregman's issue isn't a juiced ball. He's no longer quick to the middle or middle in pitch.

Some of that is he's rarely pitched middle or middle in because he's so on top of the plate no one throws it there. It's all away away away and he's either popping it up, hitting it to the big part of the park because he can't pull it or he's pulling it into a grounder.

And because he's so on top of the plate he's susceptible to getting bad calls away when the ump is fooled.
take out your 2nd sentence and I agree. He still gets to the inside pitches when it is thrown. But you're correct, they aren't. When he goes with the away pitch as he should "y'all" complain (people in general not you specifically) that he isn't pulling the ball enough
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6:14p, 9/25/23
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Just landed at the Austin airport to see that lineup. Guess Dusty isn't interested in putting maximum pressure on the opponent.

Don't know why I thought it would be different than at any other point this year
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:25p, 9/25/23
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tjack16 said:
I just can't get over how insane Bregman's 2018-2019 was. It had to be juiced balls. Mainly 2019 with 41 HR

I think he's still a very solid player worth about 20M per year.

What's crazy is this month his batting average has dropped over 10 points from .272 to .261 but his on base has stayed pretty much the same going from .365 to .364
I think the market will say otherwise.

For the 2022 Offseason

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The per-WAR average of the top 25 position players is also similar to what pitchers earned, coming in at $5,380,791.93.
If Brgman is a 4-5 WAR player then he's probably worth 22-27 M per year on the open market.


Someone will give that to him. It shouldn't be us.
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6:25p, 9/25/23
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We'll see how true this is...
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In reply to linkdude • 6:26p, 9/25/23
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So I guess Uncle Mike told him he could play yesterday.
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6:27p, 9/25/23
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:27p, 9/25/23
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Woof
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6:28p, 9/25/23
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Lol Diaz and Brantley available and sitting on bench in must win, backs against wall, blah blah game.

Dusty can't be gone fast enough
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:30p, 9/25/23
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Whelp, we are ****ed.

Dusty going to prove he's a moron on the way out the door at least.
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6:34p, 9/25/23
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6:34p, 9/25/23
Hopefully we can at least get a fairly called game behind the plate tonight.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:35p, 9/25/23
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Puke.
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6:36p, 9/25/23
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Our kryptonite is no name/washed up guys with 5.00+ ERAs so maybe tonight we can light Castillo up
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:36p, 9/25/23
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Absolute lunacy
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:48p, 9/25/23
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Farmer1906 said:




If only Captain Lou and Maldy were 36.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:49p, 9/25/23
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Farmer1906 said:




This would have never happened under Luhnow or Click.
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6:52p, 9/25/23
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I just realized how bad that really is, since Brantley only has a dozen games or so.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:53p, 9/25/23
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tjack16 said:
I just can't get over how insane Bregman's 2018-2019 was. It had to be juiced balls. Mainly 2019 with 41 HR

I think he's still a very solid player worth about 20M per year.

What's crazy is this month his batting average has dropped over 10 points from .272 to .261 but his on base has stayed pretty much the same going from .365 to .364
I think the market will say otherwise.

For the 2022 Offseason

Quote:
The per-WAR average of the top 25 position players is also similar to what pitchers earned, coming in at $5,380,791.93.
If Brgman is a 4-5 WAR player then he's probably worth 22-27 M per year on the open market.


I thought it was $8,000,000/war in free agency?
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In reply to OKCAg2002 • 6:54p, 9/25/23
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OKCAg2002 said:
I just don't even care anymore. Our manager can't see the obvious. What's new?


This. Dusty and management don't seem to care, so I don't either. If we squeak into the playoffs, great. But this season has been an absolute beating and might signal the end of the Golden Era.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:00p, 9/25/23
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Farmer1906 said:


hate to give credit to the preseason media pundits...

but one of their cautions about the 2023 Astros...

relying on several or too many old guys
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:01p, 9/25/23
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Farmer1906 said:


this graphic does not provide comfort
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In reply to W • 7:06p, 9/25/23
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Nothing about anything lately has provided any comfort.

I'm seriously to the point whatever...Fck it...what happens happens.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:06p, 9/25/23
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If only the Astros had other younger options that were better hitters than their old guys…sad that Dusty is forced to play Maldy every day because he doesn't have anybody better…
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In reply to Dies Irae • 7:09p, 9/25/23
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Dies Irae said:
Farmer1906 said:
tjack16 said:
I just can't get over how insane Bregman's 2018-2019 was. It had to be juiced balls. Mainly 2019 with 41 HR

I think he's still a very solid player worth about 20M per year.

What's crazy is this month his batting average has dropped over 10 points from .272 to .261 but his on base has stayed pretty much the same going from .365 to .364
I think the market will say otherwise.

For the 2022 Offseason

Quote:
The per-WAR average of the top 25 position players is also similar to what pitchers earned, coming in at $5,380,791.93.
If Brgman is a 4-5 WAR player then he's probably worth 22-27 M per year on the open market.


I thought it was $8,000,000/war in free agency?


It's going to depend on position (closers get paid at a higher clip) and it's not always the same each year.
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In reply to Kashchei • 7:09p, 9/25/23
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Kashchei said:
OKCAg2002 said:
I just don't even care anymore. Our manager can't see the obvious. What's new?


This. Dusty and management don't seem to care, so I don't either. If we squeak into the playoffs, great. But this season has been an absolute beating and might signal the end of the Golden Era.

I'll reserve judgment on the era until we see next year with, hopefully, some key contributors on the roster and healthy from the start, as well as a manager who knows up from down.

But there's no doubt this year is a waste in the midst of this run and, if they miss the playoffs as defending champs with the same roster, a complete failure.
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7:18p, 9/25/23
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And the thing is this complete implosion is everyone's fault.

It's Crane for not hiring a GM quick enough
It's the FO for just not optioning all of Bakers favorites
It's Dusty for the shlt lineups
It's the players for sucking down the stretch

A collapse like this isn't at the feet of one person.
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In reply to W • 7:24p, 9/25/23
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Main problem is old guy manager not playing the better younger players he has available.
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In reply to BadAggie • 7:57p, 9/25/23
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BadAggie said:
Main problem is old guy manager not playing the better younger players he has available.

They should have been able to beat OAK and KC with any combo of 9 players off this roster.

Diaz not getting ABs doesn't excuse Bregman and Tucker hitting .151 and .200 in their last 15 games or Press blowing saves or Framber giving up 6 over 5.1 to the worst team in MLB.

Like I said...It's not one person
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8:25p, 9/25/23
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Holding out one last hope. Come on Stros
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8:29p, 9/25/23
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I BELIEVE! (In the road Astros)

6-0 week let's go
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8:33p, 9/25/23
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My favorite series' of the season are west coast games that start after the kids and wife are in bed. Positive vibes. Beers are cold and I'm ready for the headache that comes in the morning
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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8:37p, 9/25/23
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Need more of this tonight JV
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 8:38p, 9/25/23
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bearkatag15 said:


Need more of this tonight JV




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