I just can't believe our season is potentially going to end because we can't beat the A's and Royals.

It just seems unfathomable but that's where we stand.

You are now in a MUST WIN series against a 100 loss team with zero to play for

**** framber and jv getting to decide who catches them

Maybe if they were world beaters every game….but right now they suck…and dusty, instead of being the adult in the room and doing the job he is paid to do, continues to cater to them even though all logic dictates to start diaz all the time


**** dusty and **** crane for putting another year of craptastic management on this team

tjack16 said:

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I just can't believe our season is potentially going to end because we can't beat the A's and Royals.

It just seems unfathomable but that's where we stand.

You are now in a MUST WIN series against a 100 loss team with zero to play for

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I believe it was '03 win the Breeers swept us at home when all we had to do was win 2 game to make the playoffs. I never would have thought id see a worse manager than Jimy Williams to manage the Astros…I was wrong.

Click got Diaz and Maton for Myles Straw.

Also put together a roster that was so good that not even Dusty could stop it from winning a World Series.

Wasn't good enough for Crane, who thought himself wiser on baseball matters.

Now his team is being run into the ground by one of the worst managerial performances I've seen.

Same players won a championship last season. Lack of talent isn't the excuse.

This team is no longer analytically managed in any shape or form. It's all old time gut decisions and shuffling the lineup an absurd number of times.

It was a must win tonight and Maldy and Framber got donkey punched in the 1st.

We had to win to keep pace with the other team that won. And we went down without our best hitters and with a crippled lineup that isn't designed to maximize its chances. All because an 80 year old fossil who played in the 70s thinks that way of playing is best.

BadAggie said:

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Click got Diaz and Maton for Myles Straw.

Also put together a roster that was so good that not even Dusty could stop it from winning a World Series.

Wasn't good enough for Crane, who thought himself wiser on baseball matters.

Now his team is being run into the ground by one of the worst managerial performances I've seen.

Same players won a championship last season. Lack of talent isn't the excuse.

This team is no longer analytically managed in any shape or form. It's all old time gut decisions and shuffling the lineup an absurd number of times.

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Gut decisions

Playing to favorites based on personality or "veteran" status rather than objectively on performance

Managing the team as if it were tee ball where everybody get to play

Deciding to position players in the lineup that (arguably) play to individual strengths rather than what's best for the team

Holding a grudge against the media for calling out his BS lineups and doubling down on them

Never challenging critical questionable calls early in the game because he seemingly wants to save them for later

Probably doesn't play Diaz enough because we got rid of his BFF Straw for him.

Can't think of a more ignorant, arrogant, and destructive manager in Astros history. Last year he wasn't nearly this bad, but I guess he didn't really have as many positional decisions to screw up either.

this is an unbelievable collapse

reminds of the old Oilers teams

but at least they got to the playoffs first

68 - Rangers
68 - Blue Jays
69 - Astros
69 - Mariners

margin is almost gone

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We need the Rangers to sweep the Ms

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yep, since the Rangers won game 1...

they need to go ahead and win all three

5-8 since this game

the Astros are 8-11 in September

easily on track to be the worst month of the season

We have the right GM, need to eventually replace some key cogs who will be expensive to retain.

Need a manager and coaches more attuned to analytics and smart baseball. Also frankly need a different attitude. Need a youngish manager ready to make his mark, compete and win.

Dusty has set such a lackadaisical entitled tone, complete with days off and a message that not all games matter.

Crane needs to be more hands off. Surely he's self aware enough to realize there's plenty he doesn't know and should hire the right people to handle.

If he's the right GM he better take away Dusty's pen tomorrow

That's the safer play. Limping into the WC probably doesn't bode well for October. I think we need the division to stand a real chance.

Also continuing a trend of squeezing extra outs from starters leading to add on runs. Feels like we must be the worst playoff team wrt inherited runners.

BoxingAg84 said:

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John McClain has thrown in the towel.

The Astros were tremendous over the last six seasons. So much fun to watch as they reached the ALCS every year and the WS 4 times, including 2 titles. Thanks for the memories. They were glorious!

— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) September 23, 2023

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Lol F that ccksvcker now is the time to go all in on the Astros.

"We're still the Houston Astros. We're still the champs and we're going to continue to battle." 👊#Ready2Reign pic.twitter.com/Egih8Sq1Mb

— AT&T SportsNet™ | SW (@ATTSportsNetSW) September 23, 2023

Well… actions speak louder than words. They've been talking about it for 2 weeks now and we've yet to see the fight.

He did this to trea Turner when he was a rookie as he is doing Diaz straight shame. 157 games for Espinosa and only 73 for trea Turner. pic.twitter.com/HrGw3v6xrg

— Jack apple (@Jackapp92122906) September 23, 2023

From Dusty's time at the nationals…

Boiling Denim said:

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Alvarez said he felt something in his right (throwing) elbow about while swinging the bat 10 days ago, which is why he can’t play left field now.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 23, 2023

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Seriously wtf is up with Yordan? He cannot go two days without hurting his hand in a "freak door opening accident" or tweaking something in his shoulder, or his oblique?