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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

the Mariners are 22-10 since July 1st

and they have been great against very bad teams

10-0 vs. the A's and Rockies (from series in April & May)

Padres trade for 77 year old Rich Hill and down 6-0 to the Dodgers after top of 2nd.

Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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Who are the top 3? Cuz Yordan should DH most of the time.

Does anyone have the hernadez ump scorecard ?

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Does anyone have the hernadez ump scorecard ?

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9am tomorrow

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So, Jon Singleton may be coming soon. More on that, J.P. France's future (in the rotation) and Jeremy Peña's offensive struggles - https://t.co/h3g6GzUr4N

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) August 6, 2023

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Do it.

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I didn't know much about Singleton so I just looked him up. He was a prospect the Astros got for trading Hunter Pence in 2011. Probably everyone here knows that, but wow.

Is Jon Singleton a better defensive 1B than Abreu?

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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Who are the top 3? Cuz Yordan should DH most of the time.

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No he shouldn't

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Is he a better defender than Chas in LF when Meyers plays CF?

In the playoffs, I'd DH Yordan with Chas in LF and Meyers in CF since they'd take Yordan out for a defensive replacement and I wouldn't want to lose Yordan batting in case the other team came back to tie or take the lead.

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redline248 said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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Who are the top 3? Cuz Yordan should DH most of the time.

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No he shouldn't

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Is he a better defender than Chas in LF when Meyers plays CF?

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But it's not that simple. Yordan is probably the 4th best defensive OF. But we don't just okay defensive specialists at every position.

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I get it on a day like today when Tucker isn't playing OF. Which is why I said "most of the time." Everyone likes to point out the splits when Yordan plays in the field, but it's not like he becomes a less dangerous hitter when he plays DH. So why wouldn't you want the 3 best defenders in the OF most of the time?

Teams sure have a funny way of showing they actually want to win a wild-card berth since the trade deadline:#Dbacks lose 6 in a row.#Reds lose 6 in a row.#Angels lose 6 in a row.#Marlins lose 4 in a row.#Redsox lose 4 in a row#SFGiants lose 2 in a row to Oakland.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) August 6, 2023

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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Who are the top 3? Cuz Yordan should DH most of the time.

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No he shouldn't

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Is he a better defender than Chas in LF when Meyers plays CF?

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More so that it isn't a solely defensive situation. He hits like 30-40 points higher when playing LF. I want the best version of him whenever possible.

I do agree defense matters more in the playoffs so decisions need to be made, but regular season he needs to be in left more than DH

Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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I'm good with that too. Just was thinking how the bullpen will need to be bolstered next year. But yeah, always a little easier to find a bullpen arm than 4th OFer.

I do like Jake as that option.

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In the playoffs, I'd DH Yordan with Chas in LF and Meyers in CF since they'd take Yordan out for a defensive replacement and I wouldn't want to lose Yordan batting in case the other team came back to tie or take the lead.

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Then Diaz sits. More important for Diaz to DH when not catching.

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redline248 said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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redline248 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Maroon&Fight said:

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Can we appreciate Jake Meyers a little bit more? Not many MLB players have a 6 RBI game in their career…absolutely needed that today from an unexpected contributor

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After today's game he's probably about a league average player with elite CF defense. He's second to Julio in OAA in way fewer attempts. He might end up a 2.5-3 WAR player being a part time OFer.

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Astros might be able to use him in a trade for a reliever in the offseason.

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Or keep him as the 4th OFer and defensive replacement.

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Who are the top 3? Cuz Yordan should DH most of the time.

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No he shouldn't

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Is he a better defender than Chas in LF when Meyers plays CF?

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But it's not that simple. Yordan is probably the 4th best defensive OF. But we don't just okay defensive specialists at every position.

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I get it on a day like today when Tucker isn't playing OF. Which is why I said "most of the time." Everyone likes to point out the splits when Yordan plays in the field, but it's not like he becomes a less dangerous hitter when he plays DH. So why wouldn't you want the 3 best defenders in the OF most of the time?

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Because the splits are that much different. He's a really good hitter as DH. He's as bonafide MVP when playing LF.

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If he were to carry his 2023 LF production only for his entire career, he'd be the best player that ever lived.

If he carried just his 2023 DH production for his entire career. He'd still be 1st ballot Hall of Fame. His OPS (.960) ranks 6th in all of baseball this year, and his wRC+ (162) ranks 4th. Obviously, it's my opinion and I know many disagree, but that's elite and good enough, while putting a better defender on the field.

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TRM said:

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In the playoffs, I'd DH Yordan with Chas in LF and Meyers in CF since they'd take Yordan out for a defensive replacement and I wouldn't want to lose Yordan batting in case the other team came back to tie or take the lead.

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Then Diaz sits. More important for Diaz to DH when not catching.

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Well, I'd pray Diaz catches, but we know the outcome of that...

Ideally, the playoff lineup would look something like this.

Altuve (2B)
Bregman (3B)
Alvarez (LF)
Tucker (RF)
Diaz (C)
McCormick (CF)
Abreu (1B)
Singleton (DH)
Pena (SS)

This of course assumes Jon Singleton rakes when he is called up and adds more power to our lineup. If Singleton doesn't rake, just replace him with Meyers and swap out Alvarez to DH while shuffling McCormick to LF.

Obviously, Maldy is going to play so this lineup of death is for some reason not realistic with Dusty...so that's always going to be a lineup liability.

Angel is just cashing checks

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Angel is just cashing checks

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From who?