Bulldog73 said:
we weren't willing to pay him what he's making, but now we'll pay that plus whatever we trade to get him.
We would be getting him for much less
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We would be getting him for much less
Not if the Mets send us the cash to cover it. Critical piece of the deal, potentiallyQuote:
but now we'll pay that plus whatever we trade to get him
c'mon Dana...pull the plug
Dusty on Yainer Diaz: "Like Dana said, he's the future. It's just sometimes you got to prepare them in the present for the future... Everybody's looking for the new right now & just push the old out of there. That's the way of the world but that's the way that's wrong, I think." https://t.co/OLV30GPlcB
— Danielle Lerner (@danielle_lerner) July 30, 2023
Your old ass could use some pushing
Follow up question should have been "The flexibility provided by Salazar covers more than just today, right?"
edit: OMG I just looked and today TB isn't even throwing a lefty
edit: OMG I just looked and today TB isn't even throwing a lefty
I find that hilarious. I know i"m the rare dusty fan on here, but that is a classic manager read between the lines "go f8ck yourself" comment.linkdude said:Asked if the Astros have considered going back to carrying three catchers to give him some flexibility to play Yainer Diaz and Martín Maldonado together, Dusty Baker said "Yainer has trouble with lefties. Everybody trying to help me manage, I don't really need it, thank you."
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 30, 2023
If we were willing to pay that a trade would have been done. We clearly aren't. This is an opportunity to get him at a 50% markdown.
What does it even mean to say Yainer has trouble with lefties as some type of argument? I mean Maldy is terrible against everyone.
rosco511 said:
What does it even mean to say Yainer has trouble with lefties as some type of argument? I mean Maldy is terrible against everyone.
Someone also tweeted that he used the "day game after night game" argument. Between this and him randomly using HIPAA to deflect injury stuff, he just makes crap up to try and move on.
So I guess that quote by Dana means no JV?
EastCoastAgNc said:Dusty on Yainer Diaz: "Like Dana said, he's the future. It's just sometimes you got to prepare them in the present for the future... Everybody's looking for the new right now & just push the old out of there. That's the way of the world but that's the way that's wrong, I think." https://t.co/OLV30GPlcB
— Danielle Lerner (@danielle_lerner) July 30, 2023
Your old ass could use some pushing
Did he really use the ageism excuse for why he starts Maldy??
My god....I cannot wait for both Dusty and Maldy to be gone after this season.
A big part of the reason our record is what it is is the "olds" not performing at all, both behind the plate and when constructing lineups
Ohhhhh, you got a plan Dusty?EastCoastAgNc said:When asked about Diaz not playing, Dusty said: "I already had it planned. Meyers had a big day, too. He had three hits (Saturday) and he's not in there. You've just got to be careful of changing my plan because of the day. That was already sort of programmed..."
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) July 30, 2023
Maybe instead of pre-planning days off… go off of if they NEED a day off based on play/being tired
W said:
regarding JV...
Crane is a tough spot with the payroll.
in the last 2 months, Bregman has played like the best third baseman in the American League.
like someone you want to (make an offer to) stick around
payroll is getting tight for 2024 & 2025
I don't see a way we keep Bregman, without sacrificing too many other pieces. I think he's going to want 30+/year and he hasn't played like that of late
tjack16 said:
So I guess that quote by Dana means no JV?
Or it's gm speak trying to get the Mets to pay more of that awful contract
EastCoastAgNc said:Dana Brown GM #Astros just told us they are not presently in the market for a starting pitcher instead they are focusing on the back end of their bullpen and a left-handed bat. BUT priority is PEN but that could shift at the deadline and could end up with a starter and put…
— Jim Bowden⚾️🏈 (@JimBowdenGM) July 30, 2023
GET A STARTER DANA
My confidence level is pretty low for the rest of the season if we don't get a starter, and Dusty continues to be Dusty.
Our SP is decent but if not for JP's magical performance wouldn't be that noteworthy, and it really requires a more potent offense than last year. We need to play our best hitters most day of the week. And dusty won't allow it.
I swear it's like Dusty sat at his desk at the start of the season and made lineups for all 162 games and makes adjustments if injuries happen.
"It was planned that way" like dude it's called IMPROVISE ADAPT OVERCOME
"It was planned that way" like dude it's called IMPROVISE ADAPT OVERCOME
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
All I do is Nguyen said:
I swear it's like Dusty sat at his desk at the start of the season and made lineups for all 162 games and makes adjustments if injuries happen.
"It was planned that way" like dude it's called IMPROVISE ADAPT OVERCOME
The proper question is - why is it planned for Diaz to not play catcher at least 50% of the time with Maldy?
Even a 50:50 split is better than what we have right now. Diaz only starts when Brown does. It's disgusting.
Yeah. Can we please trade Jake Meyers and star Chas everyday
Dusty: ' I'm the manager and can't change the lineup.'
Good talk.
Good talk.
time to wildly speculate!#Astros #4 prospect Ryan Clifford isn’t in the lineup https://t.co/I5eKYJrJVk
— Cozy Ŧ 🌵 (@sad_cozy) July 30, 2023
AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:Dana Brown GM #Astros just told us they are not presently in the market for a starting pitcher instead they are focusing on the back end of their bullpen and a left-handed bat. BUT priority is PEN but that could shift at the deadline and could end up with a starter and put…
— Jim Bowden⚾️🏈 (@JimBowdenGM) July 30, 2023
GET A STARTER DANA
My confidence level is pretty low for the rest of the season if we don't get a starter, and Dusty continues to be Dusty.
Our SP is decent but if not for JP's magical performance wouldn't be that noteworthy, and it really requires a more potent offense than last year. We need to play our best hitters most day of the week. And dusty won't allow it.
Me too, I think the bullpen is serviceable with the addition of Graveman. Maton, Neris, Graveman, Abreu, Pressly, all guys you feel reasonably comfortable turning to in high leverage. Medium leverage you cringe but can throw out Martinez and Stanek, book is still out on Mushinski, then you have Montero for human torch work.
I feel pretty good about Framber/Javier/Brown/France but need to rotate Bielak to long relief and get that 5 SP
linkdude said:time to wildly speculate!#Astros #4 prospect Ryan Clifford isn’t in the lineup https://t.co/I5eKYJrJVk
— Cozy Ŧ 🌵 (@sad_cozy) July 30, 2023
Hmmm.
linkdude said:time to wildly speculate!#Astros #4 prospect Ryan Clifford isn’t in the lineup https://t.co/I5eKYJrJVk
— Cozy Ŧ 🌵 (@sad_cozy) July 30, 2023
What Dana tells the media is completely different from what's actually happening behind the scenes.
Clifford is a no deal imo. He is going to be good
Aren't they throwing an opener today? I have no idea who their long inning guy today is though.redline248 said:
Follow up question should have been "The flexibility provided by Salazar covers more than just today, right?"
edit: OMG I just looked and today TB isn't even throwing a lefty
Ags #1 said:
Clifford is a no deal imo. He is going to be good
I guess it depends who we are getting
How are we prioritizing pen over starter? I don't understand the organizations lack of desire for a long relief guy. It's like it's against their philosophy
Baker is a dbag who doesn't think he can be questioned. Still stand by stance on chas…he has been making decisions out of spite on him for 3 years and doesn't want to be second guessed
Top 10 hitters in xSLG:
— Aidan Resnick (@AidanResnick) July 30, 2023
1. AL HR record, $360 million
2. Best player ever
3. $325 million
4. Runaway NL MVP favorite
5. Higher career wRC+ than Ty Cobb
6. 2020 NL MVP, Future HOF
7. WAR leader among catchers
8. Backup catcher
9. 6x All-Star
10. $365 million, Future HOF pic.twitter.com/xNSyGEoec2
While I get the concern during the season, come playoffs they have long relief and way more buckets than any other team out there.mAgnoliAg said:
How are we prioritizing pen over starter? I don't understand the organizations lack of desire for a long relief guy. It's like it's against their philosophy
Framber
CJ
Brown
Urquidy
France
Blanco
Possible starter via trade
Even if they don't add a starter you are only using at most 4 starters in a playoff series. There are two guys, possibly 3 that will end up in the pen. Urquidy and Blanco are my guess. That's more than enough long relief.
Mathguy64 said:While I get the concern during the season, come playoffs they have long relief and way more buckets than any other team out there.mAgnoliAg said:
How are we prioritizing pen over starter? I don't understand the organizations lack of desire for a long relief guy. It's like it's against their philosophy
Framber
CJ
Brown
Urquidy
France
Blanco
Possible starter via trade
Even if they don't add a starter you are only using at most 4 starters in a playoff series. There are two guys, possibly 3 that will end up in the pen. Urquidy and Blanco are my guess. That's more than enough long relief.
But in the process of attempting to get to the playoffs we are wearing out our hood bullpen guys.
I bet we can find many examples of Maldy catching a day game after a night gameEastCoastAgNc said:rosco511 said:
What does it even mean to say Yainer has trouble with lefties as some type of argument? I mean Maldy is terrible against everyone.
Someone also tweeted that he used the "day game after night game" argument. Between this and him randomly using HIPAA to deflect injury stuff, he just makes crap up to try and move on.
linkdude said:Asked if the Astros have considered going back to carrying three catchers to give him some flexibility to play Yainer Diaz and Martín Maldonado together, Dusty Baker said "Yainer has trouble with lefties. Everybody trying to help me manage, I don't really need it, thank you."
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 30, 2023
Bet he told Dana Brown the same thing.
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