Mathguy64 said:They are in no man's land. Not bad enough to have to get something for him and not good enough to compete.W said:
Angels (50-48) win again --- not trading Ohtani yet
Really hope the Angels don't make a trade,
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Really hope the Angels don't make a trade,
Wabs said:Mathguy64 said:They are in no man's land. Not bad enough to have to get something for him and not good enough to compete.W said:
Angels (50-48) win again --- not trading Ohtani yet
Really hope the Angels don't make a trade,
Same. A trade only benefits our potential opponents. Plus it helps restock the Angels farm.
How was the show? Looking forward to seeing it.Beau Holder said:
Got out of Oppenheimer in time to see Tuck's last homer and Pressly's 100th save. 10/10 night all around.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
All I do is Nguyen said:
Saw Oppenheimer last night also. Was a FANTASTIC movie
Thanks for the rec
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
I just hope if they make a trade the team that gets him has to sell the farm and the future...I'm not worried about the Angels doing anything with the talent they acquire, heck, they've had two superstars for how long with absolutely NOTHING to show for it.Farmer1906 said:Wabs said:Mathguy64 said:They are in no man's land. Not bad enough to have to get something for him and not good enough to compete.W said:
Angels (50-48) win again --- not trading Ohtani yet
Really hope the Angels don't make a trade,
Same. A trade only benefits our potential opponents. Plus it helps restock the Angels farm.
Yes, best case scenario is they keep Ohtani with the futile belief they can make a run this season.
Marvin said:How was the show? Looking forward to seeing it.Beau Holder said:
Got out of Oppenheimer in time to see Tuck's last homer and Pressly's 100th save. 10/10 night all around.
I loved it. I'm a 55 yr old guy and I saw it in an IMAX theater. I would like to see it again in a smaller theater, sitting in the back, a little quieter and a way to kinda catch the whole screen a little better.
Sources: The Giants are among the teams evaluating Justin Verlander as a trade deadline candidate, should he become willing to waive his no-trade clause. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) July 22, 2023
Can't remember if I mentioned here or not but the Astros are among those teams that have inquired
JV obviously needs a chance of scenery. Maybe something more familiar
Some perspective on Yordan.
Yordan is the third-youngest guy in the lineup https://t.co/SlYcTRCUWR
— Tyler Stafford (@tylercstafford) July 22, 2023
Marvin said:How was the show? Looking forward to seeing it.Beau Holder said:
Got out of Oppenheimer in time to see Tuck's last homer and Pressly's 100th save. 10/10 night all around.
Unbelievable and worth the long wait from the moment I saw the first trailer.
czechy91 said:
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Thank you for the heads up. Grabbed a gold Altuve jersey this morning. $75 for jerseys with names on them, $60 for blank ones.
Alright here we go fellas… some new scoop. Again, this is just what I'm hearing so don't blast me or anything.
I talked to one source last night (the same who told me that there's a "less than 1% chance Tucker re-signs" during spring training). He said he still believes the chances are the same and that nothing has changed.
I asked my other source about that and he said that's probably true but if Dana Brown can make good moves and leave a good impression on Crane, there's an outside chance Dana could be able to convince Crane to open up the checkbook and give him a long contract. Tucker wants a lot of years and Crane won't go over 5. That's just his thing. I asked this source about the sour grapes involved and he said money talks. Which is true.
My takeaway is it's very unlikely but not entirely impossible either. Definitely not getting my hopes up.
I talked to one source last night (the same who told me that there's a "less than 1% chance Tucker re-signs" during spring training). He said he still believes the chances are the same and that nothing has changed.
I asked my other source about that and he said that's probably true but if Dana Brown can make good moves and leave a good impression on Crane, there's an outside chance Dana could be able to convince Crane to open up the checkbook and give him a long contract. Tucker wants a lot of years and Crane won't go over 5. That's just his thing. I asked this source about the sour grapes involved and he said money talks. Which is true.
My takeaway is it's very unlikely but not entirely impossible either. Definitely not getting my hopes up.
texasaggie2015 said:Sources: The Giants are among the teams evaluating Justin Verlander as a trade deadline candidate, should he become willing to waive his no-trade clause. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) July 22, 2023
Can't remember if I mentioned here or not but the Astros are among those teams that have inquired
Man I hope he goes to an NL team that makes it to the World Series. I'd love a free game in the fall classic
Got to get there first and in that regard he's quite helpful. I also wonder if missing the first month of the season helps him in the playoffs. Pitching 30+ times then multiple playoff rounds has to be a physical and mental grind.
texasaggie2015 said:
Alright here we go fellas… some new scoop. Again, this is just what I'm hearing so don't blast me or anything.
I talked to one source last night (the same who told me that there's a "less than 1% chance Tucker re-signs" during spring training). He said he still believes the chances are the same and that nothing has changed.
I asked my other source about that and he said that's probably true but if Dana Brown can make good moves and leave a good impression on Crane, there's an outside chance Dana could be able to convince Crane to open up the checkbook and give him a long contract. Tucker wants a lot of years and Crane won't go over 5. That's just his thing. I asked this source about the sour grapes involved and he said money talks. Which is true.
My takeaway is it's very unlikely but not entirely impossible either. Definitely not getting my hopes up.
So you're saying there's a chance
texasaggie2015 said:
Alright here we go fellas… some new scoop. Again, this is just what I'm hearing so don't blast me or anything.
I talked to one source last night (the same who told me that there's a "less than 1% chance Tucker re-signs" during spring training). He said he still believes the chances are the same and that nothing has changed.
I asked my other source about that and he said that's probably true but if Dana Brown can make good moves and leave a good impression on Crane, there's an outside chance Dana could be able to convince Crane to open up the checkbook and give him a long contract. Tucker wants a lot of years and Crane won't go over 5. That's just his thing. I asked this source about the sour grapes involved and he said money talks. Which is true.
My takeaway is it's very unlikely but not entirely impossible either. Definitely not getting my hopes up.
Sounds like Crane needs to get over this 5 year hang up. 8 is the new 5.
Hard to argue that the strategy of keeping contracts around 5 years hasn't been effective... but for someone in their mid to late 20s - I don't think an 8-year deal is an albatross. Especially someone like Tucker with no injury history.
Now the 10-13 year deals are just insane. But there will always be some team willing to pay a player 30 mil plus in their 40s, and it always works out great!
Now the 10-13 year deals are just insane. But there will always be some team willing to pay a player 30 mil plus in their 40s, and it always works out great!
I'd offer Tucker the 10 year 300 MM deal.
He would be 37 when it ends
He would be 37 when it ends
Farmer1906 said:
Some perspective on Yordan.Yordan is the third-youngest guy in the lineup https://t.co/SlYcTRCUWR
— Tyler Stafford (@tylercstafford) July 22, 2023
I think that says more about the AAA roster than Yordan's early career success.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
tjack16 said:
I'd offer Tucker the 10 year 300 MM deal.
He would be 37 when it ends
I'd probably do that. Think Tucker would take it?
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
If it's something you trust and believe in, pay them to their mid 30s. That might be 2-3 years or 10 years.
Tucker is only 26 so if Crane is firm with a max deal of five years then Tucker would be in the middle of his prime years at the end of that deal. Wish Crane would go 8 years for Tuck.
Just thinking about TED signing a max deal with a team like NY or BOS makes me wanna throw up. Crane has to see how Atlanta has set themselves up for success the next decade with how many guys they've locked up.
Marvin said:tjack16 said:
I'd offer Tucker the 10 year 300 MM deal.
He would be 37 when it ends
I'd probably do that. Think Tucker would take it?
I don't think he would right away but it would be a good starting place
I think he would want the next two years of arbitration bought out plus 10 years.
Farmer1906 said:
If it's something you trust and believe in, pay them to their mid 30s. That might be 2-3 years or 10 years.
Agreed. And there may be some recency bias in play, but I'd certainly be happy with Tucker getting 10 years. But something tells me he wants 12-13.
Mid 30's feels reasonable. The Trea Turner and Xander Bogaerts deals seemed pretty stupid to me (they will be 41 when they are done) but what do I know
I don't see Crane ever going past 8. I also don't see Dana doing anything that impresses crane that much to give him the full reigns. Not enough to work with in the trade market.
I don't see how a player like Ohtani is even tradable. The amount of resources a potential trade partner would have to relinquish with no gaurantee they will be able to sign him after the seaon seems insurmountable.Wabs said:Really hope the Angels don't make a trade,Mathguy64 said:They are in no man's land. Not bad enough to have to get something for him and not good enough to compete.W said:
Angels (50-48) win again --- not trading Ohtani yet
I wonder if 8/270 would get it done.
If so, that would be a no-brainer.
If so, that would be a no-brainer.
I mean if you're tucker, I'd imagine 12 years would be great because that'll take you to age 38-39. That's basically job security until retirement and career earnings of close to $400 MM.
If you take a contract that only takes you to 34 or 36 years old, there's no guarantee you get another one after that.
If you take a contract that only takes you to 34 or 36 years old, there's no guarantee you get another one after that.
I think you need to go 350/10 to move the needle on Tucker. Ohtani is about to set a massive bar and if atucker waits out the next 2 years 350/10 will not be a crazy or unusual number for players like him.
Teams also want to manipulate the luxury tax. We're willing to pay you 350 M but we want to split it over 13 years, not 10.
Mathguy64 said:
I think you need to go 350/10 to move the needle on Tucker. Ohtani is about to set a massive bar and if atucker waits out the next 2 years 350/10 will not be a crazy or unusual number for players like him.
A lot can happen in two years between now and free agency
Mathguy64 said:
I think you need to go 350/10 to move the needle on Tucker. Ohtani is about to set a massive bar and if atucker waits out the next 2 years 350/10 will not be a crazy or unusual number for players like him.
Ohtani will set an unrealistic bar unfortunately due to him being a very high quality pitcher as well.
We should give this Alvarez kid a chance on the big league squad. I think he might be able to help us out.
SW-14 said:
We should give this Alvarez kid a chance on the big league squad. I think he might be able to help us out.
You would think there's a spot in the 8 or 9 hole right?
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