***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Winning 7 of 8 makes it hard for even this bunch to complain.
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It hasn't been officially announced but yeah it's going to be Blanco
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So Javier to the IL?
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https://instagr.am/p/CsmP4PiPyQB

Here's a topic or topics of discussion
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Mushinski was sent down I believe
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Another topic of discussion…

https://instagr.am/p/CtmOQ1dupOA

Does anyone else get annoyed how LA and NY hats get worn as fashion pieces
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Hmm...didn't initially see a hat.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Sure is quiet today fellas

I'm still in Belize but I'm sure when Dusty's lineup comes out it'll feed discussion.
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Let's play a game.

How many, if any, of the deals would you do? Take the rest of their contract (they get $10 per arbitration year bought out) plus $25-30 until age 38. If you don't sign them for this, they walk at the end of their deal.

Kyle Tucker (age 26, last year in 2025) - 12/320
Yordan Alvarez (26, 2028) - 12/313
Cristian Javier (26, 2028) - 12/259
Alex Bregman (29, 2024) - 9/251
Framber Valdez (29, 2025) - 9/195
Jose Altuve (33, 2024) - 5/129
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Yordan, Framber, Altuve.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Another topic of discussion…

https://instagr.am/p/CtmOQ1dupOA

Does anyone else get annoyed how LA and NY hats get worn as fashion pieces
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/americas/yankees-caps-brazil.html

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Matheus Gustavo arrived for his second day of work at a hat shop in Rio de Janeiro wearing a black New York Yankees cap. His new job, for the most part, was selling Yankees hats. On the displays around him, about three out of four caps promoted that baseball team in the Bronx.

Yet Mr. Gustavo had a confession. He had worn a Yankees hat for years, he said, "but I never knew the real reason for the NY."
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Just don't expect many Brazilians to understand what the hat means.

"It's American football? Or is it a brand?" said Carlos Henrique, 20, hawking Yankees caps off a metal rack he was carrying on Rio's Ipanema Beach. Either way, it was his best seller. "I just know it calls attention," he said. "And it looks good on everyone."

More than any other sports paraphernalia, the Yankees cap has become its very own fashion trend, unmoored from the sport or the team it represents. Lifted by starring roles in hip-hop videos, celebrity endorsements and collaborations with Gucci and Supreme, the hat has gone fully global, crossing borders to lands where mentions of Babe Ruth and Aaron Judge will elicit blank stares never mind trying to explain the "Evil Empire."
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Artur Regen oversees Brazil for New Era, Brazil's largest and, he said, only licensed Major League Baseball hat seller. "Ninety-eight percent of Brazilians don't know it's a baseball team," he said. "New York is cool and they want to be associated with it."

Officially licensed Yankees caps at a store in Rio.Credit...Dado Galdieri for The New York Times
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Farmer1906 said:

Let's play a game.

How many, if any, of the deals would you do? Take the rest of their contract (they get $10 per arbitration year bought out) plus $25-30 until age 38. If you don't sign them for this, they walk at the end of their deal.

Kyle Tucker (age 26, last year in 2025) - 12/320
Yordan Alvarez (26, 2028) - 12/313
Cristian Javier (26, 2028) - 12/259
Alex Bregman (29, 2024) - 9/251
Framber Valdez (29, 2028) - 9/195
Jose Altuve (33, 2024) - 5/129

Tucker, Yordan, Altuve.

Even though Tucker "reportedly" won't sign an extension with the Astros.
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He won't.
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texasaggie2015 said:

He won't.
Is Tucker under control through 2025 or 2026?
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texasaggie2015 said:

He won't.
He might if we're throwing around 300+ M. We know the Astros aren't offering that.
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Wabs said:

texasaggie2015 said:

He won't.
Is Tucker under control through 2025 or 2026?
We have him for 23, 24, & 25 for arbitration money.
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Do you think it matters at all that Dana Brown is here now, versus the regimes of Luhnow/Click? Or is it more than he would be soured on the organization in general
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I wouldn't give any of the pitchers a deal through age 38 season. I'd definitely do it for Yordan and probably would for Ted. I could go either way on Altuve/Bregman.
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texasaggie2015 said:

He won't.
Is there bad blood, or does he just plan on going to the highest bidder, and believes the Astros will not be the highest bidder?
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Faustus said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Another topic of discussion…

https://instagr.am/p/CtmOQ1dupOA

Does anyone else get annoyed how LA and NY hats get worn as fashion pieces
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/world/americas/yankees-caps-brazil.html

Quote:

Matheus Gustavo arrived for his second day of work at a hat shop in Rio de Janeiro wearing a black New York Yankees cap. His new job, for the most part, was selling Yankees hats. On the displays around him, about three out of four caps promoted that baseball team in the Bronx.

Yet Mr. Gustavo had a confession. He had worn a Yankees hat for years, he said, "but I never knew the real reason for the NY."
. . .
Just don't expect many Brazilians to understand what the hat means.

"It's American football? Or is it a brand?" said Carlos Henrique, 20, hawking Yankees caps off a metal rack he was carrying on Rio's Ipanema Beach. Either way, it was his best seller. "I just know it calls attention," he said. "And it looks good on everyone."

More than any other sports paraphernalia, the Yankees cap has become its very own fashion trend, unmoored from the sport or the team it represents. Lifted by starring roles in hip-hop videos, celebrity endorsements and collaborations with Gucci and Supreme, the hat has gone fully global, crossing borders to lands where mentions of Babe Ruth and Aaron Judge will elicit blank stares never mind trying to explain the "Evil Empire."
. . .
Artur Regen oversees Brazil for New Era, Brazil's largest and, he said, only licensed Major League Baseball hat seller. "Ninety-eight percent of Brazilians don't know it's a baseball team," he said. "New York is cool and they want to be associated with it."

Officially licensed Yankees caps at a store in Rio.Credit...Dado Galdieri for The New York Times
I know that none of them wear it to support the teams, but that's not the point. I don't like those two teams getting their brand out world wide no matter the reason
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I would do Tucker only.

We have Yordan & Javier until 2028 already. I think thru age 32 for Yordan is enough for both.

I really want to do Altuve, but that's a lot to sink into someone so old. I am torn here.

Its a no on Bregman & Framber.
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scrimp said:

texasaggie2015 said:

He won't.
Is there bad blood, or does he just plan on going to the highest bidder, and believes the Astros will not be the highest bidder?
It's a little bit of both. Some has to do with the way the Astros treated his brother. I have no details on what went down but I'm just passing along what I heard. There's some other things too that I don't know enough about to share because I would hate to give bad info.

Also, some has to do with the Astros very likely not matching the highest offer out there. Some has to do with the prospects that will be ready by then.

I've been told there's a "less than 1% chance" he comes back.

That said, things can change.. but that's where we're at as it stands right now.
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Farmer1906 said:


I really want to do Altuve, but that's a lot to sink into someone so old. I am torn here.

I would love to make Altuve a lifelong Astro, but this recent string of injuries is really making me think about it.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Farmer1906 said:


I really want to do Altuve, but that's a lot to sink into someone so old. I am torn here.

I would love to make Altuve a lifelong Astro, but this recent string of injuries is really making me think about it.


Seeing Altuve in a uniform that's not the Astros would be unfathomable. That absolutely must be an extension they make happen.
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Just depends on the cost. I would hate seeing him in another uniform, but if his health is a concern and we have guys waiting in the wing it's just something I'll have to deal with. It sucks but.. it's business.
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Altuve is the only exception I would make to letting emotion enter the negotiation process. He will go down as the greatest Astro to ever play the game and (in my opinion) unlikely to be matched in my lifetime when you factor everything into the equation.
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tjack16 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Farmer1906 said:


I really want to do Altuve, but that's a lot to sink into someone so old. I am torn here.

I would love to make Altuve a lifelong Astro, but this recent string of injuries is really making me think about it.


Seeing Altuve in a uniform that's not the Astros would be unfathomable. That absolutely must be an extension they make happen.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Just depends on the cost. I would hate seeing him in another uniform, but if his health is a concern and we have guys waiting in the week it's just something I'll have to deal with. It sucks but.. it's business.


IMO he still has about 4 good years left. And I don't think he would be all that "expensive" given his age.

4 years 80 MM or something along those lines would be well worth it IMO. That would take him through age 39 and I think if at least 2 of those years are productive then it's worth it.
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Which at the end of the day wasn't a big deal and was essentially erased from history.
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At the end of the day, I just want to win. If Altuve gives us the best chance when that time comes, let's roll.
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Altuve strikes me as a guy that wouldn't necessarily chase the most money, but I hope that doesn't mean the Astros try to really low ball him.
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Altuve is the heart and soul of the Astros franchise. No way he should ever wear another uniform.
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I think a deal with Tuve gets worked out this offseason.

I think 2-3 year deal with some vesting options for an additional 1-2 years.
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Is there a way to hide instagram and Twitter posts on the mobile app? Some of the pics of ladies don't auto-hide when they are from instagram. I like it when I have the option to look or not look so it doesn't make me look like a pervert in public when looking at this thread.
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Frok said:

Is there a way to hide instagram and Twitter posts on the mobile app? Some of the pics of ladies don't auto-hide when they are from instagram. I like it when I have the option to look or not look so it doesn't make me look like a pervert in public when looking at this thread.


It's not this thread that makes you look like a pervert in public.
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