***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Beau Holder
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They started that run under .500 and at the end of that run they lost three consecutive series to mid teams to continue hovering around .500, so I'm not sure it changes the point.
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I was just pointing out that the streak including the As isn't the only good streak they've had.

Regardless of what happened before and after that was a good run.
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That's fair, point taken. Was more saying that one streak is the only reason they're not still sitting right on .500 with the current body of work.

This lineup is not a division winner.
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And just to add to the misery with each loss, no TOFA and AOFA
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Mathguy64 said:

Abreu's SLG is now .257.

This can't be real.

I mean the rest of the team is swinging wet noodle level bats but having that at the 4 or 5 spot is criminal. It's not a slump. It's either a significant injury dating back to last year that he won't admit to or he's 40.

This may be the worst FA contract in a decade.
I'm leaning toward age.

Pujols at age 36...slugged .457 --- including 31 home runs

Yuli at age 36...the COVID year...slugged .384

Miguel Cabrera at age 36...slugged .398
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Abreu should not be this bad at age 36
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Well Abreu is really 40 so…..
Dies Irae
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It's easy to believe, Abreu's like 6'4", at age 13 he would have been man-sized most likely; he could definitely have passed for the 16-17 year olds who start at baseball camps.
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Dies Irae said:

It's easy to believe, Abreu's like 6'4", at age 13 he would have been man-sized most likely; he could definitely have passed for the 16-17 year olds who start at baseball camps.
wouldn't that make him younger?
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Oh I'm relatively convinced he's either 40 or he stopped using something in the last 1/3 of last season. I would bet he's 40 and nothing short of using the magic balls they threw to Albert last year is fixing this.

At some point Dusty needs to man up and manage the team and that means making the hard decision. And unfortunately that's not in his nature with veterans.
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CFTXAG10 said:

It is becoming more and more evident we will be needing some help via trade before the deadline
Yep. Jim, Jeff, and Dusty need to get out of the way and let Dana work.
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Is Cintron untouchable? Asking for a friend..
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Yankees fans when they can clearly see my nuts


TRM
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Username checks out.
Jet Black
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Brantley needs to come back and stay healthy.
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From what I've been hearing, that might be a bit optimistic unfortunately
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Like not coming back at all?
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Jet Black said:

Brantley needs to come back and stay healthy.


Good one

That ship has sailed
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Drew Gilbert….
BadAggie
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Milwaukee. Whatever. On to Oakland.
Harry Dunne
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Not surprisingly, Abreu has worst WAR in the majors.

He is on pace for a -4.05 WAR, which would be the worst in major league history.

He's obviously going to either improve or get benched and won't ever get to that mark and WAR is also a very imperfect measure...But just for perspective it can reasonably be said that he's playing as badly as the worst players that ever played.

And that is something.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/chris-davis-is-having-merely-one-of-the-worst-seasons-ever/

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Harry Dunne said:

Not surprisingly, Abreu has worst WAR in the majors.

He is on pace for a -4.05 WAR, which would be the worst in major league history.

He's obviously going to either improve or get benched and won't ever get to that mark and WAR is also a very imperfect measure...But just for perspective it can reasonably be said that he's playing as badly as the worst players that ever played.

And that is something.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/chris-davis-is-having-merely-one-of-the-worst-seasons-ever/


I made the Chris Davis comparison the other day. Not the company a player wants to keep.
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No one saw this coming

I probably wouldn't have agreed but I would've listened if you'd have said that he's gonna slip some and won't be as productive as his career numbers but anyone who tells you they thought he'd be this bad is straight up lying.

It's astonishing
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redline248 said:

Dies Irae said:

It's easy to believe, Abreu's like 6'4", at age 13 he would have been man-sized most likely; he could definitely have passed for the 16-17 year olds who start at baseball camps.
wouldn't that make him younger?


No because of the way Cubans perceive time.

Yes, yes it would. I got it backwards
Dies Irae
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Harry Dunne said:

Not surprisingly, Abreu has worst WAR in the majors.

He is on pace for a -4.05 WAR, which would be the worst in major league history.

He's obviously going to either improve or get benched and won't ever get to that mark and WAR is also a very imperfect measure...But just for perspective it can reasonably be said that he's playing as badly as the worst players that ever played.

And that is something.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/chris-davis-is-having-merely-one-of-the-worst-seasons-ever/




Correct me if I'm wrong, but a starter is generally supposed to have around a 2.0 WAR, no? So a random starter would net us 6 more wins a season just by himself? That's amazing
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Abreu is making any other recent Astro slump - Springer during 2017 playoffs until he got hot in the WS, Altuve during last year playoffs, Tucker last year with the batting gloves on and off - look like they just shook a day off compared to this never ending season long suckage. Give Abreu the Oakland series with their tomato can pitching staff to work something out - bat him 6,7, or 8. And if no power or consistency give him the next series off or make up a reason to put him in the 10-15 day DL, or let him rehab in Sugar Land, No one - other than Dusty and Bags - have confidence in him, including himself. It's painful to watch.
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Ag_07 said:

No one saw this coming

I probably wouldn't have agreed but I would've listened if you'd have said that he's gonna slip some and won't be as productive as his career numbers but anyone who tells you they thought he'd be this bad is straight up lying.

It's astonishing


Any chance MLB is supplementing his salary to tank on purpose?
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it sounds crazy...

but if the Astros are looking for a 1st baseman at the trade deadline...

they need to find a rental player from a non-contending team (i.e. low cost to acquire)

get the Marlins on line one...we have a match
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Big Al 1992 said:

Abreu is making any other recent Astro slump - Springer during 2017 playoffs until he got hot in the WS, Altuve during last year playoffs, Tucker last year with the batting gloves on and off - look like they just shook a day off compared to this never ending season long suckage. Give Abreu the Oakland series with their tomato can pitching staff to work something out - bat him 6,7, or 8. And if no power or consistency give him the next series off or make up a reason to put him in the 10-15 day DL, or let him rehab in Sugar Land, No one - other than Dusty and Bags - have confidence in him, including himself. It's painful to watch.
This is the true test of Dusty's stubbornness...will he move Abreu down to at LEAST 6th in the batting order on Friday night or will he continue to thumb his nose at Dana and all us "fan stuff idiots" and put him back in the cleanup spot.
Ags #1
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Cleanup no, 5th spot yes. Till the asb and then he will be forced to move him down or platoon him
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What a ****ty baseball day. Astros lost and Aggies blew a 3 run lead. In meetings all afternoon, which is usually good luck because I'm not able to watch.

Rant over, thanks for listening.
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Ag_07 said:

Jet Black said:

Brantley needs to come back and stay healthy.


Good one

That ship has sailed
Assuming he doesn't come back he'd be the best off-season signing by far amongst the three. Brantley hasn't played below replacement level baseball, his contract was for one year, he's much cheaper than the other two (not that it matters given we're well under the mid-market salary cap and it's an expiring contract), and Crane can be reimbursed for a cool 12 million.

The Brantley deal turned out to be not that bad of bet when looked at from the right angle.

Joking aside hopefully he gets to play this year.

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"Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
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